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July 2019 Version Update
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By Asura.Shiraj 2019-07-08 00:44:17  
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Meh, doesn't look like anyone other than SMN and PUP are going to bother with the Cait Sith fight. Better hope a pet burn is viable or they're going to have issues getting people.

Almost all content is viable for pet burn... kinda sad, but yeah.
Very few exceptions.
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By Bismarck.Ihinaa 2019-07-08 00:45:04  
Heck yeah Mug ammo
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2019-07-08 00:47:29  
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By Asura.Biglovin 2019-07-08 00:49:35  
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C. Palug Stone DEX+10 AGI+10 Accuracy+15 THF / NIN / DNC / RUN (Ammo)

Still lukewarm but ok

Ullr +15 Dex
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By Aerix 2019-07-08 00:49:53  
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Eh it's 5 DA vs varar rings+1

A little mediocre

Already get 100% DA on overdrives

You're only getting 100% DA during Overdrive if you equip both Coilers, but since the last PUPdate it hasn't been worth using Coiler 1 over the alternatives in almost every situation.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-07-08 00:50:29  
The Crown is Better than Apogee +1, So you'll get people pilling up for that +1 dps to Meteor Strike(*), but the rest, kinda shrugging on.

There's gains but it's not even close to Odin
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By Autocast 2019-07-08 00:51:04  
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Ullr +15 Dex


Also removes your ability to swap to other ammo.
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By Asura.Biglovin 2019-07-08 00:52:07  
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Ullr +15 Dex


Also removes your ability to swap to other ammo options.

You're right. Disregard my chime in :/
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By Aerix 2019-07-08 00:53:17  
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Ullr +15 Dex


Also removes your ability to swap to other ammo.

Small loss of Acc and STP vs. +15 STR/DEX on WS. Ullr is definitely ahead. Disregard. Forgot about Yetshila +1.
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By Autocast 2019-07-08 00:54:15  
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Small loss of Acc and STP vs. +15 DEX on WS. Ullr is definitely ahead.

Also lose the resist/DT from staunch in an idle/defensive swap or the magic eva of yamma, or MAB option of seething.
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By Asura.Chiaia 2019-07-08 00:55:15  
Just put up new Windower Resources on live and dev.
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By Aerix 2019-07-08 00:56:43  
***'s situational as always. If you're going for maximum physical damage then Ullr is best. Just set up different weapon sets to keep the option for Ammo swapping available to you.
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By Asura.Sirris 2019-07-08 01:19:48  
Ring will be BiS for BST multi-hit Ready moves by far. I'll take it.
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By Asura.Shiraj 2019-07-08 01:23:39  
It's *** Sahagins.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-07-08 01:30:13  
Asura.Shiraj said: »
It's *** Sahagins.

We already knew that from the update note lol

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The issue wherein the graphic for the Bozzetto Flowspear was incorrect under certain conditions.
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By Asura.Suteru 2019-07-08 01:42:45  
What's the new monthly HTBF for deeds? Looks like they forgot to update it again.

e: also looks like they updated the RoE UI:
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-07-08 01:47:31  
It looks like they just did some repeats.

Chobo race
Gobbie boxes
Nexus They failed again, this is wrong
WOE
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2019-07-08 01:47:49  
DEX ammo is pretty great for NIN. DEX+4 Jukukik Feather was STILL BiS Shun/Metsu ammo until now.

Ring is pretty lame for PUP, since Varar+1 exists. LOL puppet nuking Macc piece?
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By Bismarck.Indigla 2019-07-08 01:48:36  
Did they not update the description for the monthly deed RoE for the HTMB again? It still says Celestial Nexus, but I'm guessing it's just really Stellar Fulcrum again.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-07-08 01:58:09  
It is -NOT- Celestial Nexus
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By Asura.Shiraj 2019-07-08 02:02:05  
so just did Cait Sith on D. It was very easy. 4 manned Cor, Geo, brd, run. Most of the damage was RUN since stupid mechanics killed COr instantly.

Level ? Holy insta killed Cor at 90% then insta killed Geo at 30%.
At 15% Cait Sith used Benediction....

The Level ? Holy kept saying no effect on me, the RUN and I don't know why, but it 1 shotted everyone else.

Very easy zerg. Spammed Dimi no effort at all.

Cait Sith has very high double attack to Quadruple attack, unsure which, she attacks fast. doesn't hit hard. Never noticed any En-light effects.

