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By Asura.Saevel 2020-07-30 13:53:17  
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So that green yellowish gunk we sometimes cough up or see coming out of a wound, well that's actually the remains of one of our defenses. It engulfs enemy cells and then kills itself to render the invader inert.
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By Asura.Saevel 2020-07-30 14:00:14  
And second part, the adaptive system, aka antibodies and other specialized immune responses.

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By Asura.Saevel 2020-07-30 15:01:15  
And final one, cell to cell combat!

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By Garuda.Chanti 2020-07-30 15:35:01  
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This isn't chicken pox, you can't have a sleepover and get all your kids infected, and just be done with it....
That is NOT how chicken pox works. You are NEVER "done with it."

The varicella-zoster virus is one that can hide in your cells for decades* to emerge later as shingles.

*Many viruses have this ability.

TLDR: Don't take your kids to a chicken pox party, get them vaccinated.

P. S. If you have ever had chicken pox and are past 50 get a shingles vaccine.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2020-07-30 15:37:39  
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This isn't chicken pox, you can't have a sleepover and get all your kids infected, and just be done with it....
That is NOT how chicken pox works. You are NEVER "done with it."

The varicella-zoster virus is one that can hide in your cells for decades* to emerge later as shingles.

*Many viruses have this ability.

TLDR: Don't take your kids to a chicken pox party, get them vaccinated.

P. S. If you have ever had chicken pox and are past 50 get a shingles vaccine.

1. Definitely would never take my kids to a chicken pox party- they're about the most insulting thing I ever heard of once I had kids.

2. In my book, the chicken pox vaccine is a total waste as it does not provide protection later in life as Shingles- get that when you hit 50 as you said, because I've seen my Aunt have to go thru Shingles and it was worse than seeing her deal with Breast Cancer.
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By Asura.Saevel 2020-07-30 16:32:28  
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P. S. If you have ever had chicken pox and are past 50 get a shingles vaccine.

Vaccine's work people, get vaccinated.

The video's I linked above should make it very clear how and why vaccines work.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-07-30 16:37:41  
Bill Gates puts microchips in vaccines that track your location and make it so that you can't be religious!

Don't listen to the lies! Don't believe the propaganda!
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By Garuda.Chanti 2020-07-30 17:57:50  
Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
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2. In my book, the chicken pox vaccine is a total waste as it does not provide protection later in life as Shingles- get that when you hit 50 as you said, because I've seen my Aunt have to go thru Shingles and it was worse than seeing her deal with Breast Cancer.
If you do not get chicken pox, the varicella-zoster virus has never entered your cells and CANNOT trigger shingles.

Hint: chicken pox vaccine, by preventing chicken pox, prevents shingles too.

Sorry about your aunt, the newer shingles vaccine was only approved in 2017.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-07-30 17:59:37  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Bill Gates puts microchips in vaccines that track your location and make it so that you can't be religious!

Don't listen to the lies! Don't believe the propaganda!
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-07-31 11:35:53  
You know what just simply is actually infuriating?

Every conversation of "schools should reopen"

"you're hurting kids by not opening schools" "Nutrition programs (school lunches) and cases of child abuse"

What the actual ***. Why is it that the lack of school's fault that grown *** adults aren't(can't) feeding their *** kids. Why is it the lack of school's fault that grown *** adults are abusing their kids. This is a serious issue. It has nothing to do with schools. It's a lack of adults to be capable of the bare minimums of being a *** adult. It's appalling.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-07-31 11:52:04  
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Why is it that the lack of school's fault that grown *** adults aren't(can't) feeding their *** kids. Why is it the lack of school's fault that grown *** adults are abusing their kids.
How conservative of you to say that.

That is an argument that conservatives have been making since the 80s.

I mean, there is benefits for funding school lunches, don't get me wrong. But honestly, schools are not government run or sponsored babysitters, which is what some parents are treating them as.

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It has nothing to do with schools. It's a lack of adults to be capable of the bare minimums of being a *** adult. It's appalling.
Good for you to say that. Now, who should be responsible for the child? The parent, or the government?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-07-31 11:59:40  
You'll hate the answer so I won't even bother.

Adults can't be trusted to do the bare minimums. The obvious solutions are obvious. All of which "violate muh freedumbs".
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-07-31 12:04:43  
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You'll hate the answer so I won't even bother.
There is never an answer I hate. As long as your opinions are your opinions. Only responses I deplore are the generic "no u!" responses you see every now and then.

Believe it or not, I rather we have a discussion. If you are honest about your feelings, no matter what your answer is, I accept it as your answer.

We can always talk about your answer, along with mine, all we want. That's what discussion is all about.

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Adults can't be trusted to do the bare minimums. The obvious solutions are obvious. All of which "violate muh freedumbs".
Enlighten us. Please.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-07-31 15:51:34  
No distancing and no masks anywhere to be found, that's gonna be a yikes.

