8% Movement Speed Is It Worth It?

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 Bismarck.Masterblaster
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By Bismarck.Masterblaster 2009-11-30 09:57:59  
Cerberus.Mindi said:
btw @ Stanflame:

CC = Crimson Cruises.......? Did you realized by now that neither BLM nor BRD can wear those...?

BRD has NO Movemntspeed gear until now
BLM has Herald Gaiters which are 13-18M

I will wait for mog bonanza tyvm lol.
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By Garuda.Hypnotizd 2009-11-30 09:58:51  
If I were personally going to get these legs for BLM I'd get the 8% movement and Physical Damage Taken and use these only for idle.
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By Kujata.Argettio 2009-11-30 10:00:08  
@ Fyyvoaa

What better things?

* Lower DoT on your Nukes?
* The occasional Epeen shot?
* A big drop in your dINT making your nukes against high INT mobs less accurate?

I am not seeing it.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-11-30 10:01:23  
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Gilgamesh.Alyria said:
Stan, that's enough.

he started it I have to shove it in know it all's face's.

it's the same with other gear... I know for a fact evasion skill is better than evasion on gear. It just hurts my head when people act like they know ***and act like their word is LAW.

You know he does not act like that in real life he probably would get punched in the face. Probably belittled in real life so he has to act put himself above other's online since it is the only place it can. I know they type ^^.

Anyway I saw his post so I posted. I will just ignore this loser. I listened to what you said anyway.


I understand you are correct he can get it. I was just saying it looks to be a waste.
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2009-11-30 10:01:50  
@Fyyvoaa hey thats out of line its very offensive to less fortunate people like stanflame hes overcome alot to learn to use the interweb.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-11-30 10:02:59  
Kujata.Argettio said:
@ Fyyvoaa

What better things?

* Lower DoT on your Nukes?
* The occasional Epeen shot?
* A big drop in your dINT making your nukes against high INT mobs less accurate?

I am not seeing it.

what would you rather have c.c's? for your rdm or a dumbed down fake. when you can make those legs useful for other jobs or dd jobs?
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By Bahamut.Fyyvoaa 2009-11-30 10:03:09  
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@Fyyvoaa hey thats out of line its very offensive to less fortunate people like stanflame hes overcome alot to learn to use the interweb.


LOL


Are you sure it's not the other way around?
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By Bahamut.Fyyvoaa 2009-11-30 10:04:02  
Kujata.Argettio said:
@ Fyyvoaa

What better things?

* Lower DoT on your Nukes?
* The occasional Epeen shot?
* A big drop in your dINT making your nukes against high INT mobs less accurate?

I am not seeing it.


I said I would rather something over the Movement speed.


If you need movement speed to be a good blm, you're pretty shitty.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-11-30 10:04:40  
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@Fyyvoaa hey thats out of line its very offensive to less fortunate people like stanflame hes overcome alot to learn to use the interweb.


He made that comment to everyone not just me. You are the one with the picture with the retard running a special Olympic race.

Oh btw mod said to stop so cool off?

No more, are you deaf?
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2009-11-30 10:04:48  
Other way around? Yea because I dont like magic crit damge up I must be dumb what was i thinking!
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2009-11-30 10:06:05  
@Fyyvoaa you are a pretty closminded nitwitt if you cant see that movement speed opens up new soloing options for blm.
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By Kujata.Argettio 2009-11-30 10:06:12  
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Kujata.Argettio said:
@ Fyyvoaa

What better things?

* Lower DoT on your Nukes?
* The occasional Epeen shot?
* A big drop in your dINT making your nukes against high INT mobs less accurate?

I am not seeing it.

what would you rather have c.c's? for your rdm or a dumbed down fake. when you can make those legs useful for other jobs or dd jobs?

A) The choice is not CC or Dragon pant with movement speed, the choice is Dragon pants with movement speed or dragon pants with bad nuking stats.
B) The debate is about BRD and BLM, not RDM, not any DD, nothing other than BRD or BLM.
C) The dragon pants with nuking stats are around the same or worse than AH pants (this is an undeniable fact, get over it)

And at Fyyvoaa, I don't need movement speed to be a good BLM, I need it to be able to do things that are not possible without the movement speed.
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By Garuda.Hypnotizd 2009-11-30 10:06:45  
Magic crit is way overrated. Get Mahtma slops and enjoy your consistant and less resisted +8 INT nukes.
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By Bahamut.Fyyvoaa 2009-11-30 10:06:49  
Meh, as I said, you guys do whatever you desire, if you want to get the movement speed, go the *** right ahead, I don't care.

If you think that is going to make you better, go right ahead and think that.

I will do what I want, you will do what you want, simple as that.



(Edit: Bolded so you idiots will take the time to read it instead of making hollow threats that make you look stupid)
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-11-30 10:06:57  
When did I say you needed to like it? those legs can be used for better than 8% speed either get herme's sandles for monk or c.c's. There is better than 8% speed.

But it is a choice as was put by FYY.
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By Lakshmi.Zaps 2009-11-30 10:08:46  
as far as ive heard, bard doesnt really et anything usefull from the legs, and the pants are sub-par for nuking. He's probably better off getting movement speed and something else on them. They could easily make some decent solo(blm)/bard pulling pants.

also:


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By Bismarck.Masterblaster 2009-11-30 10:09:15  
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Kujata.Argettio said:
@ Fyyvoaa

What better things?

