God Did Not Create The Universe, Says Hawking

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Sir this thread is not about religion, do not ***up again please.

Nice, ESP some more.

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Title says: God did not create the universe, says Hawking

bolded the religion part.
hurdur stanflame try again.

The entire thread is about religion.

I know you see every thread as an opportunity to feed your ego.

Did bill gates have a level 75 sam? I can imagine him having gimp gear like you.

I just wonder if he played on the failbox360 and if his locked up every Besieged.

God can mean anything, the creation of the universe etc. The topic at hand was not meant to turn into a religious debate, concerning islam, buddists, christians, and muslims, and what other religions there is.

Just stay on topic and stop goading with needless trash.

Obviously if the topic creator and you accept the meaning of the term "God", it would not have turned up to discuss if it created the universe or not, therefore what the meaning of god is. Things turn into a religious debate when you attack people in a thread who have beliefs in something else, that there is more to creation of the universe, that it was not only the big bang. Oh again it has nothing to do with religion as you see.

God(s) can mean anything, "God did not create the universe, says Hawking".

God isn't real, your argument is invalid.

By bolding God it raises the argument of theism vs. atheism not religion. Tired of people saying that if you believe in a God that your religious. The two are mutually exclusive.

Once you all get that these threads on ffxi ah start out well, then fall to ***because you humans sit there and attack people calling them stupid for being religious and having different views than you, then it the threads will not turn to ***.

This always happens in a conversation thanks to one side, you people really need to grow up.

God is real, I died for ten seconds once, saw a bunch of angels flying around with coke on plates, he is obviously Colombian, but real nonetheless.

Oshi- I completely forgot Stan was an immortal being of higher consciousness...

Idiot.

Protip: When trying to troll (horribly I might add) don't put Trollface as your avatar.

Not trolling :D

Try again

This whole argument IS about theism VS atheism man.

Durka dur mor ad hom argumentsss

To add something serious, nobody believes in heaven. You can see it clearly with how we all deal with death. If you believe in heaven, grief is an irrational emotion. I mean if you do believe in heaven, dying should be the best thing that ever happens to us.

Humans are complicated AND simple, making it so black and white doesn't really work.

Seems to work just fine.

You are sooooooo cute.

not.

Tell me why it doesn't work.

Lolwut? That's what I said.
You said

Ooookay.
You make your opening statement. OK now for your reasoning.


I am intrigued, how one deals with death determines the quality of an unverified belief. Ohhhhkay.
This is you assuming that humans are obligated to only have what.... rational emotions?

Okay so this was your explanation as to why "nobody believes in heaven"

You don't really prove anything.
You just verify the fact that humans can be/are irrational emotionally.
It's not that I don't agree with you about heaven, your explanation just isn't correct.

sooo theism isn't considered to be religion now?
i am confuse.

If you were to find out your friend got a dream job, say going to another galaxy, but you'd never be able to contact/see them again due to nature of the job. How would you feel? I'm sure you could be sad, or even happy because they're doing something that makes them happy. I would be willing to bet you wouldn't feel grief. Say after he/she takes off on said job, you find out the ship exploded, do your feelings change? I think they do. This would make no sense considering either way you'd never get to see/contact them again.

If you sincerely believe paradise waits in the afterlife, then you must by necessity think death is a good thing, and by contrast life is not.

I do believe reason and emotions are integrated. I believe the thought experiment shows the rationality of emotion.