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 Quetzalcoatl.Jakey
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By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2023-01-22 17:16:40  
This is what I use, of course swaping in empy +3 feet and obi when conditions are met

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this assumes r25 agwu, empy +3 head can win for some nukes below r25. Empy +3 head of course wins regardless when using Ebullience.
at r30 agwu the agwu hands and legs beat out empy +3 for higher tier nukes
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By Asura.Eiryl 2023-02-16 10:37:20  
(meme of a hoard of zombies coming screaming bis kaustra set and gearswap file to copy)
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By SimonSes 2023-02-16 11:00:45  
Yeah looks like Bumbav25 is one big Kaustra damage check lol.
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By Bahamut.Dajjal 2023-02-16 12:33:42  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
(meme of a hoard of zombies coming screaming bis kaustra set and gearswap file to copy)

Now I'm gonna ask for it even harder!
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By Bahamut.Negan 2023-02-16 12:51:00  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
(meme of a hoard of zombies coming screaming bis kaustra set and gearswap file to copy)
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By Bahamut.Negan 2023-02-16 12:54:39  
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2023-02-16 13:35:26  
To be fair to the zombies, it is really difficult to test Kaustra sets and determine which one has the best damage. Aside from anything else, who's going to open a skillchain for you?!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2023-02-16 13:43:08  
Do we have the exact INT value for v25 bumba? Probably best to plug in the real stats before fully optimizing sets.
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By Asura.Geriond 2023-02-16 16:16:06  
We don't. The cleanest way to discover it is by using Impact on it then using Absorbing Shield and hoping it hits INT (with more people using the better), but testing it requires being able to pop it (or knowing someone willing to pop it for you to test), which is a select few still.

You could also nuke it with an unresisted high tier nuke before and after using Burn and use the spell formulas to see what dINT values result in the percentage difference.
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By Chimerawizard 2023-02-16 17:23:38  
okay, here ya go.
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Kaustra has no mDMG term, so it relies entirely on INT & MAB.
Weather is not guaranteed unlike helix spells.
Suggest all the INT buffs you can stack + a multi-step darkness skillchain and RUN JA's to boost its dmg.

Haven't watched the vid yet, did the SCH do a 100k dmg kaustra? If so they probably had burn, impact, a few comet casts, mab roll, dark shot, 2x int etude, 3x ballad, entrust-int, indi-mab, geo-malaise, rayke & gambit.

Edit, no brd but see a blu for int- mdb-, nice change. sch does a solo 4step skillchain. GG, 81k kaustra. and tp suppress the rest of the time w/ blu? wow.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2023-02-16 17:26:35  
Well here's like a baseline kaustra MB set assuming weather, klimaform and ebullience. It also assumes all r30 ody gear since you are aiming for bumba v25, it also assumes you don't cap INT, kaustra scales very strongly with dINT up until it caps. If INT caps archon ring is an obvious swap. Amongst the more interesting results I had was that the magian dark affinity staff is actually very close if it doesn't cause resist issues and can often win.

I think kaustra still needs obi unlike the helixs but probably should double check its been a long time since I used it much.

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By Bahamut.Negan 2023-02-16 17:28:16  
You guys need to decide on rings!
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By Asura.Toralin 2023-02-16 18:41:51  
No pixie hairpin+1?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2023-02-16 18:47:11  
Ebulience 21% bonus

(and int and macc and mab)
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By Chimerawizard 2023-02-16 19:13:07  
You're going to need Ebullience to hit as high a number as possible. Base potency is +20%, so that's still a major boost. ebul+21, mAcc+61, MAB+51, and INT+38(+11 v pixie) at the cost of -28% dark dmg, is going to be worth.
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By Odin.Lawii 2023-02-16 19:20:00  
Archon Ring is loosing out now?

Arbatel Earring +2 if you can get decent augments on it would be good.... Sadly not easy to get....
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By Chimerawizard 2023-02-16 21:20:19  

Kaustra had a dINT cap at 300, once you get close to cap the archon ring will overtake, just are you hitting that against bumba?
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By Asura.Jokes 2023-02-21 09:50:00  
Tested Kaustra with and without weather obi and can confirm a damage increase with weather obi on (used o sash vs weather obi and the damage was just less than a 10% increase. It was firesday and i had voidstorm II)
 
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By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2023-02-26 19:48:28  
Quetzalcoatl.Jakey said: »
Vaerix said: »
So real talk.

Is Tupsimati worth it?

With AM2 it obviously has some applications, same with AM1. But are those applications worth it for sch who has r25 Bunzi rod?

