New HTBF Shinryu 2.0

On god, fk all y'all that's received anything more than beitetsu boxes. Dozens in, nothing. Worst fight ever.

literally had to do 1000+ runs to get at least 1 of each rare drops. I also believe theres a limit of how many drops per total fights done from the entire server.

I've seen two helms, a scythe, and a dagger from probably... 300 VD runs with no rare drops whatsoever from my first 150 or so. And two mail and a cloak from trove. What a stupid fight.

Brew still works as of today's update.

I woke up just now thinking to myself " I didn't submit that bug report, wonder if they ever fixed it. Probably not". Good dream I had.

Someone else submitted that bug, but too late I guess.

Management: interest in the Shinryu battlefield is way up, why is this happening?

Intern handling all programming duties: well, there is this bug that lets them use Brews. the drop rate on gear is so low that balance hasn't really been affected.

Management: hmmmm. well, either fix the bug or adjust the drop rates on the rarer items to compensate.

Intern: internally screaming

Intern: So do nothing?

Management: Good...

Intern: good...?

On VD w/TH I'm seeing a drop rate of about 1.9% for armor and weapons. I'm almost finished 6/8.

My best friend Deathbane says"Shinryu drop stuff all the time too bad you can't equip party members"

Name checks out.

reminds me, why do i shoot for 20?

Never drops.

Is there a decent solo strategy these days? I haven't attempted this since the brew thing got patched. RDM/NIN can do VD? Is it like odin where you don't feed TP using event daggers?

Use normal weapons.
Only Supernova (Doom) and Cataclysmic Vortex (-%HP) are dangerous.
Bring Holy Water+% and some DT/MEva.
Shadows are good for preventing death after a Vortex move, keep Stoneskin up.

I usually stick to Sanguine spam, Tauret offhand or something else with Acc/Macc/MAB.

Now is especially good since Cornelia can't die.

SCH and RDM tend to be the jobs for it. I personally use SCH to solo VD. Drops still suck royally though.

SCH is great to solo VD lilith as well, but I farmed her like a chump years and years ago on VE/E as a thief lol.

I feel attacked lol.

Do you MB Helix and hold? My RDM is geared, but my sch is kind of outdated at this point. Haven't seen much SCH soloing done aside from helix and hold.

I'd be curious of the SCH strat also, haven't heard of it - assume its some kind of helix and stand there.

FWIW on RDM you sleep II on pull, then debuff him with everything - obviously save dia III for when you engage. Everything will land no need to immuno anything. Pop trusts for buffs - but they will die on engage. No need to do 1dmg weapons like odin - Use enspells and ws down. For safety can ride sanguine blade the whole time, but other ws are fine too - be ready to cure yourself at all times. Have tons of holy waters and it helps greatly to have a holy water set if you get doomed. And dispel MG when its used.

I still need the mail and that doesn't even seem to drop on VD - the drop rates are such garbage. My cloak came from trove where probably 100% of them come from at this point.

I think shadows are a complete waste of time, personally. I also don't bother using Stoneskin after the initial pull, which gives me just enough time to put up silence/para, and the rest of the debuffs are just bonuses. I have tried with and without shadows, and also tested /dnc. /NIN ignoring shadows is by far my fastest way.

Shinryu attacks on a set cycle, every 2.5-3 seconds (unless he uses a TP move or casts a spell). With Malignance, Bunzi Hat and Ayanmo +2 gloves (for enspell bonus), Cataclysmic Vortex has only hit me for 2200 damage roughly 3 times in thousands of uses, which puts me just at the perfect range to die from a random hit the next move, which frustratingly has only happened a couple of times. Usually Cataclysmic Vortex hits anywhere from 1100-1700 damage, and using Sanguine Blade covers heals you after every threatening move. I have a Cure4 macro with capped DT and some Meva to account for the few times I don't have TP and need to heal myself out of critical or yellow health. I use Crocea/Bunzi for weapons.

General strat I have been doing:
full buff >> proshell haste refresh ss gain-int enspell temper2 phalanx
summon cornelia+star sibyll (neither can die, SS buffs sanguine damage slightly)
sabo + silence/para to start, then move behind shinryu to avoid Cosmic Breath
can add additional enfeebles like Distract/Frazzle. Personally, I don't think Bio3, Poison2, Addle2 and Slow2 make any meaningful difference in this fight, so I am iffy on whether I apply them every time. Sometimes I am lazy and just don't bother

Shinryu starts with wings mode on, which is your invitation to deal as much damage as you can before he puts them down. Something like Sanguine > Spontaneity Stone 5 > Stone 5 > alternate stone 3 + sanguine as TP permits (this chunks a good bit of his health during this phase). I started adding nukes during this phase because if he uses Mighty Guard, he will nullify your TP gain if its under a certain damage amount, so you won't always have TP for Sanguine, but you still will want to push damage a lot during this phase

dispel Mighty Guard every time
Panacea Atomic Ray every time, since it lowers your damage significantly
I use remedy to remove para from Gyve Charge, but it doesn't land often
uses doom under 50%, having nicander's neck and a purity ring basically turns holy waters into a high success rate, usually first try, sometimes 2, rarely 3 tries, but never more than that

So long as you control the cadence of the steps above, Shinryu isa cake walk and you can expect to clear it anywhere from 8-13 minutes depending on practice. Sometimes he's a jerk and it takes longer due to his wings mode, but that's out of your control

I got my cloak from trove as well. I'm more after Scythe and Dagger, but I'd accept all the drops. Gotta catch em all!

Great explenation Buukki, thank you! I'll give it a shot tonight. My merits have just been collecting dust because I can't bring myself to do more Lilith...

Thanks for sharing. I wonder why they didn't use Kaustra as well (at least I didn't see it).

Does Shinryu do a lot of large AoE? Like would PLD + SCH make more sense to hold and DoT?

SCH/RDM
No Trusts

To the players wondering about trust selection
Other trusts will die
Either to damage or doom

My apologies, never saw these messages. But yeah exactly as the video shows above. I will MB thunder v and iv in between helix applications if I feel safe to do so but it's not a priority, just speeds it up a bit.

How do you do this on MNK or RDM. I cant figure it out.

Most importantly, you do it before Cornelia goes bye bye.

RDM/DNC. Barblizzard/para. Buffs. Apply debuffs. Haste Samba/Box Step/Savage Blade. Use Building Flourish when wings out. Extra cool points if you defense down him. Can Empy Arrow > Savage Blade if you're feeling spicy.

Bring Panaceas and Holy Waters. I have the equips to make holy water more effective so it usually only takes one to get doom off. Dispel him after Mighty Guard so he doesn't keep regain(?).

Trusts: CORNELIA, brygid, kuyin, and exemille[s] who you need to pro/shell so he can get his buff off before evaporating.

WHat do you do for debuffs, this was super helpful, i got close. Thank you :D