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 Sylph.Rafaras
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By Sylph.Rafaras 2012-11-26 10:22:53  
Fenrir.Curty said: »
1) Drk
2) Zelus/Armada/AF3/Goading
3) Get the DA+3
4) ^

Thank you Curty.

Another question, can someone post a TP and WS set for a DRK, without including NNI gear. And if I ever get a chance to get NNI gear, which one should I aim for first? Head or hands or legs?
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By Bismarck.Altar 2012-11-26 15:02:57  
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By Sylph.Binckry 2012-11-26 18:45:51  
Bismarck.Altar said: »
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By Fenrir.Curty 2012-11-26 18:55:58  
Body>Legs>Hands>Head>Feet for DRK
Body>Head>Hands>Feet>Legs for WAR

Imo of course.
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By Cerberus.Meatster 2012-11-28 03:39:53  



Optimal without NNI/duplus/meebles gear? 5 Stp atleast on body. Looks like 7hit is about it without phorcys.
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2012-12-07 07:47:13  
What are some good War bodies for Reso atm? I can't use my Ace's and I don't have Phorcys yet. All I have on me atm is Twilight Mail.
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By Bahamut.Asphaar 2012-12-07 08:49:25  
Use Grim Cuirass +1
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2013-02-04 05:19:23  
Since ill use RAg on DRK mainly, and when I use it on war will just be for MS zergs, what TP set should I aim for?
Thot just going with the standard 7hit since if im zerging 99% of the time will be in a situation when Magic/JA haste will be caped and I have lot of buffs...
Something like this?



With occasionaly Atheling, Ravager's Earring, and Portus Collar?
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By Phorcys 2013-02-04 16:31:54  
For ADL and below, use Portus Collar. If you don't have one, use Ravager's Gorget until you do. Anything above ADL, use Rancor Collar. You shouldn't ever need the accuracy from Letalis Mantle so stick with Atheling Mantle. Same deal for Kokou's Earring. Use Ravager's Earring instead.
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2013-02-05 00:15:19  
Imma going to make various sets for acc etc np, also for Armada/Valk.
When I get the *** pages imma use ares legs head hands, but this pages farm sucks, I hate this new salvage farm.
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By itchi508 2013-02-07 07:49:07  
MS^ curious if cavaros will out perform atheling I have not tested yet any input?

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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-02-07 07:58:14  
itchi508 said: »
MS^ curious if cavaros will out perform atheling I have not tested yet any input?


Augemented heca hands for MS up and use pants over ares, only when WC is up?

I don't know I havent dabbled in war too much.

Oh, and moonshade if less than 275 tp.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2013-02-07 08:06:59  
What about augmented Haidate?
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-02-07 08:11:12  
Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
What about augmented Haidate?

That's a good one :x I've never calc'ed out MS gears and I'm at work (that's why i put question mark lol).

I'm working on war SC at home now and this is relevant to my interests
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By itchi508 2013-02-07 08:23:41  
Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
What about augmented Haidate?
Have byakkos have not aug them yet same with hecatombes mittens.
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By itchi508 2013-02-07 08:36:06  
Current set

Anyone no if cavaros mantle will out perform Atheling wile under MS with this build?

Byakkos 4%
Cavaros mantle. 3%
Brave grip. 3%
Hecatombes mitts +1. 4%
Rvg calligae +2. 10%
Total 24%

Going to build this for MS.
Thoughts on this set?


Any advice to improve please input. (Other than Oto+1)
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-02-07 08:40:39  
itchi508 said: »
Anyone no if cavaros mantle will out perform Atheling wile under MS with this build? and or using Augmented Hecatombs mitts and byakkos with it.

Byakkos 4%
Brave grip. 3%
Hecatombes mitts. 2%
Rvg calligae +2. 10%
Total 19%

Thoughts on this set?

I would think so. 3% crit damage vs 3% DA. The 3% crit is going to affect every hit while the da will "probably" only matter on one (not even factoring in diminishing returns on more DA). If you really need the attack you can find other places to put it.
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2013-02-16 05:27:15  


This is what I use when I have STR buffs of some kind...
When no str buffs should use Avant +1 legs or Ares+1

Cavaros Mantle all the way over Atheling, most of the times u use MS/Reso means ur zerging, and when u zerg ur suppossed to be fullbuffed etc and u dont need that 20 attack or at least that 20 attack wont beat 3% crit dmg. Oh and TPBonus Moonshade over Kokou.
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-04-05 00:36:52  
ItemSet 295419
ItemSet 295421ws (karieyh pants, xiah doesnt recognize them yet so put in ogier's for completion sake)

thought id share, 7 hit calculated with 3/5 reso landing

not gotten around to phos, dont play war enough
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-04-05 00:59:25  
ItemSet 293453

This is my current 6hit WAR/SAM build assuming Acc isn't an issue, no regain.

