Mog Wardrobe 3 & 4 Announced With A Fee.

Realistically this will probably be XI mobile though.

Here is the cow, let's get some milk out of it!!!
Seriously SE?!? we've been paying your monthly fees every months for some of us nearly 15 years all you find now is to try to get more money from us (30% it's crazy) for something everybody was begging for, for i don't know how long.
I'm sorry but i can't take it no more, you're way out of your mind with that idea...
You'll probably get a few bucks from some of us but you're going to loose a lot of players who are tired of your *** (include myself).

Bye

Feels like half the people whining don't even play.
None of it is being forced. There's clear workarounds. Go make a mule for $1 and get more space and suffer the inconvenience or pay and have the extra space to play around with.

I do the same thing with every other aspect of my life already.

Buy admission ticket to some event? want to reserve seat? want VIP line? early access? pay more money. Essentially cutting in front of other people for cash.

Buy food? want extra toppings? bigger sizes? pay more money.

Buy cell phone? want more data usage? pay more money. Am I gonna pay verizon $2.99 for visual voicemail? no, i don't want to. Do I pay more for a large data plan? yes i do, and I don't complain about it because I use a lot of data and need a lot of data.

FFXI is a pretty damned good product for me and if I can experience it better by paying more money, I probably will.

Same as buying mules and dual boxing. I would say paying for the ability to dual box is way more powerful than any wardrobe will be.

$4.00 probably saves me hours and hours of time with inventory management.

Is it annoying that SE isn't being the nice guy and providing it for free? sure. Do I fault them for it? not really.

Is it a game balance changing purchase? personally I don't think so. I may change my tune if they create something that gives you real power for cash.

Anyone would be mad if you could OP yourself with cash, I just don't see this wardrobe as a way to say that SE is a terrible evil company. Maybe in the future they will be, but not now.

If they increased the subscription price by $1.00 or $2.00 for EVERYBODY and gave everybody the new wardrobes and more features, would the public response be different?

Something something something Dark Side.

^how I feel every time I see all the whining in these types of threads.

Let's complain about what might happen later, but rather than enjoy the game until it happens, we'll butthurt now.

Nothing wrong with this model, especially when you factor in:
1. They will have to add storage space/servers for all of that gear, which costs money.
2. This game costs the same as it did when it came out. 14 years ago a 1 bedroom apartment in NJ was 600 bucks.. it's like 900 bucks today.. gas went up 3 times.. and FFXI is still the same price.

If they start adding in fees to win and only way you can win, then I will join you with the pitchforks and torches, for now I'm going to relax and not stress about things that are out of my control.

You guys do realise its an "Optional Fee" right?

On one hand, I kinda need this. My BLU gear alone is around 200 items right now without counting weapons, which stay in my satchel when not in use. That number is not going to decrease any time soon and I'm already passing up on some small things like refresh+1 gear, so like it or not I'll probably need a third wardrobe soon. That's without even considering my RUN gear, which I could put in wardrobe 4 so that I don't have to move gear around while changing jobs anymore.

On the other hand, I already paid for this. To extend on an analogy made above, SE is basically offering us an all-you-can eat buffet and then charging extra for the salad bar. Not sure I'm okay with that. Maybe if it was a small one-time fee, but $2-4 per month? I don't see how that's reasonable.

One only has to look at XIV to see what the cash shop will eventually become with exclusive items, varied boosters, and the obligatory vanity ***. For those who play XIV, imagine having to pay for additional armory space for each equipment slot, instead of just retainers. There would probably be pitchforks and torches due to that game doubling down on job/class exclusive gear. We're already walking down that path with JSE capes from Ambuscade...

The way I see it if you benefit from these for a need, great go for it. However the way I see myself playing is that the more inventory I'm afforded the more garbage I carry around like I need it, when I don't. I'll pass on paid inventory increase, but cheers to those who can justify and need it.

Hmmm, yeah, I'd sooner just purchase another character and pay the monthly fee for that, than pay a monthly fee for 80-160 spaces to store gear. Should have been like unlocking the mog satchel when getting the security token; a one-time thing.

You do realize that's an argument for another day when the times comes right?

Buy it for one month, fill it with stuff you'll never get rid of, then stop paying for it.

I expect the spaghetti will let you keep equipping from it.

This game does need about a dozen more hairstyles per race though that I'd drop a couple bucks to pick from...

My reaction to more hairstyles when the jobs are not balanced:

Mog Wardrobe 3 and 4 <3
but pay 4 € for more zoning lag seems joke ^^

It's been almost a decade and a half. Jobs will never be balanced (could hurry the *** up with 2-hander parity though). I'd rather stop being a clone now.

