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Almace is nearly the exact model as Burtgang :( its like the same as Amanomurakumo and Futsuno Mitama (full dyna and Absolute Virtue drop GKs)
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Almace is nearly the exact model as Burtgang :( its like the same as Amanomurakumo and Futsuno Mitama (full dyna and Absolute Virtue drop GKs)
except i bet almace will have more of a use than burtgang.
why does every new scythe get smaller and more puny looking. the color is cool but the size is dumb, i mean look at the friggen one handed sword lol
I have to reserve my skepticism at releasing a new mode of endgame at the end of a dying game. Was the effort really worth the potential return for SE?
As far as I can tell it's just endgame and no missions like the previous add-ons, so I think I'll hold off on them until I know fully what they're about.
As far as I can tell it's just endgame and no missions like the previous add-ons, so I think I'll hold off on them until I know fully what they're about.
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Burtgang is pretty damn sweet actually....
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Burtgang is pretty damn sweet actually....
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The lore behind the weapons on the Abyssea page reference Magian Moogles several times.
Very good chance its going to come from said Trials, probably a improvement of the "High DMG" upgrades (The PURE DAMAGE path with no augments other than DMG+).
Or the Magian weapons, regardless of path, will eventually all turn into those with their own seperate Augments/etc, basically same design, different path/augments. Like all the Elemental Upgrades.
Very good chance its going to come from said Trials, probably a improvement of the "High DMG" upgrades (The PURE DAMAGE path with no augments other than DMG+).
Or the Magian weapons, regardless of path, will eventually all turn into those with their own seperate Augments/etc, basically same design, different path/augments. Like all the Elemental Upgrades.
Why does the bow instantly make me think of this?
Also it looks freaking sweet and I want one.
Polearm reminds me of something from Esclaflowne
Also it looks freaking sweet and I want one.
Polearm reminds me of something from Esclaflowne
what beats Burtgang for straight tanking? i'm pretty curious (i'm no 75 pld....but those stats just scream "best in show" for straight up tanking)
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
what beats Burtgang for straight tanking? i'm pretty curious (i'm no 75 pld....but those stats just scream "best in show" for straight up tanking)
What is "straight up" tanking? You mean /war tanking with your face? B/c I'm curious what you are tanking in that manner that a Sam wouldn't be doing a better job at.
Are you /nin and engaged? Excal kills it, even Joy does.
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
what beats Burtgang for straight tanking? i'm pretty curious (i'm no 75 pld....but those stats just scream "best in show" for straight up tanking)
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
what beats Burtgang for straight tanking? i'm pretty curious (i'm no 75 pld....but those stats just scream "best in show" for straight up tanking)
I have to agree. I'm no PLD but if I had a Burtgang and an Aegis I'd feel pretty secure even walking up to Fafnir and insinuating that I fornicated with his mother.
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by straight tanking i meant engaged full time whether that be /war or /nin ...and like i said, i'm no pld..i wouldn't think ANY OaT sword would flat out annihilate its usage...forgive me peeps lol don't jump down my throat TOO quickly
Can I ask a question just out of pure curiosity as I have no idea about the end game ins and outs of pld... The Burtgang seems to have nice stats, but everyone trash talks it. I'm wondering why. I'm not calling anyone up, I'm just really curious as to why it's so bad lol
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
by straight tanking i meant engaged full time whether that be /war or /nin ...and like i said, i'm no pld..i wouldn't think ANY OaT sword would flat out annihilate its usage...forgive me peeps lol don't jump down my throat TOO quickly
Again, we live in a world where a PLD will take Haubergeon+1 over Valhalla Breastplate, I can't see a single reason why Burtgang would win out for the majority over any OAT weapon.
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
by straight tanking i meant engaged full time whether that be /war or /nin ...and like i said, i'm no pld..i wouldn't think ANY OaT sword would flat out annihilate its usage...forgive me peeps lol don't jump down my throat TOO quickly
OAT swords are going to kill it simply b/c of attoment spam.
The enm/def boosts of Burtgang simply aren't going to keep up with the enm gained from the extra dmg of attoment.
right right..i forgot about atonement....my bad...btw how the *** are you getting 20s Ni AND ichi recasts on pld? lol anything short of whm/rdm haste + brd + god knows what else lol....
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
right right..i forgot about atonement....my bad...btw how the *** are you getting 20s Ni AND ichi recasts on pld? lol anything short of whm/rdm haste brd god knows what else lol....
you can get 50% haste on pld? thats some pretty serious ***there..i didn't even know you could hit the haste cap on pld in gear..
though i suppose its not THAT hard with dusk/homam pieces...still to hit 50% you have to have Brd + whm/rdm hasting (maybe even a brd with capped skill merits and capped skill+ gear idk exact cap on marches)....anyways i'm done derailing main thread...yes new Abyssea stuff looks awesome..I'm definitely gonna do my best to get that Masamune :)
though i suppose its not THAT hard with dusk/homam pieces...still to hit 50% you have to have Brd + whm/rdm hasting (maybe even a brd with capped skill merits and capped skill+ gear idk exact cap on marches)....anyways i'm done derailing main thread...yes new Abyssea stuff looks awesome..I'm definitely gonna do my best to get that Masamune :)
not talking about 50% haste in just gear specifically, but do remember pld gets access to some fast cast equip also. (ACP body, loqacious earring, homam panties)
stack all that + haste gear(21% haste) + haste spell(15% haste) + single march = 23second flash/ utsu ni recast lol.
but yea.. good paladins generally can keep shadows up, and the only time they DO take dmg is generally TP moves from said mob, which alot are magic based (psy-10% dmg wont do nothing there), then theres the enmity+10, which is very nice at first. but once a paladin caps enmity it pretty much stays at cap unless they literally just stand there and take damage lol. (exaggeration just a tad) but yea, you get the point lol.