* Lower DoT on your Nukes?
* The occasional Epeen shot?
* A big drop in your dINT making your nukes against high INT mobs less accurate?

I am not seeing it.

what would you rather have c.c's? for your rdm or a dumbed down fake. when you can make those legs useful for other jobs or dd jobs?

Hence BLM cannot "Equip" CCs. Good for RDM yes if you manage to get the abjuration but if you cant for the time being this is an alternative.
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2009-11-30 10:09:16  
THIS IS ABOUT BLM AND BRD THEY CANT WEAR CRSIMSON OR HERALDS GAITERS CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS WHEN THEY ARE BIGGER?
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By Bahamut.Nightcrew 2009-11-30 10:09:28  
no one has said you need movement speed to be a good Blm, just that in some situations, it can help. if we RELLY want to get down to it, Plds/Rdms dont NEED CCs, Drks dont need Kclubs, DDs dont need haste gear... i can go on really..
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By Kujata.Argettio 2009-11-30 10:09:32  
BRD and BLM!!!!!

CC and Sandles do not apply here!

The only other movement speed option is Gaiters (13-20mil).
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-11-30 10:10:32  
If you completely ignore math in this game as a mage you're fail. The 10% crit damage bonus, as said earlier makes a magic crit 20MAB instead of 10MAB, so if your nuke doesn't crit, this does nothing for you. The only way to even GET a crit is by using witch sash, wise strap or MKD head? Even with all 3 of these items you're up to 15% crit hit rate, meaning 1.5 out of 10 nukes you'll get a bit of extra damage. If you are using these pants with 10% crit damage on them, that works out at an average of 3% extra damage over time (ignoring any wasted crit nukes that kill a mob when a non-crit would have killed it anyway). However, ignoring bugard+1 > wise strap, and looking solely at MKD head, if you chose INT+4 MAB+2 instead of INT+4 crit hit rate +10%, you would be looking at an average increase of 2% over time.

Not as high as 3%, but this is a constant increase, meaning you can actually depend on that damage rather than hoping for a m.crit. It also means you can put an actual decent pair of pants (morrigan's/mahatma/tatsumaki with MAB/macc) to allow overall better damage and/or performance.

That's just the pure damage side of things though, there are mobs in this game that simply CANNOT be soloed by blm without enhanced movement speed. In case you haven't noticed, SE just released ~200 new NM's that are ALL immune to grav/bind/sleep, a LOT of those are impossible, or just stupidly hard to solo without movement speed.
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By Bahamut.Fyyvoaa 2009-11-30 10:10:35  

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Bismarck.Maxse said:
THIS IS ABOUT BLM AND BRD THEY CANT WEAR CRSIMSON OR HERALDS GAITERS CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS WHEN THEY ARE BIGGER?


Meh, as I said, you guys do whatever you desire, if you want to get the movement speed, go the *** right ahead, I don't care.

If you think that is going to make you better, go right ahead and think that.

I will do what I want, you will do what you want, simple as that.



I will say this again since some people can't read.
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By Kujata.Daus 2009-11-30 10:11:37  
I plan on getting em. I coulda used them on my smn these past few forever. It'd be nice to carby kite and run out of range slightly faster! They'd be great in nyzul to for keeping up with the speedy melees. As for blm, if you have better gear or similar gear already then why not get free movement speed? I know I don't have money for gaiters and I have no other job that can benefit from the other pants.
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By Kujata.Argettio 2009-11-30 10:11:55  
If you don't care what we do, why are you baiting us with lines like:

"If you need movement speed to be a good blm, you're pretty shitty."

If you don't care, leave the thread.
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2009-11-30 10:12:15  
@fyyyvvoa i was talking to stan not you
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By Bahamut.Fyyvoaa 2009-11-30 10:12:49  
Kujata.Argettio said:
If you don't care what we do, why are you baiting us with lines like:

"If you need movement speed to be a good blm, you're pretty shitty."

If you don't care, leave the thread.


It's called an opinion, the OP asked for it, I supplied.

If you don't like it, TOUGH ***.
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By Bismarck.Masterblaster 2009-11-30 10:13:31  
Q.Q?
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By Bahamut.Fyyvoaa 2009-11-30 10:14:02  
Bismarck.Maxse said:
@fyyyvvoa i was talking to stan not you


I know, I just wanted to make my point clear in case it got buried underneath all the sugar coated *** everyone is spouting.



Anyways, you guys can argue it out, I really don't care, I'm out.
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By Lakshmi.Zaps 2009-11-30 10:14:11  
Bahamut.Fyyvoaa said:
Kujata.Argettio said:
If you don't care what we do, why are you baiting us with lines like:

"If you need movement speed to be a good blm, you're pretty shitty."

If you don't care, leave the thread.


It's called an opinion, the OP asked for it, I supplied.

If you don't like it, TOUGH ***.

pretty sure everyone agreed with you or understood, stans just dumb.
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2009-11-30 10:14:20  
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It's called an opinion, the OP asked for it, I supplied.

If you don't like it, TOUGH ***.


Anyone that ever said opinions cant be wrong lost the arguement. Your opinions suck lol.
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