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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-07-31 16:02:40  
There is one guy with a mask (on improperly) in a wider shot. (all the way to the right) (maybe dude in the back row middle has a mask around his neck too)

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There is one guy with a mask (on improperly) in a wider shot. (all the way to the right) (maybe dude in the back row middle has a mask around his neck too)


Yo, for real, anyone not condemning the BLM rioters for not social distancing in the thousands for over 2 months really shouldn't pick on a group of MAYBE 30 people not distancing.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-08-01 11:14:01  
You can disagree with the protestors "doing the wrong thing for the right reason". and agree that these "mini rallies" are the "wrong thing for the wrong reason" at the same time.

Protestors should be wearing masks. These people should to. Everyone should be.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-08-01 11:32:27  
In that case, are "protesters burning down buildings" doing the wrong thing for the right reason?
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Protestors =/= rioters.

And to be quite frank; burning things down is the right thing to do. it's unfortunate that no one will give a *** until you light something on fire.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2020-08-01 11:35:27  
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In that case, are "protesters burning down buildings" doing the wrong thing for the right reason?
How about white supremacists pretending to be protestors burning down buildings?

How many multiple negatives can you fit into that concept?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-08-01 11:46:59  
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And to be quite frank; burning things down is the right thing to do. it's unfortunate that no one will give a *** until you light something on fire.
If burning ***is the right thing to do, burn your own ***down before you demand others do it to others.

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How about white supremacists pretending to be protestors burning down buildings?

How many multiple negatives can you fit into that concept?
You cited a very small example of, well, a very small group.

Just because 1 or 2 people who pretend to be Antifa and burn ***down does not make Antifa a peaceful organization.

Just like you and others demand that we separate rioters from protesters, you should also separate "right wing antagonists" from Antifa.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-08-01 11:52:05  
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Protestors =/= rioters.

And to be quite frank; burning things down is the right thing to do. it's unfortunate that no one will give a *** until you light something on fire.

Clarify your statement. In my head, there is a stark difference between burning down something belonging to the person who is supposedly causing you grief (e.g. a police station) and setting fire to a local business whose only crime was being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Sure, both are against the law and I don't condone either, but the latter is an unfair and unnecessary show of force being dealt to an innocent victim, which is very thing that the protesters are supposed to be fighting against. There is nothing "right" about that.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-08-01 11:55:16  
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Protestors =/= rioters.

And to be quite frank; burning things down is the right thing to do. it's unfortunate that no one will give a *** until you light something on fire.

Clarify your statement. In my head, there is a stark difference between burning down something belonging to the person who is supposedly causing you grief (e.g. a police station) and setting fire to a local business whose only crime was being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Sure, both are against the law and I don't condone either, but the latter is an unfair and unnecessary show of force being dealt to an innocent victim, which is very thing that the protesters are supposed to be fighting against. There is nothing "right" about that.
Which, frankly, more innocent people and businesses are hurt against rioters and Antifa than the ones who supposedly caused the rioters "grief".

Even that is debatable, because nearly all of the rioters were "never wronged" in the first place.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-08-01 12:07:20  
It's pretty straight forward. They've been protesting in oregon for 60 days.

You haven't heard ***about it unless something was "on fire".

So. It's akin to firing a gun at a rescue helicopter that "doesn't see you". Or, burning your food supply on a deserted island if you have no other recourse to be found.

Sometimes you have to shank your celly to get medical attention.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-08-01 12:26:45  
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You haven't heard ***about it unless something was "on fire".
Are you kidding me? It's been nothing but news, with or without property damage.

If Obama was president, you wouldn't hear about it much, you hardly heard about Occupy Wall Street except the first few days, unless you watched Fox News.

But now that Trump's president, if it makes him look bad, it's 24/7 coverage.

So, please don't give us that "it has to burn for people to notice" crap.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-08-01 12:36:57  
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It's pretty straight forward. They've been protesting in oregon for 60 days.

You haven't heard ***about it unless something was "on fire".

So. It's akin to firing a gun at a rescue helicopter that "doesn't see you". Or, burning your food supply on a deserted island if you have no other recourse to be found.

Sometimes you have to shank your celly to get medical attention.

So, if I have a cause/grievance and no one will listen to me, it's okay for me to light your house on fire for the free press?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-08-01 12:41:32  
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
It's pretty straight forward. They've been protesting in oregon for 60 days.

You haven't heard ***about it unless something was "on fire".

So. It's akin to firing a gun at a rescue helicopter that "doesn't see you". Or, burning your food supply on a deserted island if you have no other recourse to be found.

Sometimes you have to shank your celly to get medical attention.

So, if I have a cause/grievance and no one will listen to me, it's okay for me to light your house on fire for the free press?
In that case, you don't even need a cause/grievance if you claim SJW!
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-08-01 12:42:06  
Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-08-01 12:45:35  
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Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
Don't complain when your and your family's home is burnt to the ground for the name of <insert perceived prejudice>
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-08-01 12:48:28  
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Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

Drop me your address in PM. Maybe at some point I'll get offended by something, or need a kidney, or have a book to promote. It's nice to have someone on hand willing to sacrifice their own comfort and livelihood because I have something I "gotta do".
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