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A question for the religious.
 Bahamut.Jetackuu
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-03-14 01:00:38
Cerberus.Vaness said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Vaness said: Fenrir.Skarwind said: I do have a question though for you die hard religious people.
This is more of a vent for me too so I apologize.
Say everything in your life goes wrong, how can you still have such faith in religion? How do you feel when prayers go un-answered and things just get worse.
For example, having to deal with this huge list of things is overwhelming.
In the past 7 months.
-Having to see my fiance falsely diagnosed with asthma and sent home from navy Basic training 6 weeks in. (it's only 8 weeks long.. stupid cold D:)
-Drunk Cousin steals Grandmother's van and smashes it up drunk.
-Drunk Cousin steals grandmothers dog because she pressed charges.
-A close family friend passes away from cancer.
-My Grandma and Aunt whom I'm very close to growing up with as a child both have Stage 4 cancer.
-I get diagnosed with a rare cornea disease that worsens my vision every day. (Lasik can't fix it and glasses do not help. The only fix is a procedure that is 6 grand and isn't FDA approved, or a cornea transplant.)
-I had dreams that get smashed because of said cornea disease. (Wanting to do military since I was a child and I trained hard for about a year straight)
- 2 Medical waivers for the military get denied (Active Duty and national Guard for Army)
-Having to put up with the burden of a disabled/HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE Uncle every day. (This would try anyone's patience especially if he is rude or violent)
-Only being able to stand by and do nothing as fire burns a said Aunt's House down (the one with Stage 4 Cancer, nobody was hurt.)
- Waking up every morning having to administer various shots and medications for my grandmother's survival until the day comes..
-Being able to do nothing as your Aunt recovers from cancer surgery but gets a horrible internal infection.
So I mean how can people stay so damned positive and religious? I'm sure people have gone through worse then what I have and are able to keep some kind of faith. Sorry about the QQ story but this is a serious question for me. I'm not religious or anything.I actually don't believe in anything of it.But religion is hope and hope can do everything.Hoping makes you stronger and more positive.Most of the time ppl will think that their religion cured some1 or help them pass an exam.In reality, it's their hope that did all the job.For exemple: Some1 praying/hoping that he will pass his exam will also study alot, in the end the study will make him pass.And the study come from his hope :).
Someone that gives up and loose hope have everything to loose in comparaison of someone that fights.
I hope I was clear x.x
Hope is about as useful as what you do with it, if all you do is hope then it's pointless. I fail to see why people need the crutch as religion to maintain hope. It's mainly commercial, religion as been making money off something that is inside all of us.They just making it more open or popular.Dont really know how to say it.They make a ***ton of money off it ;p look the vatican ;p entire floors in gold.If only they would sell it all and give it to those poor africans ;p
I'm sorry I don't rely on such a fickle thing as hope, I prefer to make my own destiny.
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By Phoenix.Degs 2011-03-14 01:08:33
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Vaness said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Vaness said: Fenrir.Skarwind said: I do have a question though for you die hard religious people.
This is more of a vent for me too so I apologize.
Say everything in your life goes wrong, how can you still have such faith in religion? How do you feel when prayers go un-answered and things just get worse.
For example, having to deal with this huge list of things is overwhelming.
In the past 7 months.
-Having to see my fiance falsely diagnosed with asthma and sent home from navy Basic training 6 weeks in. (it's only 8 weeks long.. stupid cold D:)
-Drunk Cousin steals Grandmother's van and smashes it up drunk.
-Drunk Cousin steals grandmothers dog because she pressed charges.
-A close family friend passes away from cancer.
-My Grandma and Aunt whom I'm very close to growing up with as a child both have Stage 4 cancer.
-I get diagnosed with a rare cornea disease that worsens my vision every day. (Lasik can't fix it and glasses do not help. The only fix is a procedure that is 6 grand and isn't FDA approved, or a cornea transplant.)
