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By Odin.Kuroganashi 2018-10-24 17:06:15  
clearlyamule said: »
are you meaning the stat that says it boosts a specific ws? because yeah that's obviously not working on all. If you mean the generic wsd stat it certainly does

Nope, I mean any and all WSD+ armor not working at all XD

Tested on my Expiacion (not making a different after the update where before it was)

Before Expiacion DMG: 18,000~25,000
After Expiacion DMG: 5,000~11,000

AVG WS is now between 7~8 K

Before was between 20~22 K
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By clearlyamule 2018-10-24 17:07:25  
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Why does BG Wiki say that Sentinel Schzero stops ??? Needles when it does not? I just tested it with 2 chars and 4 trusts.
Can you be a tad more specific? What mob, how +schzero gear, how much dt/pdt on each and how much dmg each took
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By clearlyamule 2018-10-24 17:09:21  
Odin.Kuroganashi said: »
clearlyamule said: »
are you meaning the stat that says it boosts a specific ws? because yeah that's obviously not working on all. If you mean the generic wsd stat it certainly does

Nope, I mean any and all WSD+ armor not working at all XD

Tested on my Expiacion (not making a different after the update where before it was)

Before Expiacion DMG: 18,000~25,000
After Expiacion DMG: 5,000~11,000

AVG WS is now between 7~8 K

Before was between 20~22 K
So let me get this straight your logic is because you think damage went down after the update must be weaponskill damage not working on armor? Also how has no one else noticed this over the last month or so since the last update?
By Odin.Kuroganashi 2018-10-24 17:12:15  
clearlyamule said: »
Odin.Kuroganashi said: »
clearlyamule said: »
are you meaning the stat that says it boosts a specific ws? because yeah that's obviously not working on all. If you mean the generic wsd stat it certainly does

Nope, I mean any and all WSD+ armor not working at all XD

Tested on my Expiacion (not making a different after the update where before it was)

Before Expiacion DMG: 18,000~25,000
After Expiacion DMG: 5,000~11,000

AVG WS is now between 7~8 K

Before was between 20~22 K
So let me get this straight your logic is because you think damage went down after the update must be weaponskill damage not working on armor?
My logic is, I been testing with different armor sets for past 3 hrs

SETS with WSD+ are not doing more DMG than other sets, where before update they were...............

Explain to me how my SET that hasn't changed before or after is doing ***DMG now, and how is that not enough proof ?

Just go out and test yourself and tell me what you find.

I am not here to win argument, here to ask if others are experiencing the same issue as I have experienced today for last 3+ hrs.

Thank you for your attention.
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-10-24 17:14:24  
My multi hit WSs with WSDMG doing the same now as they were before this month's update.
By Odin.Kuroganashi 2018-10-24 17:17:03  
Asura.Geriond said: »
My multi hit WSs with WSDMG doing the same now as they were before this month's update.

okay, how many WS did you do and have you pharse + wsavg ? Curious to know that cuz been doing that on multiple jobs for a bit now, 3hrs on BLU 2 THF ETC............
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-10-24 17:20:11  
1 Asuran with no WSD

1 Asuran with WSD

Test concluded
By Odin.Kuroganashi 2018-10-24 17:23:11  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
1 Asuran with no WSD

1 Asuran with WSD

Test concluded
Results?
By Odin.Kuroganashi 2018-10-24 17:26:15  
BLU (Master Tizona/Almace)

CDC Normal SET: AVG 9,805

CDC WSD+ SET: AVG: 9,377

CDC WSD++ SET AVG: 6,766

Expiacion WSD+ (Normal set): Avg: 9,500
(Expiacion WSD+ Normal set before update) Avg: 21,978

This are #s from SB so not eye-balling it.

not sure how to explain this........... just ain't sure guys, but as you can see, WSD+ are not doing more than non-WSD and before update was higher DMG than its now.

THF (NON-master)

Exenterator WSD: AVG: 4,517
Exenterator Normal: AVG: 6,755
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By Foxfire 2018-10-24 17:27:15  
Tested trueflight w/ ishvara and without, wsd works fine.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mithlas 2018-10-24 17:28:10  
from SB?

Maybe they nerfed it? Lol
By Odin.Kuroganashi 2018-10-24 17:31:34  
Quetzalcoatl.Mithlas said: »
from SB?

