Coronavirus Death Toll Estimation USA

Who cares about NY and Cali? The cases in Florida ARE skyrocketing, their new cases per day is outrageous, I think they hit 10k like 4 days in a row before the weekend. The cases in Texas and Arizona are skyrocketing as well. Chanti has yet to post anything remotely close to "facts I don't like." Continue with the accurate updates Chanti.

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If there's enough to talk about, go for it. The rule of thumb is not to have multiples on the same topic. Four concurrent might be a bit much if it's the same 8 people in it all the time, but if there's things y'all want to talk about with that, have at it.

From the source Prong posted. This is proof, along with the lack of mention that the state patrol closed the highway. It was an illegal closure, it was not sanctioned by the city nor the state.


Where do you see that? It certainly wasn't from the source.

I will admit that it was the 19th day (at the time) for highway protests, but that still doesn't mean that it was a legal closure.

Why else do you think the guy wasn't charged for vehicular manslaughter, and instead charged with 2 counts of vehicular assault?

Edit: Rooks sucks!

A) Your opinion doesn't mean it's fact.
B) When there are more testing, you will find more cases. When testing is done at a growing rate, the number of cases rises. Let me ask you this then: Has the number of deaths increased proportionally to the rise of cases? If it hasn't, why is that the case? There has been nothing to cause the rate of deaths to be reduced, since there is no cure nor vaccine made.
C) Opinion pieces are not news reports. You like to call me out on this, but you apparently cannot tell the difference between the two anymore. I mean, I don't blame you since almost all "news" reports you see from liberal media are nothing BUT opinion pieces....
D) Get your head out of the clouds man!

I didn't post facts I don't like. Just an observation.

Where did I see it? Literally every single article that has reported on it, which I will not post for you, Hideka, or Prong. You guys have been making ***up from the start on this while posting no sources for any of your wild claims when a basic google search has easily debunked everything you all have said. Every article says the same thing, all you have to do is go read them on your own.

None of Chanti's links have been opinion pieces, so there goes that theory. They are nothing like your blogs.

The cases are skyrocketing in the South, the idiot Abbott said yesterday the hospitalizations are from cases in late May and early June, which is scary considering Texas is in a way worse situation now. If 10% of the cases require a hospital visit, we are talking about adding 500+ people per day a month from now.

The Surgeon General said a few days ago that deaths lag about two weeks behind new case counts, so don't try to run to the death rate to downplay the current crisis.

I present to the Jury of FFXIAH P&R posters the following evidence to prove of Vic's status of "Full of ***"

Evidence A

Clearly Vic is lying out of his *** when he stated that "You guys have been making ***up from the start on this while posting no sources..." when, by extension, this topic would have never been brought up it it wasn't for Prong posting an article about this very subject.

I present to the Jury of FFXIAH P&R posters the following evidence to prove of Vic's status of "Full of ***"

Evidence B

Clearly Vic has no clue what an opinion piece is, but hey, his sources he never posts or his "facts" he never quotes come from opinion pieces themselves, so who can blame him?

So, the very first sentence of Prongs article says the highway was closed. So, remember when I said you guys were making ***up from the start? Where exactly did you get the thought that the highway was open?

Illegally closed doesn't mean it's legally closed.

Hell, that sentence contradicted itself. I thought you understood basic logic, but you are from Austin, so....

Also, if it was legally closed, wouldn't there be cop cars stopping people from entering the highway?

And if it was legally closed, wouldn't the guy be charged for vehicular manslaughter instead of vehicular assault? Or even charged for reckless driving, failure to observe police direction, or any of the other dozens of violations he would have been charged for for bypassing a closed freeway?

I mean, use some common sense man!

Ok so now you are literally making up scenarios to fit your narrative and wow is it not working. The highway was closed by the cops for over an hour. Secondly, he was booked on two counts of vehicular assault, the DA has said to expect formal charges tomorrow. I'm expecting one count of vehicular manslaughter for the girl that died, and one count of vehicular assault for the victim that lived. Again, basic google searches would fill in these gaps in your narrative.

