The Beast Within -- A Guide To Blue Mage

Hi guys.

Mimesis. Good sword or no?

No.

It's a pretty decent 119 offhand, but is generally worse than Anahera (or Bura if you have an Uson to mainhand). Looking at what you have right now, it wouldn't be a poor choice (and in your case, it would be mainhanded).

Uson isn't even the king of BLU swords anymore.

Alluvian Sword with WSD Augments etc win.

Seems like it would be cheaper to throw some friends into delve and/or AA HM fights. :p

I mean, I figured if you could do that you would have done it already.

I can, I'm just lazy. <_<

I'll probably wrangle some people up for one of them later this week.

Thanks

because it's listed as the base recast, not the recast after reductions. why would I list the recast of the spell after some indeterminate amount of haste/fast cast when not everyone will have the same value of haste/fast cast every time they cast the spell



is it? i've never managed to get skirmish sword to beat uson with any augments on paper or with spreadsheets. delay is too high, and not high enough to facilitate a hit build. effectively comes down to trading 7STR 39delay for 7D 0-5 ATK 6-11 ACC and 4-6% WSD (not sure how high WSD goes, I assume 6% like everything else). DA and Crit ones definitely aren't good. maybe I'm not tweaking sets as far as they can go, i haven't had any time to do lengthy comparisons.

I put one into the spreadsheet with extremely generous (read: impossible) augments and it still wasn't better.

Dude.


Quadraatic Continuum is listed as a 31 second recast, but when I cast it, the recast is 12 seconds.

Sinker Drill is listed as a 75second recast but when I cast it, the recast is 6 seconds.

Does not compute.

go cast it with no gear and no buffs, record the recast time from the spell menu. elementary level testing. if base recast is less than 75 seconds then it was a typo on SE's part.

The only way I got it even close was with misers and sam rolls in addition to all the other standard buffs, but us on/bura was still ahead.

6 second recast is impossible based on what we know about recast, but OK.

I took off all gear and buffs and casted naked with only Ionis. It was like a 12 second recast. Either SE goofed or it was changed at the last second.

might be looking at it from an SB spam only perspective, but even then it is probably barely applicable, and I still don't agree with use SB and nothing else or bust; you lose damage that way for an ignorable level of self sustainability (unless running with the world's worst WHMs).

also, someone else who isn't ophannus go do the recast test please. 12 second recast on sinker drill is so beyond "this sounds wrong" that I can't even take it seriously without a second opinion. I expect maybe 30 seconds, 12 sounds extremely low when compared to thrashing assault.

Either way, Sinker Drill is stronger, faster recast and the same MP as quadratic. Pretty nice. Seems almost erroneous...?

kay someone else corroborates with the 12 second thing, so my apologies. that doesn't seem right, why is it such a low recast compared to other heavy hitters

i can almost swear it wasn't always that low, i remember having to wait for recast once or twice if I forgot to reapply haste while testing for fTP/WSC

I'm getting 20 seconds. Took off all gear, got rid of Fast Cast job traits, no Ionis, etc.

If it was a 75s recast, could I do this, without haste gear or buffs? It was like a 16s recast with only Ionis. Ionis gives Haste and Fast Cast, so could seemingly be ~20 seconds? With Haste II and 26% gear haste and Ionis, was a 5 second recast according to Timers.

hopefully they lower the recast on thrashing assault then, it makes 0 sense to have sinker drill so low with that one so high. 33% the recast time on an even stronger spell with better SC properties

It makes for a very good Azure Lore burn spell between Glutinous Darts. The recast should stay, if I want to burn all my MP by chain casting Sinker Drill, why not let us? It's still pretty expensive, most BLUs have ~1000-1100 MP in TP gear, so it's not like we could get off very many of these.

Thrashing Assault is even more expensive than Sinker Drill (and a bit less powerful too) in addition to being a different damage type, so it still makes no sense. 20s vs 60s is a huge difference, especially when 75s was written multiple times as its recast. Something is amiss.

Quadrastrike says hi. Continuum is less mp, stronger, faster recast and better SC properties han Quadrastrike.

Uh, the closest casts are 17 seconds apart and you have 2 brd and a rdm trust, so we can only assume that you have near capped recast. You had at least 1 march, based on the chat log. That seems more to confirm the 75 second base recast than dismiss it. It's definitely possible the recast is mis-reported, and others have said the same thing, but either you don't understand how recast works or are being purposefully contrary.

Quadrastrike had a reason to be more expensive, thrashing assault doesn't

I had Ballad Ballad March Madrigal and my songs all wore off before the Sinker Drills were cast.

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And besides that it isn't even comparable.

Thrashing Assault: 32%STR 32%DEX 1.75~2.0fTP @ 150; costs 119MP and has a 60s recast

Sinker Drill: 100%DEX 1.5~1.75fTP @ 150; costs 91MP and has a 20s recast

30%~ increase in MP cost, 66% increase in recast time, fairly significant average damage difference due to the extra hit and higher WSC on Sinker Drill. Evidence suggests that Sinker Drill has an attack bonus and thrashing doesn't, but I never got to finish.



Quad. Continuum: 32%STR 32%VIT 1.5fTP @ 150; costs 81MP and has a 31.75s recast

Quadrastrike: 30%STR 1.1875fTP 33% Crit rate @ 150; costs 98MP and has a 42.5s recast

17%~ increase in MP cost, 25%~ increase in recast time, nearly negligible avg damage difference when considering crits (at the time especially). Quadrastrike wasn't a bad spell, but it required TP to be exceptional. Its bit of extra cost was for the fact that it had the potential to be much stronger on higher level targets than comparable spells due to crits.



if you compare these two and say they're the same situation then lol.

Going by the screenshot, march wears AFTER the first sinker, so it would have affected the recast, a possible 2nd march isn't in the log at all, your gear and current buffs aren't shown at all, and it's still 17 seconds between casts. Recast reduction can reach at least 80% (there is some debate if that is the actual cap) 75 second base recast with 80% reduction is 15 seconds. I'm not saying that your screenshot proves it's 75 seconds, but it sure doesn't disprove it.

Any other requests? I can do more tests later, but these Twitheyrms hit me for 600 when naked so it's quite dangerous lol.