-I had dreams that get smashed because of said cornea disease. (Wanting to do military since I was a child and I trained hard for about a year straight)
- 2 Medical waivers for the military get denied (Active Duty and national Guard for Army)
-Having to put up with the burden of a disabled/HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE Uncle every day. (This would try anyone's patience especially if he is rude or violent)
-Only being able to stand by and do nothing as fire burns a said Aunt's House down (the one with Stage 4 Cancer, nobody was hurt.)
- Waking up every morning having to administer various shots and medications for my grandmother's survival until the day comes..
-Being able to do nothing as your Aunt recovers from cancer surgery but gets a horrible internal infection.
So I mean how can people stay so damned positive and religious? I'm sure people have gone through worse then what I have and are able to keep some kind of faith. Sorry about the QQ story but this is a serious question for me. I'm not religious or anything.I actually don't believe in anything of it.But religion is hope and hope can do everything.Hoping makes you stronger and more positive.Most of the time ppl will think that their religion cured some1 or help them pass an exam.In reality, it's their hope that did all the job.For exemple: Some1 praying/hoping that he will pass his exam will also study alot, in the end the study will make him pass.And the study come from his hope :).
Someone that gives up and loose hope have everything to loose in comparaison of someone that fights.
I hope I was clear x.x
Hope is about as useful as what you do with it, if all you do is hope then it's pointless. I fail to see why people need the crutch as religion to maintain hope. It's mainly commercial, religion as been making money off something that is inside all of us.They just making it more open or popular.Dont really know how to say it.They make a ***ton of money off it ;p look the vatican ;p entire floors in gold.If only they would sell it all and give it to those poor africans ;p
I'm sorry I don't rely on such a fickle thing as hope, I prefer to make my own destiny. personally i feel... that god only gives you what you can handle... but life is about choices, you make your own choices in how to deal with a situation... sometimes matters are out of your control... but its not god that puts those things into play, its humanity
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-03-14 01:11:39
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Vaness said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Vaness said: Fenrir.Skarwind said: I do have a question though for you die hard religious people.
This is more of a vent for me too so I apologize.
Say everything in your life goes wrong, how can you still have such faith in religion? How do you feel when prayers go un-answered and things just get worse.
For example, having to deal with this huge list of things is overwhelming.
In the past 7 months.
-Having to see my fiance falsely diagnosed with asthma and sent home from navy Basic training 6 weeks in. (it's only 8 weeks long.. stupid cold D:)
-Drunk Cousin steals Grandmother's van and smashes it up drunk.
-Drunk Cousin steals grandmothers dog because she pressed charges.
-A close family friend passes away from cancer.
-My Grandma and Aunt whom I'm very close to growing up with as a child both have Stage 4 cancer.
-I get diagnosed with a rare cornea disease that worsens my vision every day. (Lasik can't fix it and glasses do not help. The only fix is a procedure that is 6 grand and isn't FDA approved, or a cornea transplant.)
-I had dreams that get smashed because of said cornea disease. (Wanting to do military since I was a child and I trained hard for about a year straight)
- 2 Medical waivers for the military get denied (Active Duty and national Guard for Army)
-Having to put up with the burden of a disabled/HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE Uncle every day. (This would try anyone's patience especially if he is rude or violent)
-Only being able to stand by and do nothing as fire burns a said Aunt's House down (the one with Stage 4 Cancer, nobody was hurt.)
- Waking up every morning having to administer various shots and medications for my grandmother's survival until the day comes..
-Being able to do nothing as your Aunt recovers from cancer surgery but gets a horrible internal infection.
So I mean how can people stay so damned positive and religious? I'm sure people have gone through worse then what I have and are able to keep some kind of faith. Sorry about the QQ story but this is a serious question for me. I'm not religious or anything.I actually don't believe in anything of it.But religion is hope and hope can do everything.Hoping makes you stronger and more positive.Most of the time ppl will think that their religion cured some1 or help them pass an exam.In reality, it's their hope that did all the job.For exemple: Some1 praying/hoping that he will pass his exam will also study alot, in the end the study will make him pass.And the study come from his hope :).
Someone that gives up and loose hope have everything to loose in comparaison of someone that fights.