Glory to the One True God.

How is a cosmetic change going to make people want to keep playing this exactly ? Is having a different color hair or face make the game more enjoyable ?

The way I see it, wardrobe 3 & 4 should have been as a QoL included with the regular monthly sub fee; maybe an incentive with a release of a "history of vanadiel" book or w/e similar to the software token. Resources involved in opening another 80/160 inventory slots should be no more difficult then copy+paste (okay maybe slightly more cause of the spaghetti code). Sure its optional, hell I don't play anywhere near my capacity with what I have now and at this point I have already resided to the fact I just want to complete seeker's and RoV missions to finish out the story and be satisfied, my active FFXIness hasn't been present since the end of abyssea and at this point I'm just leeching along. So I'll never have the need to utilize the extra service.

So this isn't so much whining or anything, I'm just dissapointed and held SE to a higher standard. Sure they're a company and honestly this is a great financial move with the state FFXI's in, maybe a handful of people will get upset and leave but this should be a good revenue boost, especially since the resource cost is going to be little more than the labor work it took to chalk up the idea. The general software market is currently prime to cash in on opportunities like this.

Also kinda funny consoles were the bane of 'inventory remediation' and now that they're gone they adding an extra price for the remediations.

Didn't we already do that with Heavy metal plates and the rift items/marrows/scorias? How about instead of getting stuck with a fee for additional storage and stopping future ***, we stop the *** immediately this time?

Real talk? New and mid-tier players don't see endgame balance changes, but make up the majority of game income. Part of why games seem to focus on cosmetic and visual offerings is because that is far more apparent 'work' towards improving the game than careful tuning and balance changes. Why do you think League of Legends is so successful?

We want moar free ***!

the food i'm buying wasn't made 14 years ago.

I'd still give SE a few bucks for a race change. Dressup exists and mostly covers that issue on my end at least, but sometimes I load as the wrong (original) race on my alt's window until I perform an action.

The reality of this is the majority of dedicated players (not just end game) still devoted to the game, plugged into a steadfast community and continuously pursuing goals aren't going to be phased by this.

As it has been mentioned many times already, hardly anyone is exempt from harsh inventory issues right now. This isn't even just an issue of being able to gear other jobs. Many jobs themselves require multiple sets in order to be recognized as being properly geared for today's end game.

How many screenshots have we seen of someone posting 10 different Herculean or Merlinic sets? In all actuality, each of those sets are most likely serving a specific and useful purpose. So it doesn't take a Masters degree in math to see the value in having access to 160 more inventory spaces.

Should we have to pay for it, though? I don't know. I'm kind of on the fence about it.

I think what irritates me more than anything is I know because I'm fully dedicated to the game still I feel like I'm forced to subscribe to the extra Wardrobes simply because my inventory is hurting really bad as is right now, and it's preventing me from developing other jobs I'd love to play (or jobs my linkshell needs).

Oh my. My experience from other games who had online shops, or were free-to-play and began offering game-changing rewards for real money .. were games that ending up losing their playerbase and don't exist anymore.

I once played a game called Mythos. I loved the hell out of that game and was addicted. It was free to play, but the same week they added an online shop was the week the game lost so many players. No one thought it was fair that you could pay your way through the game. Yes, SE has not offered us 99 Primeval Brews in Reisenjima for the sweet deal of £5 a month ... but what if they do? What if they start charging for game-breaking rewards?

That's what I'm worred about, and I'm guessing that's what others are worried about. I wouldn't have minded if they raised the monthly fee a little bit for everyone and we got the wardrobes and other cool things without any choice in the matter. But the fact it's optional? It means the system will likely expand in the future, and if anyone does buy these ... it will get worse. They will try to squeeze as much money out of us as possible. Once it gets so far, people will see it as a game where real money = game progression, and that's not what FFXI is about. We already have trouble on some of the quieter servers ... so I'm really worried now.

Luckily I only play a few jobs and don't need 4 mog wardrobes. But I feel for those who play 7-8 jobs and continue to struggle. Why should they be paying more per month because they like to play many jobs? While I can get away with it because I only play 3-4? That's the real worry here, and I see why some are angry about it. Those who encourage this "shop" mentality from SE will only damage the game in the long run.

SE has commanded a monthly subscription for 14 years even well beyond the time frame that most MMO's went to free-to-play. Those still highly dedicated to the game aren't going anywhere as a result of this.

That sounds like a terrible idea...they will do it !