New REMA Augments (Full List)

Why is this relevant? When 1 handers use them, the bonus you get is effectively halved (at least in the OAT sense.)

COR has no mainhand RMEA in your example. There would be a small damage loss in fact if the augments for it were moved to OH rather than MH if you used 2x Rostams. COR also is not locked into /nin or /dnc anywhere near as badly as a job like BST, so it wouldn't necessarily be included. NIN/DNC/THF tho would have a good shot at a damage increase by offhanding one of these rather than a 2nd RMEA if they were not all locked to MH since RMEA have always been locked to MH for full effect anyway.

I'm just thinking that they should have actually attempted to carve out a genuine and unique niche for these things rather than set the vast majority up for failure from the starting line...

Oh yah. WTF is up with the BLM staff? ._. I have yet to encounter any testing results on it, but unless the baseline dmg>mp effect applies to raw/unmodified damage before Mana Wall, then PathC actually causes it to negate part of itself when MW is up! May be intentional design, but extremely counterintuitive. Yay for 5min 120% damage invulnerability though. XD

They could quite easily adjust the copy/paste nature of the Path A/B augments for specific jobs if it was absolutely needed for balance. Miniscule odds of it happening since we're dealing with SE, but I don't imagine that it would actually take a mammoth amount of work.

This. We have to make TWO weapons to get HALF effectiveness for either Aftermath or OAT. That's the trade off. This update makes the offhand for me comparable to Utu Grip in that it's just a stat stick, while I have half an aftermath or half an OAT in mainhand.

I just don't get why you're suddenly whining about it now unless you regret the dumb amount of gil you spent on a weapon before we knew the augments

maybe many of us expected SE to "right the wrongs of mistakes past" with these augments, and that was probably a bit too high of a standard to set. Instead, we just get a power creep of similar styling to the Magian Moogle steps that took our weapons from 75 all the way to now- slowly adding base damage, a little acc or macc here and there, and boosting the percentage increase to the related weaponskill. In more cases than not, that's all we're getting here. Not an overhaul of the weapon's functionality.

We can still be peeved at the lack of specialization in the augments- I'm not saying that. But with the reflection of a day now on it, I can't say any more that I'm surprised.

And thus you have failed to learn your lesson.

oh so true...

I first thought su5 for THF was completely useless. Then I saw the Scythe augments and after stewing about it I was like...holy ***that's going to be amazing. So yeah I bought one. And then they came out with mainhand only, which while there are plenty of effects that end up only working mainhand, they've never outright stated it. I mean even if the follow up attack was mainhand only but the subtle blow II worked in both hands I'd consider Gandring solidly BiS. But follow up attacks have worked on offhands before (Justice, raetic) and can't think of where they haven't before. So we had plenty of reason to think they'd still work in offhand.

I was already suspecting augment would be nerfed in a way on 1h before update. Offhand a 50% FA weapon and SB2 25% is just too good.

Raetic isn't on the same lv as this since it needs MP and no SB.

And Raetic was also already more viable for 2h users than 1h users because they get the full impact of the weapon...

Can anyone confirm how the Follow-up attack works and which rules it abides to? Does it work like raetic, i.e. can't proc on WS? Can it proc alongside a Double Attack, but not on a Double attack? Does it work on the offhand weapon if you're mainhanding the Follow-up attack+50% weapon? Any information is appreciated.

Since bullets dispensed from weapons are at i119, there is more than a good chance that when your ranged weapon moves to i1194 (i120 whatever we're calling it), so will the ammo from the pouches

My +1 Knife is Rank 8 atm might be Rank 9 tomorrow before I test also.

The guns got -2 inventory you now how to dispense from a belt pouch which it's because no enough room on the weapon to show the aug path. Sad bullets didnt get upgrade damage least I know not to ag anni now as it got gaped even more by fomal.

Anyone got a simplified explanation for how one starts and then acquires the Mythic Updated Weapons? There's a lot of info blurred

I think annihilator is in a great spot right now. You would still use it for coronach, which got a 20% boost with this update (and that is more than what last stand got). The 5 stp does not hurt either. You would still be using fomal for pure damage, but anni's niche didnt suffer one bit.

With the rate of how slow upgrading a single weapon is going to be [Almost same time as farming 10k JP for all types] I'm more than sure that people will end up doing [Dyna + Omen] quite frequently regardless..

Unless they want to buy all the [700-800] singles for rank 15 or multibox the hell out of it...

A group of 10 farming [Dyna+Omen] will net them 60-80 singles/person each week! thats almost 12-14 weeks.

Prices are expected to be really high [200M+] for each weapon. [assuming 250k for singls]

Hey, it that 700-800 confirmed or just a guess?

Its a guess reflecting Eschalixir mechanic to rank 15.

I wonder if the jp community has the same sentiments that we do about this update

So far seen some posts about the 700 weekly cap, haven't seen any complaints about mainhand yet but I'm using Google Translate and my fluent JP buddy has been busy.

Wasn't there a pic of it going to rank 25?

Su5 weapons goto 25
necks goto 15

+2 necks go to 25.

Some of you are use to being fed *** by SE, so when you actually get dog crap it's like a normal day. It's sad to be honest.

Necks go to:
NQ to lv15
HQ to lv20
HQ2 to lv25

That's the whole point in that augmenting system. Its the same for weapon btw. Only HQ2 weapon goes to rank 25 and you can also augment NQ weapon to rank 15 and HQ1 to rank 20.

If it follows same Eschalixir mechanic, It'll be roughly ~25,000 RP to level 25.

Well but REMA only goes to rank 15 if im not mistaken. That's why REMA only have items to upgrade and SU5/necks have additionally RP from kills.

So yea at R8 my knife has +16 "double attacks" so much easier to test. With 0 sources of double attack else where in 200 hits I never multi hit but I did see a bunch of double damage including crits. Nice translation error SE.