I hope I was clear x.x
Hope is about as useful as what you do with it, if all you do is hope then it's pointless. I fail to see why people need the crutch as religion to maintain hope. It's mainly commercial, religion as been making money off something that is inside all of us.They just making it more open or popular.Dont really know how to say it.They make a ***ton of money off it ;p look the vatican ;p entire floors in gold.If only they would sell it all and give it to those poor africans ;p
I'm sorry I don't rely on such a fickle thing as hope, I prefer to make my own destiny. Same here, anyway no1 could make me believe that out of no where 2 humans has been put on the planet and maked babies.Like seriously sisters and brothers and uncle maked babies together?! Isnt that aggainst the bible rules?! gonna stfu...
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-03-14 01:13:17
Phoenix.Degs said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Vaness said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Vaness said: Fenrir.Skarwind said: I do have a question though for you die hard religious people.
This is more of a vent for me too so I apologize.
Say everything in your life goes wrong, how can you still have such faith in religion? How do you feel when prayers go un-answered and things just get worse.
For example, having to deal with this huge list of things is overwhelming.
In the past 7 months.
-Having to see my fiance falsely diagnosed with asthma and sent home from navy Basic training 6 weeks in. (it's only 8 weeks long.. stupid cold D:)
-Drunk Cousin steals Grandmother's van and smashes it up drunk.
-Drunk Cousin steals grandmothers dog because she pressed charges.
-A close family friend passes away from cancer.
-My Grandma and Aunt whom I'm very close to growing up with as a child both have Stage 4 cancer.
-I get diagnosed with a rare cornea disease that worsens my vision every day. (Lasik can't fix it and glasses do not help. The only fix is a procedure that is 6 grand and isn't FDA approved, or a cornea transplant.)
-I had dreams that get smashed because of said cornea disease. (Wanting to do military since I was a child and I trained hard for about a year straight)
- 2 Medical waivers for the military get denied (Active Duty and national Guard for Army)
-Having to put up with the burden of a disabled/HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE Uncle every day. (This would try anyone's patience especially if he is rude or violent)
-Only being able to stand by and do nothing as fire burns a said Aunt's House down (the one with Stage 4 Cancer, nobody was hurt.)
- Waking up every morning having to administer various shots and medications for my grandmother's survival until the day comes..
-Being able to do nothing as your Aunt recovers from cancer surgery but gets a horrible internal infection.
So I mean how can people stay so damned positive and religious? I'm sure people have gone through worse then what I have and are able to keep some kind of faith. Sorry about the QQ story but this is a serious question for me. I'm not religious or anything.I actually don't believe in anything of it.But religion is hope and hope can do everything.Hoping makes you stronger and more positive.Most of the time ppl will think that their religion cured some1 or help them pass an exam.In reality, it's their hope that did all the job.For exemple: Some1 praying/hoping that he will pass his exam will also study alot, in the end the study will make him pass.And the study come from his hope :).
Someone that gives up and loose hope have everything to loose in comparaison of someone that fights.
I hope I was clear x.x
Hope is about as useful as what you do with it, if all you do is hope then it's pointless. I fail to see why people need the crutch as religion to maintain hope. It's mainly commercial, religion as been making money off something that is inside all of us.They just making it more open or popular.Dont really know how to say it.They make a ***ton of money off it ;p look the vatican ;p entire floors in gold.If only they would sell it all and give it to those poor africans ;p
I'm sorry I don't rely on such a fickle thing as hope, I prefer to make my own destiny. personally i feel... that god only gives you what you can handle... but life is about choices, you make your own choices in how to deal with a situation... sometimes matters are out of your control... but its not god that puts those things into play, its humanity and personally I feel that anyone that truly believes there is a god without evidence is a fool.
Take your bat ***crazy religion out of here.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-03-14 01:13:35
Cerberus.Vaness said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Vaness said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Vaness said: Fenrir.Skarwind said: I do have a question though for you die hard religious people.
This is more of a vent for me too so I apologize.