Maybe they nerfed it? Lol

Could, but its odd.........

eyeballing normally used to do WS of 15~18 K (now doing 5~8 K)
High spikes of 22 K (Now doing 11 K)
Lowest wiffs were like 14 K (now 4 K)

they could've nerf but tested more than 1 or 2 WS (and for a while too, with different sets of armor)

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Confused about #s and how or why its doing such a huge difference.
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By clearlyamule 2018-10-24 17:33:34  
Odin.Kuroganashi said: »
BLU (Master Tizona/Almace)

CDC Normal SET: AVG 9,805

CDC WSD+ SET: AVG: 9,377

CDC WSD++ SET AVG: 6,766

Expiacion WSD+ (Normal set): Avg: 9,500
(Expiacion WSD+ Normal set before update) Avg: 21,978

This are #s from SB so not eye-balling it.

not sure how to explain this........... just ain't sure guys, but as you can see, WSD+ are not doing more than non-WSD and before update was higher DMG than its now.

THF (NON-master)

Exenterator WSD: AVG: 4,517
Exenterator Normal: AVG: 6,755
Explanation your sets have other stats on them that matter. Done

Also what update are you talking about because wasn't it the last update everyone was talking about how wsd all of a sudden applying to all hits or was it the one before? If the one before then maybe they made it only first like it's always been
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-10-24 17:42:47  
Odin.Kuroganashi said: »
Asura.Geriond said: »
My multi hit WSs with WSDMG doing the same now as they were before this month's update.

okay, how many WS did you do and have you pharse + wsavg ? Curious to know that cuz been doing that on multiple jobs for a bit now, 3hrs on BLU 2 THF ETC............
Over 10 hours since the update, and I'm getting numbers that are literally impossible without WSDMG applying.
By Odin.Kuroganashi 2018-10-24 17:44:39  
clearlyamule said: »
Odin.Kuroganashi said: »
BLU (Master Tizona/Almace)

CDC Normal SET: AVG 9,805

CDC WSD+ SET: AVG: 9,377

CDC WSD++ SET AVG: 6,766

Expiacion WSD+ (Normal set): Avg: 9,500
(Expiacion WSD+ Normal set before update) Avg: 21,978

This are #s from SB so not eye-balling it.

not sure how to explain this........... just ain't sure guys, but as you can see, WSD+ are not doing more than non-WSD and before update was higher DMG than its now.

THF (NON-master)

Exenterator WSD: AVG: 4,517
Exenterator Normal: AVG: 6,755
Explanation your sets have other stats on them that matter. Done

Also what update are you talking about because wasn't it the last update everyone was talking about how wsd all of a sudden applying to all hits or was it the one before? If the one before then maybe they made it only first like it's always been
Since the update last night, my WS DMG went down, not looking for a smart *** answer, I am looking for an Intelligent Answer if anybody else is experiencing the same changes.
By Odin.Kuroganashi 2018-10-24 17:47:04  
Asura.Geriond said: »
Odin.Kuroganashi said: »
Asura.Geriond said: »
My multi hit WSs with WSDMG doing the same now as they were before this month's update.

okay, how many WS did you do and have you pharse + wsavg ? Curious to know that cuz been doing that on multiple jobs for a bit now, 3hrs on BLU 2 THF ETC............
Over 10 hours since the update, and I'm getting numbers that are literally impossible without WSDMG applying.

on which WS and what job? if you don't mind sharing

so far tested: BLU THF (DNC) so far, not happy with results :(

and do you have Dyna (D) Clear?
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-10-24 17:50:42  
Mostly Insurgency on DRK, some with Resolution. Yes, I have clear.
By Odin.Kuroganashi 2018-10-24 17:52:53  
Asura.Geriond said: »
Mostly Insurgency on DRK, some with Resolution. Yes, I have clear.

ahhhh, thanks for that answer,

I do not have clear, maybe clear is a MUST so WSD affects it.

Still, my WSD armor on BLU is same as before, but my WS DMG is doing shitty now compared with before, Trying to understand (Not trying to be a pain or anything guys, plz don't misunderstand me).
 
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By Pantafernando 2018-10-24 18:39:42  
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Ragnarok.Lockfort said: »

DirectX said: »
Why does BG Wiki say that Sentinel Schzero stops ??? Needles when it does not? I just tested it with 2 chars and 4 trusts.
Where at?
Reisenjima. No Schzero+. My two chars took 4800 and 5000 damage roughly. One shotted me, of course. I can kill it before ??? needles but wanted to test it because it didn't sound right to me.