Prove it. And I'll help you out.

There would be an official statement from the police office that states that the section of highway where the accident occurred was closed. It is required by law for both legal and liability purposes. Word-of-mouth does not fly. And official statements come straight from the police precinct and/or DOT. Hell, do you want me to hold your hand and help you research it too? Because, I'll go one further and give you the tools for your research.

But I know, we all know, you will not do it. You will continue to say "no u!" and pretend you won an argument when you are clearly wrong...again!Good, post it if it occurs.

I already said I wasn't doing your work for you. You guys have been making ***up from the start, hell, you posted the article that says the highway was closed but have made up a *** narrative to try to make a case it was open. You literally debunked your own post.

I'm not "pretending" anything, you are just being an idiot. We know the highway was closed by the cops for over an hour and there were no other cars on the highway, there was no traffic. You were clearly making that up and its been very amusing to watch you try to spin your way out of it. Hasn't worked at all.

So, all I see from Vic is "no u!" Which, honestly, all he ever replies with when he is called out for his ***.

I could say that I-35 was closed from 8 A.M. to 5 P.M. today in Austin to protest Vic living in Austin, but that doesn't mean it happened or is true.

There is no journalistic integrity anymore, half of the time they make ***up due to laziness and the expectation for people to not check their work. Guess what? That's not going to fly when there's an easily verifiable way to see if the highway was closed at the time of the incident. And guess what?

It was not closed by state highway at the time of the incident.

So, are you going to believe word-of-mouth, or the official record? Because it looks like you are going to believe word-of-mouth.

Seattle times, there own news paper. Pay walled. You can pay it to verify.

You own beloved FOXNEWS. https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-protester-hit-car-highway-dies

This is whats so *** stupid with you people. It's right god damn there. You have google just like everyone else. But you insist on this *** just to argue.

I also see that you skimmed over the following:



Sounds like it was sanctioned, huh? Like I stated before, illegally closed doesn't mean legal closed, no matter how much you wish it.

Are...you talking about yourself?

Also, Seattle Times article wasn't under a paywall.

Shows how much you bother with your own sources.

Mine IS paywalled.

You clipped that first quote out of date.
That quote was AFTER the people were hit.

Still doesn't prove that it was legally closed at the time of the incident.

Also, as your sources say, if officers closed it, but how come they didn't physically close it? It's not that hard to stop incoming traffic, all it takes is 2 police cruisers to direct traffic off the interstate, and 2 police cruisers to stop traffic from coming on the interstate from the access ramp. Are you telling me that Seattle and Washington State is so underfunded on police cruisers that they didn't have 4 to close down this highway?

That is because it wasn't closed, as the official website stated at the time of the incident.

Posting the statement made almost 2 weeks prior to the incident doesn't mean it happened.

It's like you don't even think about things at all, and are trying to prove your point from random quotes and statements.

See Eiryl, this is why I didn't bother. He is going to make up whatever narrative possible to try to spin his way out of being completely wrong. Never waste time sourcing anything when they ask you to, its just them refusing to go to the effort.

The facts haven't changed, the highway was closed by the cops for over an hour, there was no traffic, the guy ran a roadblock and mowed down a crowd. These facts are never going to change.

This is the only thing in your post that is correct. The facts haven't changed.

Posting a statement doesn't prove that the highway was legally closed at the time. Nor is ignoring what the Washington State DOT website stated at the time of the accident, the highway was not closed to traffic, which means that police did not close the highway to traffic, which goes against your narrative.

Then again, I fully expect both of you to hightail it out of this conversation, since sources and logic rendered your opinions useless.

So, bye Felicia.

Apparently there were state barricades. https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/wsp-protesters-will-not-be-allowed-enter-i-5/WDU7TV7W4FHJPOBFGU7QRVCODI/

Uh no we are staying right here, comfortably knowing that the highway was closed for over an hour before one car ran a blockade and mowed down the protesters. There was no other traffic.