Say everything in your life goes wrong, how can you still have such faith in religion? How do you feel when prayers go un-answered and things just get worse.
For example, having to deal with this huge list of things is overwhelming.
In the past 7 months.
-Having to see my fiance falsely diagnosed with asthma and sent home from navy Basic training 6 weeks in. (it's only 8 weeks long.. stupid cold D:)
-Drunk Cousin steals Grandmother's van and smashes it up drunk.
-Drunk Cousin steals grandmothers dog because she pressed charges.
-A close family friend passes away from cancer.
-My Grandma and Aunt whom I'm very close to growing up with as a child both have Stage 4 cancer.
-I get diagnosed with a rare cornea disease that worsens my vision every day. (Lasik can't fix it and glasses do not help. The only fix is a procedure that is 6 grand and isn't FDA approved, or a cornea transplant.)
-I had dreams that get smashed because of said cornea disease. (Wanting to do military since I was a child and I trained hard for about a year straight)
- 2 Medical waivers for the military get denied (Active Duty and national Guard for Army)
-Having to put up with the burden of a disabled/HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE Uncle every day. (This would try anyone's patience especially if he is rude or violent)
-Only being able to stand by and do nothing as fire burns a said Aunt's House down (the one with Stage 4 Cancer, nobody was hurt.)
- Waking up every morning having to administer various shots and medications for my grandmother's survival until the day comes..
-Being able to do nothing as your Aunt recovers from cancer surgery but gets a horrible internal infection.
So I mean how can people stay so damned positive and religious? I'm sure people have gone through worse then what I have and are able to keep some kind of faith. Sorry about the QQ story but this is a serious question for me. I'm not religious or anything.I actually don't believe in anything of it.But religion is hope and hope can do everything.Hoping makes you stronger and more positive.Most of the time ppl will think that their religion cured some1 or help them pass an exam.In reality, it's their hope that did all the job.For exemple: Some1 praying/hoping that he will pass his exam will also study alot, in the end the study will make him pass.And the study come from his hope :).
Someone that gives up and loose hope have everything to loose in comparaison of someone that fights.
I hope I was clear x.x
Hope is about as useful as what you do with it, if all you do is hope then it's pointless. I fail to see why people need the crutch as religion to maintain hope. It's mainly commercial, religion as been making money off something that is inside all of us.They just making it more open or popular.Dont really know how to say it.They make a ***ton of money off it ;p look the vatican ;p entire floors in gold.If only they would sell it all and give it to those poor africans ;p
I'm sorry I don't rely on such a fickle thing as hope, I prefer to make my own destiny. Same here, anyway no1 could make me believe that out of no where 2 humans has been put on the planet and maked babies.Like seriously sisters and brothers and uncle maked babies together?! Isnt that aggain the bible rules?! gonna stfu...
lol, oh yeah, you went there...
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-03-14 01:20:35
I let myself go, plz forgive me ;x
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-03-14 01:21:57
Cerberus.Vaness said: I let myself go, plz forgive me ;x
It's fine, you just said what everyone else was thinking for years.
edit: well those that can think
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-03-14 01:24:43
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Vaness said: I let myself go, plz forgive me ;x
It's fine, you just said what everyone else was thinking for years.
edit: well those that can think I think you made the religious guy run away ;;;;;; I'm bored and wanted some action while giving myself a headache with spellcast.God FF I miss you already QQ
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-03-14 01:26:16
Cerberus.Vaness said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Vaness said: I let myself go, plz forgive me ;x
It's fine, you just said what everyone else was thinking for years.
edit: well those that can think I think you made the religious guy run away ;;;;;; I'm bored and wanted some action while giving myself a headache with spellcast.God FF I miss you already QQ
If only I had that power, if only...
/dreams
I'm missing XI right now too, but only because it lets me kill time.
I'll just have to play some other stuff in my down time.