Caitsith casts Haste 2, Embrava, Slowga from what I know.
Also uses Divine Favour and Level ? holy. They were the only tp moves I seen.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-07-08 02:04:54  
If you watched the Digest it's HP ? Holy, so they had bad ???? HP luck and you didn't

(and /or RUN is just *** OP like duh and it's magic damage)

It'll be something stupid like "if your HP ends in 9 you instantly die"
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By Asura.Shiraj 2019-07-08 02:13:00  
I was honestly practically full hp the whole fight. Hybrid DD set spamming WS. Parried 90% of attacks, the attacks that did hit were around 0-40, depending if caught in WS set.

I'd estimate she only has 300k HP on D. 1 30k Dimidiation was what looked like 10% HP, but I can't recall skillchains doing much or at all, so hard to say exact.

And no, she does not absorb light skillchains.

So 32k Dimi -> 24k Dimi only created a 4k light skillchain, so she heavily resists it.

Double edit: Not sure on /run. I gave the geo x3 Tenebrae valiance and still insta died, so not sure that will do anything, possibly the resist values over damage?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-07-08 02:29:57  
When you go look at his idle HP

The move does "some damage amount" based on "some multiple or some form of your current (max?) HP"

FFT Calculator-esk

If your HP is ???1 and his is ???9 that's why he's dying. (or it could be reversed, or have a "lucky number" etc)
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By Asura.Shiraj 2019-07-08 02:33:53  
VD is way *** harder. oh my.

She gains access to Cure 6, Regen 5 and she hits like a truck.
gains en-light which was hitting me for 200+ in a Max HQ M.eva set.
Cure 6 for 51k.

This was with 3 Tenebrae Valiance. Went from No effect to damage after a while. The other party members all got 1 shotted.


2nd Screenshot is as soon as Valiance fell I got literal butt *** for 5k.

Also Divine Favour is a self-Erase move for Cait Sith.
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By Asura.Sechs 2019-07-08 02:35:00  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
The Crown is Better than Apogee +1, So you'll get people pilling up for that +1 dps to Meteor Strike(*), but the rest, kinda shrugging on.

There's gains but it's not even close to Odin
How is the crown better than Apogee+1? Looks slightly worse to me?
Depending on macc, I guess. Crown has 35 Macc and Apogee+1 has none, plus Apogee has the annoying HP- allright, but if we're looking just at pure DPS it's basically 35 macc vs 2 BPD, rest is the same pretty much, if you go path A.

If someone doesn't have Apogee+1 already though, that's another story.
Especially if you want to get multiple Apogee+1s for different purpose, I'd probably use Crown instead of Apogee+1 for Magic BPs, to save a small amount of gil.
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By Asura.Butmunch 2019-07-08 02:37:30  
Asura.Sechs said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
The Crown is Better than Apogee +1, So you'll get people pilling up for that +1 dps to Meteor Strike(*), but the rest, kinda shrugging on.

There's gains but it's not even close to Odin
How is the crown better than Apogee+1? Looks slightly worse to me?
Depending on macc, I guess. Crown has 35 Macc and Apogee+1 has none, plus Apogee has the annoying HP- allright, but if we're looking just at pure DPS it's basically 35 macc vs 2 BPD, rest is the same pretty much, if you go path A.

If someone doesn't have Apogee+1 already though, that's another story.
Especially if you want to get multiple Apogee+1s for different purpose, I'd probably use Crown instead of Apogee+1 for Magic BPs, to save a small amount of gil.

better acc and magic acc and its the same magic att then vs apogee+1
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-07-08 02:37:33  
Avatar: "Magic Atk. Bonus"+38
"Blood Pact" damage +10

Pet: "Magic Attack Bonus"+35
Blood Pact Damage+8 (+2 set bonus)

Crown wins (for magic)
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By Asura.Sechs 2019-07-08 02:41:41  
It's +4 BP damage from the set.

Edit:
Well I guess it depends on how many pieces you're using.
I only have 2x +1 pieces, so the difference between using Apogee+1 or not is actually 4BPD set bonus for me, making crown not really so worth it.
If you have at least 3 pieces the difference is gonna be just 2 BPD, at which point I guess I'd use crown I suppose.

Also the values slipped, it's actually +38 for the crown, not +35 like Apogee+1 path A.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-07-08 02:43:37  
It's stupidly close either way, and it's a clear loss for FC anyway(I think?). How often do you use strictly magical pacts.

Diabolos for Onc... and.... Thunderstorm for Genoob? Meteor Strike for the inferior Zerde style.
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