And yes you have access to myrkr while nuking but I just wonder if that's enough to make a mythic investment.
So I have one and I use it and like it but I don't exactly recommend it for how most people play SCH, I think you really have to play into it's strengths for it to be worthwhile.

The Pros:
1) Myrkr. It is more important for SCH than BLM, you have more Occult Acumen and otherwise you may have to use Seidr Cotehardie unless you are getting a lot of refresh for nuking scenarios.
2) High mag acc, given SCH's lower skills this ends up helping a decent amount
3) Meleeing/Cataclysm/Omniscience/Shattersoul This is how I get capped Cataclysms and being able to drop strong Omnisciences and melee in a pinch even without getting a special subjob is very handy. Shattersoul gives a very helpful debuff. Also fairly often I can get away with meleeing and using ws's with strats to use a lot fewer strats.
The Cons:
1) If you swap weapons a lot it basically wipes out 1 and 3 pros. I still swap for Musa but try to make that like a once every 10min+ thing when I get all the important buffs refreshed.
2) Bunzi can beat it even with AM2 for pure nuke damage as long as It doesn't force you to use Seidr Cotehardie.
3) Its a lot of work/money.
I stand by what I said last time this was asked.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2023-02-26 20:00:39  
Macc:
Tupsimati R15 and Ambu grip (?) 100 macc, 269 macc skill
Bunzi R25 and Ammurapi shield: 88 macc, 255 macc skill, +28 int/mnd

Eh...I'm not so convinced, except maybe with AM1
 
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By Vaerix 2023-02-26 22:27:11  
Odin.Stayfresh said: »
Thanks, I definitely didn’t even look in the thread to see if anyone asked recently.

I figured Bunzi had a high chance of being better anyways. If anything, it looks cool and I like glowing.

:D

Also my Bunzi’s Rod will never have RP on it, especially on this character. And gil is just burning holes in my pockets. That’s not an issue.

Just wondered if it actually had something more than “niche” uses.

Thanks for the answers!

I didn't ask that too recently but yeah I ended up making tupsi due to Jakey's glowing review :-D 0 regrets.
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By Cerberus.Dekar 2023-02-26 23:19:51  
I was messing around against Apex Poxhounds with ML22 SCH/WHM. I was surprised to see these sorts of numbers out of Banish II and the like. All of these are with Rapture on during a MB.



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Here is the set I used. The body is R12 and the legs are R20. The back is also INT+ not MND. I was surprised how much more Banish spells did than Holy/Cure IV. I guess that 50% bonus on Undead is bigger than I thought. The only buffs I had were Storm II/Klimaform.
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By Fenrir.Aladeus 2023-03-12 01:24:07  
uh.. i thought banish did like.. 100 dmg. wtf? o.o
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By Chimerawizard 2023-03-12 04:24:01  
Fenrir.Aladeus said: »
uh.. i thought banish did like.. 100 dmg. wtf? o.o
100k
/1.5(undead TMDA)
/1.2(klimaform boots)
/1.5(daybreak)
/1.25(sch weather, day unaffiliated)
/1.68(rapture head)
/1.35(2step skillchain)
/1.66(magic burst, gifts/MB1/MB2)
/4.96(mab)
-434(magic damage)
1152

damage does seem high. wonder if the undead boost is actually higher than 50%.
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2023-03-12 07:34:57  
With Banish and Cure being light based, wouldn’t Weatherspoon Ring outdo Meta or Freke? If you have it
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2023-03-31 13:06:17  
Just making sure my understanding is correct

Since Kaustra is NOT considered a Helix spell, you can have both Helix and Kaustra on a mob at same time yes?

Also, double checking cuz Wiki says Kaustra Works with Manifestation but helix do not. wondering if anyone has ever used kaustra effectively AoE?

uhm also wouldn't you get more from /pld for casting banish than /whm?

cuz Holy circle? not sure you need it though.

pretty sure weatherspoon would be better. Also with capped recast reduction.. you could double burst banish on the same skillchain :P then again...

Casting time for Holy, banish, and banish 2 or are so quick.. you might be able to burst all 3 off a single 2 step skillchain.
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By Chimerawizard 2023-03-31 13:08:59  
Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »
Just making sure my understanding is correct

Since Kaustra is NOT considered a Helix spell, you can have both Helix and Kaustra on a mob at same time yes?

Also, double checking cuz Wiki says Kaustra Works with Manifestation but helix do not. wondering if anyone has ever used kaustra effectively AoE?
I have used kaustra as an AoE before. Not great. if a mob dies to its DoT while unclaimed you don't get credit. Did it in abyssea days to cleave on sch sometimes when bored, didn't notice at first since I often killed them with one of my repeat casts.

Yes, you can have Helix & Kaustra on a mob at the same time.
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