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-03-14 01:30:39
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: Cerberus.Vaness said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Vaness said: I let myself go, plz forgive me ;x
It's fine, you just said what everyone else was thinking for years.
edit: well those that can think I think you made the religious guy run away ;;;;;; I'm bored and wanted some action while giving myself a headache with spellcast.God FF I miss you already QQ I was saying wtf out of missing the connection not wtf as in shocked and appalled lol lol well, my main isnt english so I guess it was hard to understand, I dunno ; ;
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-03-14 01:31:53
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Vaness said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Vaness said: I let myself go, plz forgive me ;x
It's fine, you just said what everyone else was thinking for years.
edit: well those that can think I think you made the religious guy run away ;;;;;; I'm bored and wanted some action while giving myself a headache with spellcast.God FF I miss you already QQ
If only I had that power, if only...
/dreams
I'm missing XI right now too, but only because it lets me kill time.
I'll just have to play some other stuff in my down time. Yeah, I miss FFXI as a time killer.Was having fun skilling staff in abyssea pts, you don't know how much I miss it. lol
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By Bismarck.Ariyon 2011-03-14 20:42:26
I guess my question to the people that don't believe would be... what do you have to lose by believing? If you believe in God and it turns out that it was for nothing, then so what? You've lived your life and that's all there is to it. But if you don't believe and it turns out there is a God, then it's a little too late to change your stance on the matter. By the time any of us figures out which it is, we'll probably all be dead anyways...
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-03-15 08:03:31
Sylph.Dobrusi said: “...He sends rain on the just and the unjust alike”
(Matthew 5:45, NLT)
We all have opportunities to get upset and live stressed out. The storms of life come to every person. No matter how good a person you are, you’re going to have some “rain” in your life. When these storms come, a lot people use their faith to try to control their circumstances. But I’ve found it’s better to use my faith to control myself in the midst of my circumstances. I know that if I can just remain stable in the storms of life and stay in peace, that’s what allows God to act on my behalf.
God never said that we wouldn’t have difficulties, but He did promise we could have peace in the midst of the storms. When you face adversities, one of the most powerful things you can do is simply stay calm. When you are at peace, you are displaying your faith in God. By your actions you’re saying, “God, I know You’re still on the throne. I know You’re bigger than this problem.” So keep peace in the midst of your storms today. Trust that He is working behind the scenes. Keep your heart open to Him because soon He will deliver you! And Exodus 21:7 Says: "And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do."
What's your point?
By Wombat 2011-03-15 08:10:06
Leviathan.Chaosx said: Sylph.Dobrusi said: “...He sends rain on the just and the unjust alike”
(Matthew 5:45, NLT)
We all have opportunities to get upset and live stressed out. The storms of life come to every person. No matter how good a person you are, you’re going to have some “rain” in your life. When these storms come, a lot people use their faith to try to control their circumstances. But I’ve found it’s better to use my faith to control myself in the midst of my circumstances. I know that if I can just remain stable in the storms of life and stay in peace, that’s what allows God to act on my behalf.
God never said that we wouldn’t have difficulties, but He did promise we could have peace in the midst of the storms. When you face adversities, one of the most powerful things you can do is simply stay calm. When you are at peace, you are displaying your faith in God. By your actions you’re saying, “God, I know You’re still on the throne. I know You’re bigger than this problem.” So keep peace in the midst of your storms today. Trust that He is working behind the scenes. Keep your heart open to Him because soon He will deliver you! And Exodus 21:7 Says: "And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do."
What's your point? You see the new Big Momma's House movie?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-03-15 08:12:14
Wombat said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Sylph.Dobrusi said: “...He sends rain on the just and the unjust alike”
(Matthew 5:45, NLT)
We all have opportunities to get upset and live stressed out. The storms of life come to every person. No matter how good a person you are, you’re going to have some “rain” in your life. When these storms come, a lot people use their faith to try to control their circumstances. But I’ve found it’s better to use my faith to control myself in the midst of my circumstances. I know that if I can just remain stable in the storms of life and stay in peace, that’s what allows God to act on my behalf.
