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 Bismarck.Drakelth
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By Bismarck.Drakelth 2010-09-21 14:25:12  
I asked my dads minister last time they tried to convert me(long story), but anyways who did Cain have kids with? From how I understand the bible god made Adam and eve and they had 2 sons 1 killed the other(Cain I am pretty sure). So who did Cain have children with? If incest is a sin he couldn't of done it with his mother? So who?
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2010-09-21 14:27:18  
There are lots of inconsistencies with the teachings of the bible. If Adam and Eve were the first people, their children had to have had incest. Basic biology.
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By Ramuh.Ousama 2010-09-21 14:28:12  
I like how this thread will end.

Just wait until Darki/Stanflame/Flionheart gets here
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By Bismarck.Tuvae 2010-09-21 14:29:54  
If adam and eve were created by god, then technically they arent related, so thats not incest. But im looking forward to see how this thread unfolds.
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2010-09-21 14:31:05  
Bismarck.Tuvae said:
If adam and eve were created by god, then technically they arent related, so thats not incest. But im looking forward to see how this thread unfolds.
Eve was created by one of Adam's ribs, right? So technically they are...
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-21 14:31:38  
Bismarck.Tuvae said:
If adam and eve were created by god, then technically they arent related, so thats not incest. But im looking forward to see how this thread unfolds.
Right but after that? Their kids would either have to mate with each other or their parents.
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-09-21 14:31:51  
Bismarck.Tuvae said:
If adam and eve were created by god, then technically they arent related, so thats not incest. But im looking forward to see how this thread unfolds.

adam and eve's children would have to incest each other to have children though.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-21 14:33:19  
Pretty sure there is nothing in there against incest until some time after the flood, for what it's worth. When exactly that law was laid down however I do not recall.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-09-21 14:35:13  
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By natecrow 2010-09-21 14:35:56  
Two things I always find odd about these discussions...for one people always put limitations on God and how things happened, secondly God created more than 2 trees, 2 birds, etc. Wouldn't logic say he also did the same with human beings?
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-09-21 14:36:47  
natecrow said:
Two things I always find odd about these discussions...for one people always put limitations on God and how things happened, secondly God created more than 2 trees, 2 birds, etc. Wouldn't logic say he also did the same with human beings?


Logic and God are incompatible at their very core...
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By Flionheart 2010-09-21 14:37:27  
Ramuh.Ousama said:
I like how this thread will end.

Just wait until Darki/Stanflame/Flionheart gets here

I rarely talk about religion.

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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2010-09-21 14:38:03  
Odin.Zicdeh said:
natecrow said:
Two things I always find odd about these discussions...for one people always put limitations on God and how things happened, secondly God created more than 2 trees, 2 birds, etc. Wouldn't logic say he also did the same with human beings?


Logic and God are incompatible at their very core...
This..

You simply cannot bring logic into a religious discussion, nor can you try and insert logic into the bible.. It just doesn't work.
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2010-09-21 14:38:05  
Specific Incestuous relationships in the Bible
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By Bismarck.Tuvae 2010-09-21 14:38:39  
Ahh seems i misread hypnotized post. I thought he said adam and eve together was incest not the kids.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou 2010-09-21 14:38:56  
Why do you care?

Seriously.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2010-09-21 14:40:14  
Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou said:
Why do you care?

Seriously.
Pretty much everyone on the face of the planet "cares" about religion, however faintly.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-09-21 14:40:15  
>_> Yay, this thread!
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2010-09-21 14:40:29  
I would recommend against starting to ask these questions. Even if by some... miracle... you leave this thread with a good answer, you still have about 97329 things left to deal with.

For what it's worth, my new god is Santa Claus: be good, for goodness' sake.

(Also he sneaks into kids houses at night. Maybe I will reconsider.)
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By Flionheart 2010-09-21 14:40:53  
Bahamut.Serj said:
>_> Yay, this thread!

I wasn't even going to post but I got unceremoniously dragged in.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou 2010-09-21 14:42:59  
Valefor.Slipispsycho said:
Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou said:
Why do you care?

Seriously.
Pretty much everyone on the face of the planet "cares" about religion, however faintly.

Caring about religion is one thing, I just don't get why the OP cares about whether there was incest in the bible. Is this supposed to be some earth-shattering new discovery that reduces all of Christianity to rubble? I don't get it.
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By Fenrir.Stiklelf 2010-09-21 14:43:33  
You know with incest you don't have as high of a chance to produce a mutant baby as you would think.

IIRC it's like a 2% higher chance than a couple who are not related.
(I could be really wrong on this tho, but I could of sworn I heard it some place.)
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2010-09-21 14:44:37  
@OP: Why not just sit down and read through the Bible some day? You don't have to be religious to read it.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2010-09-21 14:46:34  
Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou said:
Valefor.Slipispsycho said:
Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou said:
Why do you care?

Seriously.
Pretty much everyone on the face of the planet "cares" about religion, however faintly.

Caring about religion is one thing, I just don't get why the OP cares about whether there was incest in the bible. Is this supposed to be some earth-shattering new discovery that reduces all of Christianity to rubble? I don't get it.
Perhaps he's never debated this fact before? I don't know, maybe he's just genuinely curious.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-09-21 14:47:41  
If we're all mutants...then we ourselves are the apocalypse...to Mother Earth.

It...it all makes sense now...IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!!!
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! *punches trees*
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2010-09-21 14:48:59  
Ramuh.Haseyo said:
If we're all mutants...then we ourselves are the apocalypse...to Mother Earth.

It...it all makes sense now...IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!!!
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! *punches trees*
Self fulfilling prophecy?
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By Fenrir.Stiklelf 2010-09-21 14:49:00  
Ramuh.Haseyo said:
If we're all mutants...then we ourselves are the apocalypse...to Mother Earth.

It...it all makes sense now...IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!!!
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! *punches trees*
Rashid smash?
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By Shiva.Demiomega 2010-09-21 14:49:16  
ok first off you would be better asking that question about Noah and his family. But if you had read the bible you would see incest wasnt a sin until the new testament. haters gunna hate :p
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-09-21 14:50:07  
Valefor.Slipispsycho said:
Ramuh.Haseyo said:
If we're all mutants...then we ourselves are the apocalypse...to Mother Earth.

It...it all makes sense now...IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!!!
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! *punches trees*
Self fulfilling prophecy?

Must...please...the master...*drools and steps on flowers*
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2010-09-21 14:51:20  
Fenrir.Stiklelf said:
You know with incest you don't have as high of a chance to produce a mutant baby as you would think.

IIRC it's like a 2% higher chance than a couple who are not related.
(I could be really wrong on this tho, but I could of sworn I heard it some place.)

Sort of related, and just about as vague, but I remember reading that a 40+ year old woman having a baby and cousins having a baby have about the same chance of birth defects.
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