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can i has masamune?
stack all that + haste gear(21% haste) + haste spell(15% haste) + single march = 23second flash/ utsu ni recast lol.
but yea.. good paladins generally can keep shadows up, and the only time they DO take dmg is generally TP moves from said mob, which alot are magic based (psy-10% dmg wont do nothing there), then theres the enmity+10, which is very nice at first. but once a paladin caps enmity it pretty much stays at cap unless they literally just stand there and take damage lol. (exaggeration just a tad) but yea, you get the point lol.
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can i has masamune?
Is the Burtgang worth using if you're /war?
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Is the Burtgang worth using if you're /war?
I theorize that the "Empyreal Weapons" will "Awaken" once people take their completed (Max Dmg making the most sense) Magian Weapon into Abyssea.
From there I think the player will be able to do a "2nd Tier" of upgrades on the Awakened Max Dmg weapon and add a elemental path bonus' to it.
I also think that SE will allow a Elemental Path weapon's "2nd Tier" to be the Max Dmg path.
So they will all lead to the same potential.
Max Dmg + Elemental Bonus
or Occ.Att.Twice + Elemental Bonus
Just how I feel the system would work.
Could be completely wrong:p
From there I think the player will be able to do a "2nd Tier" of upgrades on the Awakened Max Dmg weapon and add a elemental path bonus' to it.
I also think that SE will allow a Elemental Path weapon's "2nd Tier" to be the Max Dmg path.
So they will all lead to the same potential.
Max Dmg + Elemental Bonus
or Occ.Att.Twice + Elemental Bonus
Just how I feel the system would work.
Could be completely wrong:p
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Is the Burtgang worth using if you're /war?
Ah, fair enough. I've been trying to explain to a friend that the Burtgang is generally seen as a lol weapon, but seeing as I don't know anything about pld I can't really explain further than that. I was meaning to make a topic asking why it was so lol.
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Is the Burtgang worth using if you're /war?
yes, even /rdm its a great sword, but hauteclaire is far easier to get, and does almost about the same thing lol.
in the case of using a terror build, as stated above earth staff does -20phys dmg. so what it comes down to, are you willing to spend 80m+ and 1yr+ of dedication to get a sword that does about the same job as a hauteclaire lol. im not saying the sword is bad by all means, its just not worth the effect to get compared to whats already out there. (ie; spend 80m on excalibur)
Fairy.Ghaleon said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Is the Burtgang worth using if you're /war?
yes, even /rdm its a great sword, but hauteclaire is far easier to get, and does almost about the same thing lol.
in the case of using a terror build, as stated above earth staff does -20phys dmg. so what it comes down to, are you willing to spend 80m and 1yr of dedication to get a sword that does about the same job as a hauteclaire lol. im not saying the sword is bad by all means, its just not worth the effect to get compared to whats already out there. (ie; spend 80m on excalibur)
I've heard the Hauteclaire is incredibly situational too (but I assume that's due to /nin being superior in nearly all situations)
Is the Excalibur a good sword then? Would you use it over OAT weps?
Excal > OAT weps cause of it's additional effect.
Pld isn't even the optimal tank in most situations today. Anything that is strong enough to warrant using hauct or Burt, rdm is going to be a better tank.
Anything you generally go for your attonement spam, a DD will be a better tank (will take more dmg but not to the point where the tanking can't be done, and will deal a lot more dmg than the pld so helps the fight move along faster)
Pld isn't even the optimal tank in most situations today. Anything that is strong enough to warrant using hauct or Burt, rdm is going to be a better tank.
Anything you generally go for your attonement spam, a DD will be a better tank (will take more dmg but not to the point where the tanking can't be done, and will deal a lot more dmg than the pld so helps the fight move along faster)
Fairy.Ghaleon said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Is the Burtgang worth using if you're /war?
yes, even /rdm its a great sword, but hauteclaire is far easier to get, and does almost about the same thing lol.
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Excal > OAT weps cause of it's additional effect.
Pld isn't even the optimal tank in most situations today. Anything that is strong enough to warrant using hauct or Burt, rdm is going to be a better tank.
Anything you generally go for your attonement spam, a DD will be a better tank (will take more dmg but not to the point where the tanking can't be done, and will deal a lot more dmg than the pld so helps the fight move along faster)
Pld isn't even the optimal tank in most situations today. Anything that is strong enough to warrant using hauct or Burt, rdm is going to be a better tank.
Anything you generally go for your attonement spam, a DD will be a better tank (will take more dmg but not to the point where the tanking can't be done, and will deal a lot more dmg than the pld so helps the fight move along faster)
pretty much this ^,
now to get the thread back on track...
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