God never said that we wouldn’t have difficulties, but He did promise we could have peace in the midst of the storms. When you face adversities, one of the most powerful things you can do is simply stay calm. When you are at peace, you are displaying your faith in God. By your actions you’re saying, “God, I know You’re still on the throne. I know You’re bigger than this problem.” So keep peace in the midst of your storms today. Trust that He is working behind the scenes. Keep your heart open to Him because soon He will deliver you! And Exodus 21:7 Says: "And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do."
What's your point? You see the new Big Momma's House movie? Nah.
By Wombat 2011-03-15 08:13:34
Leviathan.Chaosx said: Wombat said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Sylph.Dobrusi said: “...He sends rain on the just and the unjust alike”
(Matthew 5:45, NLT)
We all have opportunities to get upset and live stressed out. The storms of life come to every person. No matter how good a person you are, you’re going to have some “rain” in your life. When these storms come, a lot people use their faith to try to control their circumstances. But I’ve found it’s better to use my faith to control myself in the midst of my circumstances. I know that if I can just remain stable in the storms of life and stay in peace, that’s what allows God to act on my behalf.
God never said that we wouldn’t have difficulties, but He did promise we could have peace in the midst of the storms. When you face adversities, one of the most powerful things you can do is simply stay calm. When you are at peace, you are displaying your faith in God. By your actions you’re saying, “God, I know You’re still on the throne. I know You’re bigger than this problem.” So keep peace in the midst of your storms today. Trust that He is working behind the scenes. Keep your heart open to Him because soon He will deliver you! And Exodus 21:7 Says: "And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do."
What's your point? You see the new Big Momma's House movie? Nah. Dang, it looks awesome.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-03-15 08:20:03
Sylph.Dobrusi said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Sylph.Dobrusi said: “...He sends rain on the just and the unjust alike”
(Matthew 5:45, NLT)
We all have opportunities to get upset and live stressed out. The storms of life come to every person. No matter how good a person you are, you’re going to have some “rain” in your life. When these storms come, a lot people use their faith to try to control their circumstances. But I’ve found it’s better to use my faith to control myself in the midst of my circumstances. I know that if I can just remain stable in the storms of life and stay in peace, that’s what allows God to act on my behalf.
God never said that we wouldn’t have difficulties, but He did promise we could have peace in the midst of the storms. When you face adversities, one of the most powerful things you can do is simply stay calm. When you are at peace, you are displaying your faith in God. By your actions you’re saying, “God, I know You’re still on the throne. I know You’re bigger than this problem.” So keep peace in the midst of your storms today. Trust that He is working behind the scenes. Keep your heart open to Him because soon He will deliver you! And Exodus 21:7 Says: "And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do."
What's your point?
The point is even in adversity, you can find strength and peace in God. god also says it's ok to sell you daughter into slavery. I guess that's good if you're shopping around for a slave girl though.
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-03-15 08:26:28
Leviathan.Chaosx said: Sylph.Dobrusi said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Sylph.Dobrusi said: “...He sends rain on the just and the unjust alike”
(Matthew 5:45, NLT)
We all have opportunities to get upset and live stressed out. The storms of life come to every person. No matter how good a person you are, you’re going to have some “rain” in your life. When these storms come, a lot people use their faith to try to control their circumstances. But I’ve found it’s better to use my faith to control myself in the midst of my circumstances. I know that if I can just remain stable in the storms of life and stay in peace, that’s what allows God to act on my behalf.
God never said that we wouldn’t have difficulties, but He did promise we could have peace in the midst of the storms. When you face adversities, one of the most powerful things you can do is simply stay calm. When you are at peace, you are displaying your faith in God. By your actions you’re saying, “God, I know You’re still on the throne. I know You’re bigger than this problem.” So keep peace in the midst of your storms today. Trust that He is working behind the scenes. Keep your heart open to Him because soon He will deliver you! And Exodus 21:7 Says: "And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do."
What's your point?