Swapping out for this 7-hit when Acc is needed

ItemSet 293454

I'm messing around with the new stuff atm, will probably find a space in something other than WS sets.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-04-05 01:17:19  
if you do legion frequently, you can rock belatz pearl, goading belt, duplus over ravagers/bullwhip/rose and gain 1 stp, 2 da, 75 hp, 2 dex, 3 acc, elemental resistance at no loss without having to obtain anything difficult
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-04-05 01:25:10  
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
if you do legion frequently, you can rock belatz pearl, goading belt, duplus over ravagers/bullwhip/rose and gain 1 stp, 2 da, 75 hp, 2 dex, 3 acc, elemental resistance at no loss without having to obtain anything difficult

Just started doing Legion finally, using Ambuscade, Belatz, Pole in my legion set, but my Blurpleberk is STP4/DA3, so I can't get away with Orb post embrava nerf.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2013-04-05 10:07:02  
What is the consensus of 7 hit vs 6 hit?

ItemSet 269732
7 Hit and using Ravager's when Restraint

ItemSet 295448
6 Hit and not using Ravager's when Restraint

Plugging in to the spreadsheets it is looking like the 6 hit pulls ahead even when Restraint is active. (Easily wins with Restraint down.)
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-04-05 12:07:08  
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
What is the consensus of 7 hit vs 6 hit?

ItemSet 269732
7 Hit and using Ravager's when Restraint

ItemSet 295448
6 Hit and not using Ravager's when Restraint

Plugging in to the spreadsheets it is looking like the 6 hit pulls ahead even when Restraint is active. (Easily wins with Restraint down.)

if you can cap acc with it, 6 hit wins even without the bonus from +2 hands.
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-04-05 12:14:34  
i cant remember why but i thought we had thrown out 6 hit for war for some reason

meh @ digging in my storage slip for the hands... might just throw together a 6 hit and play with it, keep my base 7 hit for vw builds

what considerations for reso stp do you plan?
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By Ragnarok.Fasaga 2013-04-05 13:04:37  
Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
i cant remember why but i thought we had thrown out 6 hit for war for some reason

meh @ digging in my storage slip for the hands... might just throw together a 6 hit and play with it, keep my base 7 hit for vw builds

what considerations for reso stp do you plan?
Yes, 6 hit was thrown out, if I were to build a rag (depends on new content) these would be the builds I would use
Res up -
ItemSet 295472
Res down-
ItemSet 295470
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By Ragnarok.Azryel 2013-04-05 13:07:52  
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
ItemSet 295448
6 Hit and not using Ravager's when Restraint

Am I doing the math wrong? This looks like 99 TP after 6 hits (factoring in max Store TP +6 on Hauberk)... Unless you're counting WS (not sure TP return offhand) and THEN 5 hits to reach 100?

I would love to get out of my WAR/SAM 7-hit...
ItemSet 275995

I have STP+6 on Hauberk, and I have Ogier's Gauntlets and Rose Strap available... It just looks like it's a tiny bit shy of a 6-hit.
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By Phoenix.Suji 2013-04-05 13:34:50  
Ragnarok.Azryel said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
ItemSet 295448
6 Hit and not using Ravager's when Restraint

Am I doing the math wrong? This looks like 99 TP after 6 hits (factoring in max Store TP +6 on Hauberk)... Unless you're counting WS (not sure TP return offhand) and THEN 5 hits to reach 100?

I would love to get out of my WAR/SAM 7-hit...
ItemSet 275995

I have STP+6 on Hauberk, and I have Ogier's Gauntlets and Rose Strap available... It just looks like it's a tiny bit shy of a 6-hit.
You probably forgot to factor in the 5 Store TP during Resolution (Rose Strap + Brutal Earring).

Edit: Just realized you kind of said that, but to be clear, WS+5hits is the normal way that "6-hit" is to be interpreted. How many hits you want to rely on from Resolution is up to you, but I assume at least 4 hits personally.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2013-04-05 13:37:40  
Phoenix.Suji said: »
Ragnarok.Azryel said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
ItemSet 295448
6 Hit and not using Ravager's when Restraint

Am I doing the math wrong? This looks like 99 TP after 6 hits (factoring in max Store TP +6 on Hauberk)... Unless you're counting WS (not sure TP return offhand) and THEN 5 hits to reach 100?

I would love to get out of my WAR/SAM 7-hit...
ItemSet 275995

I have STP+6 on Hauberk, and I have Ogier's Gauntlets and Rose Strap available... It just looks like it's a tiny bit shy of a 6-hit.
You probably forgot to factor in the 5 Store TP during Resolution (Rose Strap + Brutal Earring).
10 Karieyh sollerets
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By Phoenix.Suji 2013-04-05 13:39:00  
ooh, forgot about those. I've been lazy and didn't get them yet. :(
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