You'll Shoot Your Eye Out! - New FFXI RNG Guide

Agree 100%. I just wish I knew what was going on in their videos.

I tried encourage people in my previous LS to play optimally and people reacted very bad to that. They just wanted to have fun and play how they wanted. You really need specific people to do certain things.

Sure, thats your personal opinion. I play both. I know many people that play one and don't/won't play the other.

Its actually harder to convince the top groups to change. When you're already winning and doing so without much sacrifice in terms of personal performance, it becomes even harder to implement change.

Maybe, but my current LS is top group (you know that tho) and they seems to be very open minded about new optimal approaches and also have no problem doing old optimal approaches for the 300th times XD

EDIT: Also im not trying to say tryharding is better than chillout play with drink and netflix. Its just completely different approaches and it usually takes specific people to do one or another and even more specific to mix it.

I can generally only dream about having a tank who will position the mob to allow me to Decoy Shot. For anything with knockback (most stuff of consequence these days), they'll want to wedge themselves into a wall. Is Decoy only a thing when using tanks that rely on Anchor?

Also, although I totally agree that when you CAN use Decoy, Gandiva is very good for it... Armageddon is even better. Same massive white damage planted on the tank, but even less hate on the RNG since you're most likely using magical WS that generate a lot less hate than Jishnu's.

This is why I find Fomalhaut so dangerous: Last Stand is a freaking hate magnet, and you don't get the other weapons' enmity reduction potential (Anni is obvious, Gandiva/Arma get the ability to be a better Decoy Shot weapon, Gastra/Arma can focus on lower enmity WS). I guess Fail-Not is even worse in that regard, I just don't usually think about archery options that aren't Gandiva.

I think arma is actually more white damage, not the same. At least when you cap attack and especially when mob has more than 350 AGI. I'm a little drunk, but I think I already made this comparison here at some point in the past.

Yeah first post at page 40 if someone is interested.

I just wanted to clarify the AGI portion of that set in case people wonder...
/war (/nin u get +1 extra AGI on your base)

AGI on cape
103+355=458
&
No AGI on cape
103+325=428


Oshoshi Gloves +1 + AGI on cape will give you
103+330=433

Hahaha I'm sorry. I was a little drunk when I was writing that and somehow I was seeing AGI+56 not AGI +5 on Oshosi lol

My bad xD

I need to soon make some calculation for what to wear for double set for head and body. The problem is I have no idea what's the % chance for triple shot with body.

lol its all cool. No need for apologies.
Been wondering myself in regards to activation rate

based on this:
Double Shot damage boost affects the second shot of a Double Shot proc and adds 11% additional damage.
Augmented with Adds "Enhances 'Snapshot' effect"
Adds 1% Double Shot rate per Snapshot merit level. The Double Shot job ability does not need to be active for the effect to proc.
There is nothing about Triple Shot :/

more edits...
So Impulse belt "enhances snapshot effect" combined with the body will be effecting Double Shot activation rate, since the body augments it o.o' or its just for Snapshot merits-.-'
If it doesn't, then whats the reasoning behind the description. There is direct Snapshot+% gear and there is "Enhances Snapshot Effect"
I wonder if its the same for Triple Shot

just snapshot merits, relic body can double shot without the JA being active.

yes that part is clear, I was just not sure if its only checking for snapshot merits which if you 5/5 will give you 10% chance for double shot to activate while double shot is not up, OR/AND other gears that have "enhances snapshot effect" will get augment toward double shot %

They wont. enhances snapshot effect is exactly the same as snapshot+. Just at some point they decided to be more clear with description. Same for Fast Cast for example. Old gear has Enhances "Fast Cast" effect, while new gear "Fast Cast"+4%. There is few more similar cases I think.

awesome, thanks for that

Made a short test. From 100 Double Shot proc (dont have time for more, making calc took 10h..), 49 procced Triple Shot with Arcadian Body. So in Ranged "White" damage calc I just posted, I put 50% on Occ. becomes Triple Shot.

So what was the conclusion on AM3 set for armageddon? I've seen acouple variations floating around. TY in advance!

Does anyone have the numbers for STP needed for 3/4 hit builds? Is it possible to 2hit these days?

All my old spreadsheets and the calculator I used to use are lost on my dead SSD. I swear it was like 31/20WS for a 4hit, but could be wrong.

So it seems like Tellen is a slight upgrade from Yemaya for midshot TP set? Probably a bigger upgrade in situations like empy AM3 white damage build (because of true shot+), but outside of that, it's basically a +5 racc sidegrade. Unless I'm missing something. Any of the other Gaol gear worthwhile for RNG?

Just a quick comment- for empy/relic AM3 sets, people are going to use Kwahu Kachina Belt+1 over Yemaya. True Shot is damn good, but at times hard to take advantage of. If your group is taking Rangers, often its because of the safety that damage from distance provides.

So with this new belt from odyssey it’s possible to get something like +27 true shot without a ton of sacrifice, question being in the event of actually being able to stand at the correct range to take benefit from it specifically for say Armageddon and Gandiva would it be more beneficial to utilize it over a few crit rate/dmg?

Just going off the OP original set to get the 27 true shot would require swapping the legs feet and belt which in turn you’d end up losing 11 crit rate and 6 dmg

Wondering if it would overtake the overall dmg in an AM3 spray and pray situation

Does True Shot do anything at attack cap?

From my understanding it works similarly to PDL except it’s a straight dmg increase period if you’re at the right range for it


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What I mean is, at attack cap, does true shot have any effect?

From the testing I saw on the old BG forums yes

I posted it almost during update, so it kinda got lost in whole Odyssey discussions, but you can check things like that in my spreadsheet :P

Spreadsheet link
Thread to comment/ask/report bugs about this spreadsheet

Edit: I'm doing some heavy edits to aiming delay now, so stay tuned.

On the topic of True Shot, I did a little testing when I got my Gandiva and it seemed like it only proc'd on the first hit of Jishnu's Radiance.
Can anyone else confirm or refute this? Seemed like it was working similarly to how WSD only affects the first hit of WS, but it is certainly possible that my testing was flawed.

I'd be very reluctant to give up feet unless you're talking Double Shot down sets only. Whenever you have both Double Shot AND AM3 up, Oshosi +1 helps a lot for both aspects (D.Shot and Crit), not to mention the huge Enm-15.

This does make me lean more toward Oshosi Trousers +1 with Double Shot + AM3 though (I generally use Darraigners with DS down but AM3 up, for a pure crit focus)... I honestly kinda dismissed the True Shot on Oshosi and used those just for the DS/Racc. But maybe True Shot has a bit more value than I've given it credit for on that piece.

Moving this from COR thread


If this works like this, then RNG has some ridiculous DPS just shooting with Double Shot and AM3 up, so ridiculous, that I think something is off. Waiting for someone with higher knowledge or someone who will find the bug in my sheet >.>