The point is even in adversity, you can find strength and peace in God. god also says it's ok to sell you daughter into slavery. I guess that's good if you're shopping around for a slave girl though. You people sure are hung up on Old Testament stuff. The things of the first covenant are null and void now due to the new covenant (Jesus). No one has to do these crazy things because of sin anymore, they are just part of the Bible as a learning experience to the consequences of people's actions in the past.
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By Siren.Cherub 2011-03-15 08:27:05
People like Dobrusi don't realize the Bible is not a reliable history text. It's an ever-changing document that has been rewritten by scribes and "politicians" who rewrite, rearrange the bible to suite their political aims during ancient times.
It's interesting to see how many people place so much importance in the Bible while ignoring HOW it was written.
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By Ifrit.Bloodbathboy 2011-03-15 08:30:08
Here it is , plain and simple . Treat others in the same way you want to be treated.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-03-15 08:32:11
god is the ultimate troll:
Ifrit.Daemun said: You people sure are hung up on Old Testament stuff. The things of the first covenant are null and void now due to the new covenant (Jesus). No one has to do these crazy things because of sin anymore, they are just part of the Bible as a learning experience to the consequences of people's actions in the past. You just null and voided Judaism.
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By Lakshmi.Seoha 2011-03-15 08:33:33
Wombat said: Most religions deal with this stuff by giving perspective to the situation. Suffering in this life is temporary. Pleasure in this life is temporary. Faith, which ties into the eternal, trumps things which are bound to this life. Saying that terminal cancer is a necessarily "bad" thing is a matter of perspective. A religious person might say, "Look at all the time you've been given so far," or "In passing, you will be going to a better place." Which actually frames these things in a positive way. Suffering is an inevitability, and anyone who takes up a religion with the idea that that will change, either misunderstands or has been mislead. That's a very solid, clear, and realistic answer.
I think Wombat's post pretty much mirrors the perspective of everyone who have faith.
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By Ifrit.Bloodbathboy 2011-03-15 08:34:57
It is bro. Google BIGSTTNJFF or just use my name.
By Wombat 2011-03-15 08:35:02
Siren.Cherub said: People like Dobrusi don't realize the Bible is not a reliable history text. It's an ever-changing document that has been rewritten by scribes and "politicians" who rewrite, rearrange the bible to fix errors like the redundancy preceding this clause.
It's interesting to see how many people place so much importance in the Bible while ignoring HOW it was written. There's f*cking two of 'em now! TOO~ funny! =D
I do have a question though for you die hard religious people.
This is more of a vent for me too so I apologize.
Say everything in your life goes wrong, how can you still have such faith in religion? How do you feel when prayers go un-answered and things just get worse.
For example, having to deal with this huge list of things is overwhelming.
In the past 7 months.
-Having to see my fiance falsely diagnosed with asthma and sent home from navy Basic training 6 weeks in. (it's only 8 weeks long.. stupid cold D:)
-Drunk Cousin steals Grandmother's van and smashes it up drunk.
-Drunk Cousin steals grandmothers dog because she pressed charges.
-A close family friend passes away from cancer.
-My Grandma and Aunt whom I'm very close to growing up with as a child both have Stage 4 cancer.
-I get diagnosed with a rare cornea disease that worsens my vision every day. (Lasik can't fix it and glasses do not help. The only fix is a procedure that is 6 grand and isn't FDA approved, or a cornea transplant.)
-I had dreams that get smashed because of said cornea disease. (Wanting to do military since I was a child and I trained hard for about a year straight)
- 2 Medical waivers for the military get denied (Active Duty and national Guard for Army)
-Having to put up with the burden of a disabled/retarded Uncle every day. (This would try anyone's patience especially if he is rude or violent)
-Only being able to stand by and do nothing as fire burns a said Aunt's House down (the one with Stage 4 Cancer, nobody was hurt.)
- Waking up every morning having to administer various shots and medications for my grandmother's survival until the day comes..
-Being able to do nothing as your Aunt recovers from cancer surgery but gets a horrible internal infection.
So I mean how can people stay so damned positive and religious? I'm sure people have gone through worse then what I have and are able to keep some kind of faith. Sorry about the QQ story but this is a serious question for me.
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