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 Shiva.Viciousss
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-04-12 09:55:59  
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Round 2!

FIGHT!

wait, no
MORTAL KOMBAT!!
lol, kidding.

So, a while back, about three and a half months ago, Ammon Bundy and his buddies got it into their heads they were going to seize a federally managed bird sanctuary.
As we all know now, things quickly went south for them.

One of their number, namely LaVoy Finicum, got shot and killed by Oregon State Police, while the rest were arrested. Heck, even Cliven Bundy stupidly flew out to Oregon to support his son and in doing so, left the relative safety of his "ranch" compound and armed guards, allowing the FBI to finally apprehend him so the feds can try him for his 2014 stand-off against Bureau of Land Management officers who had been sent by the courts to impound his cattle herd.

As it turns out, things have gone from bad to worse for Bundy's supporters now. Some of them began phoning in and posting social media death threats to federal officials and agents, meaning the FBI's started tracing the calls and messages back to their sources, and the feds are saying they still aren't yet done making arrests in this matter. Meanwhile, the main judge in the trials against the Bundy Brigade (as I call these morons now), has ruled that not a single one of them can be allowed out of prison. They all await trial without bond.

What's everyone else's take on this?

They are all going away for a long time, they picked a fight with the FBI and they lost big. Poor representation of freedom fighters, did harm to local communities, didn't help anyone.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-04-12 10:09:22  
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No reason to bodyslam a 12 year old girl that weighs 40 pounds, cop deserved to be fired.
Just this.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-04-12 10:11:11  
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No reason to bodyslam a 12 year old girl that weighs 40 pounds, cop deserved to be fired.
That video was edited to only show the bodyslam.

It's like passing judgement when you only heard part of the story.
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-04-12 10:19:05  
did she assault the officer?
 
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By Altimaomega 2016-04-12 10:46:10  
Oh look, New RP&R.

/looks around..

Yup, same people fighting about the same things using the same arguments.
 
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By Grumpy Cat 2016-04-12 10:54:10  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Drama Torama said: »
Ackeron said: »
Round 2!

FIGHT!

wait, no
Well all regular posters here kinda have their own special move..

Pleebo: grabs the attention of all the conservatives in the room allowing other liberals to post whathever they want freely.
Ravael: levels all arguments from all sides to the most moderate denominator making them all ineffective.
Sparthosky: confuses enemies with excessive sarcasm.
KN: stalls arguments by asking for citations of everything, even of personal opinions, sometimes even his own!
Zahrah: regrets everything.
Saevel: the soviets! THE SOVIETS!!
Spicy: self-destructs to take out an opponent too.
Jet: forces everyone to focus on semantics causing the debate to be forgotten entirely.
Chanti: posts long stories that no one bothers to read, but everyone bothers to comment.
Amandarius: uses the lowest quality bait he can think of hoping nobody notices.
Ramyrez: digressions that cause all points to be lost.
Altima: gives everyone a collective headache.

I'm sorry I didn't include everyone. But this is your time to shine and to show a special move of your own!

Grumpy: Randomly agrees and then disagrees with someone in the same post about a topic he doesn't really care about, then shares a kinda gross bathroom related story.
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By Grumpy Cat 2016-04-12 10:58:04  
Also about the girl bodyslam thing. I thought I made this clear in the other thread, but I will explain it again.

You can tell the officer was attempting a belly-to-back suplex. The young girl missed her spot and botched the move. Normally she would push off with her feet, allowing the momentum to carry her over the officer's head where she would be able to land on the top portion of her back, instead of her face.

If she can't get her act together she is NEVER going to be a contender for the Diva's Championship.
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By Ackeron 2016-04-12 11:01:14  
You guys didn't even make it past the first page w/o a report >_>

Was tempted to actually enforce it since I was excluded from the list. Although I don't really come in here much to have a thing, except maybe coming in here to rain on your parades.

Anyhow, it's just a small joke stop crying.
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-04-12 11:06:26  
there's a river of tears, I'm sure.
 
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-04-12 11:12:01  
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
there's a river of tears, I'm sure.

From a police officer in a unisex stall too I am sure.


Took the saltiness' to a whole 'notha level.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-04-12 11:15:43  
Oh deer. Not even some humour that contains cross-partisan and self irony?

Lighten up cupcakes, life's not that serious.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-04-12 11:31:29  
Ackeron said: »
You guys didn't even make it past the first page w/o a report >_>

Was tempted to actually enforce it since I was excluded from the list. Although I don't really come in here much to have a thing, except maybe coming in here to rain on your parades.

Anyhow, it's just a small joke stop crying.
You guys should start announcing the reports and addressing them in the thread instead of allowing them to remain anonymous!
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-04-12 11:32:28  
public shaming is a good thing. I'm with the mennonite.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2016-04-12 11:35:48  
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public shaming is a good thing. I'm with the mennonite.

I bet the mod team would deal with a helluva lot less reports.
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By Jetackuu 2016-04-12 11:43:36  
Siren.Mosin said: »
did she assault the officer?

Haven't seen any accounts of this. But like I said if somebody has a link to more than the basic information, basic clip then please share it.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-04-12 11:44:51  
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
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public shaming is a good thing. I'm with the mennonite.

I bet the mod team would deal with a helluva lot less reports.

One would think but it would probably embolden the chronic reporters. Sock accounts associated to sock emails would rise as a way of circumnavigation unless of course they implement a method of tracing the connected up when the button is pressed. It's already present in some respects I.e the ip logs that show the device address everytime someone logs onto the site in their account profile.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-04-12 11:48:18  
Anyone who thinks an appropriate response from an adult dealing with a preteen is to bodyslam them has some serious issues...
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-04-12 11:51:49  
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
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public shaming is a good thing. I'm with the mennonite.

I bet the mod team would deal with a helluva lot less reports.

One would think but it would probably embolden the chronic reporters. Sock accounts associated to sock emails would rise as a way of circumnavigation unless of course they implement a method of tracing the connected up when the button is pressed. It's already present in some respects I.e the ip logs that show the device address everytime someone logs onto the site in their account profile.
Would people really waste so much time just to make a secret report?
Lol, I have no problem with being open about the ones I make, I don't abuse it. Hell, sometimes I even outright tell them I'm doing it so they know it was me and not some random passerby.

Whatevs anyway.
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By Jetackuu 2016-04-12 11:54:27  
Candlejack said: »
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did she assault the officer?

Haven't seen any accounts of this. But like I said if somebody has a link to more than the basic information, basic clip then please share it.
Personally, I feel that the cop, as a grown man, was in the wrong regardless of what the girl did. Excessive force is excessive force.
Then we need to take into account the following:
White cop, black teenager angle. He should've also been more aware of how his actions would be dissected and gone through afterwards.

I thought she was Hispanic, but either way.

Personally I don't find the need for any school official (yes a resource officer is a school official) to touch a student unless they're being physical already, and there's no current evidence of that. That being said, this was a completely disproportionate response, entirely.
 
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