Scherzo mitigates severe dmg. But it means nothing if even mitigated it deals more than your HP. ??? needle in particular can deal over 50k dmg so you just had bad luck you got a spiked ??? needle, i think.

"Blinking" severe dmg is migawari.
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By Shiva.Francisco 2018-10-24 18:52:09  
For those that dual box:

What resolutions would you recommend for optimal viewing pleasure?

My desktop resolution is 1920x1080, tried two windows at half those numbers (so 1/4th of screen, was way too small) but I’m not sure having both characters full screen is optimal either. Still very new to this, and obviously everyone is different in their preference... but open to suggestions.

Also, is there a way to command one character from another when dual boxing, say through a plugin/console command?

Also, also, is there a way to prevent the chatlogs from getting jumbled up with one another?
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By Pantafernando 2018-10-24 18:57:17  
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For those that dual box:

What resolutions would you recommend for optimal viewing pleasure?

My desktop resolution is 1920x1080, tried two windows at half those numbers (so 1/4th of screen, was way too small) but I’m not sure having both characters full screen is optimal either. Still very new to this, and obviously everyone is different in their preference... but open to suggestions.

Also, is there a way to command one character from another when dual boxing, say through a plugin/console command?

Also, also, is there a way to prevent the chatlogs from getting jumbled up with one another?

Either windower and ashita have tools to command (at some degree) another char just focusing one char through the use of sending comands (for example, sending to chars /follow main or /ma "fire" <bt>).

For anything else, the alt tab quickly change chars.
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By Ragnarok.Lockfort 2018-10-24 19:16:11  
Shiva.Francisco said: »
For those that dual box:

What resolutions would you recommend for optimal viewing pleasure?

My desktop resolution is 1920x1080, tried two windows at half those numbers (so 1/4th of screen, was way too small) but I’m not sure having both characters full screen is optimal either. Still very new to this, and obviously everyone is different in their preference... but open to suggestions.

Also, is there a way to command one character from another when dual boxing, say through a plugin/console command?

Also, also, is there a way to prevent the chatlogs from getting jumbled up with one another?

I'm pretty satisfied with 1440x810. For windower there's send, autoexec. And iirc, there is the sandbox plugin to prevent jumbling of chatlog between different characters.
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By clearlyamule 2018-10-24 19:30:33  
Odin.Kuroganashi said: »
Since the update last night, my WS DMG went down, not looking for a smart *** answer, I am looking for an Intelligent Answer if anybody else is experiencing the same changes.
Here's an intelligent answer... there was no update last night. So I'm gunna say on all your claims POIDH
 
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-10-24 19:34:41  
Shiva.Francisco said: »
stuff

you should try to get it together.
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By clearlyamule 2018-10-24 20:21:07  
Here we go. Super easy test that eliminates all other variables besides wsd.

Rng with machine crossbow (18 dmg with fstr2 cap of 20), quelling bolt (145 damage), 255 str (so enough to ensure I cap fstr on a weapon like that), 332 agi. For the first no wsd for the second 10% no changes in any other stats. 300% tp for each using fully merited last stand and geo for fury and frailty and dia 2 and using berserk to ensure I cap pdif and no pdif modifiers against mid level sheep right outside of aoudlin.

expected no wsd= (18+20+145+332*.85)*4.0*3.5*2=13020








expected w/ 10% wsd on both hits= (18+20+145+332*.85)*4.0*3.5*2 *1.1=14322





Maths out perfectly
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By Staleyx 2018-10-24 20:45:00  
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For those that dual box:

What resolutions would you recommend for optimal viewing pleasure?

My desktop resolution is 1920x1080, tried two windows at half those numbers (so 1/4th of screen, was way too small) but I’m not sure having both characters full screen is optimal either. Still very new to this, and obviously everyone is different in their preference... but open to suggestions.

Also, is there a way to command one character from another when dual boxing, say through a plugin/console command?

Also, also, is there a way to prevent the chatlogs from getting jumbled up with one another?


I have mainscreen at 1080 then each additional person on a 800x600 window I can tab thru using controller.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-10-24 21:00:16  
When I only 2boxed I put one in the top left and one in the bottom right, overlapping maybe 20%

Super convenient, you can tell which screen you're on because the overlap, and it doesnt cover anything important. you can see your hp(1) on the screen of (2)

That's like... 3/4 of max res on both so 1500x800 give or take

Then when you get better at it you can run them full screen
 
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