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 Quetzalcoatl.Urat
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By Quetzalcoatl.Urat 2011-07-11 13:26:51  
"The effect of the dancer job ability Climactic Flourish now also affects weapon skills."

Thoughts? Predictions? Hopes? Dreams? Skepticisms?

Bring em out while we dancers eagerly await what could be yet another epic buff to SE's love child.

Personally I predict SE will have *** up and make it not only crit on non critting wses, but crit all hits of the ws. This will be followed by dancer's dropping HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE OP dancing edges. Immediately following the Epeen posts on the interwebs SE will emergency maint nerf climactic flourish.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-07-11 13:29:11  
Quetzalcoatl.Urat said:
Bring em out while we dancers eagerly await what could be yet another epic buff to SE's love child.
Sadly, I think SE considers anything non-war or non-mnk more like their prom night dumpster baby at best ; ;
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-07-11 13:31:16  
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said:
Quetzalcoatl.Urat said:
Bring em out while we dancers eagerly await what could be yet another epic buff to SE's love child.
Sadly, I think SE considers anything non-war or non-mnk more like their prom night dumpster baby at best ; ;

Don't forget WHM~
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By BorealisV2 2011-07-11 13:31:40  
Sweet Jesus I hope this means what I think it does.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-07-11 14:13:24  
WHAT
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By Carbuncle.Flionheart 2011-07-11 14:15:41  
Friend just tested this, did 3500 with Rudras

it works :D
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By Bahamut.Autobot 2011-07-11 14:19:50  
i tried this with different ws's

evisceration 2206 and 2325 no noticable difference

dancing edge 1716

rudra's 2845 big difference

no food or anything special used.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-11 14:20:59  
Does it cause critical hits on all hits of a WS? I can't log on yet.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-11 14:21:55  
Bahamut.Autobot said:
i tried this with different ws's

evisceration 2206 and 2325 no noticable difference

dancing edge 1716

rudra's 2845 big difference

no food or anything special used.
Looks like just the first hit still, just includes all WS instead of ones that normally crit. But my DE normally do close to that amount not critting, so I wonder how much I can do with it now.
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By Bahamut.Autobot 2011-07-11 14:27:44  
its defintely not all hits, it doesn't wear off when i use evisceration or any other weaponskill....

not as exciting as i originally hoped, but it gives climactic and rudra's purpose now on dnc.

so much for needing striking flourish.
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By Asura.Atharia 2011-07-11 14:33:25  
For each Finishing Move consumed, the first attack of one attack round or the first hit of any weaponskill that states "Chance of critical hit varies with TP." (Evisceration, Backhand Blow, Vorpal Blade, etc.) will be a guaranteed critical hit, to a maximum of five combined rounds and/or weaponskills.

So WS's like Evisceration may get a minor boost if you're Crit rate is low enough to even see a diff.

But 1 hit ws's like Rudra's = HELLO DAMAGE!
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-07-11 14:40:07  


That was in TP gear, not WS gear, because I don't have Shark Bite macro'd.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Urat 2011-07-11 14:48:13  
Atmas? Looks like I need to get myself Sanguine scythe now D:
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-07-11 14:49:03  
Quetzalcoatl.Urat said:
Atmas? Looks like I need to get myself Sanguine scythe now D:

Razed Ruins, Gnarled Horn, Sanguine Scythe
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By Nabis 2011-07-11 14:51:51  
ushould have used Apoc maybe get a triple att on that forced crt :D

Edit : DE onry now?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-11 14:54:44  
So now that the tiara+2 has a use in regards to climactic, is it like the casaque where it needs to be on the duration, or take it off after the JA has gone off?
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-07-11 14:56:38  
Nabis said:
ushould have used Apoc maybe get a triple att on that forced crt :D

Edit : DE onry now?

20% more damage 100% of the time is better than Triple attack 15% of the time, IMO.

The 2nd/3rd hits of that forced crit wouldn't be critical.

Edit: DE still does significantly less damage than even Shark Bite, now. CF only works on the first hit.

CF only needs to be worn at activation.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-11 14:59:05  
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said:
Nabis said:
ushould have used Apoc maybe get a triple att on that forced crt :D

Edit : DE onry now?

20% more damage 100% of the time is better than Triple attack 15% of the time, IMO.

The 2nd/3rd hits of that forced crit wouldn't be critical.

Edit: DE still does significantly less damage than even Shark Bite, now. CF only works on the first hit.

CF only needs to be worn at activation.
So you can take the tiara off after the JA buff is up, and swap in Aias for WS? Also, the hell does it even do for climactic, wiki doesn't have much info at all. And I never bothered to do test myself because the JA used to suck balls.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-07-11 15:02:12  
Gives +1 forced Critical Hit to Climactic Flourish and adds a 20% damage boost to the forced critical hits.

---Source, BGWiki

Edit: I think it might be worth testing to see if the tiara does actually need to be worn for the 20% CAB, although it certainly adds the +1 crit if you take it off.
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By Nabis 2011-07-11 15:03:17  
add 1 extra swing to the 5.
increases crt dmg of 1st hit of att round

Edit : beat :/
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-11 15:03:51  
Good to know, thanks.
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By Purpleeyes 2011-07-11 15:03:51  
Here's a SS of my Rudra's(lolWoEVersion)with climactic up.



Edit: yeah lolbird but still, I thought it was nice.
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By Bahamut.Autobot 2011-07-11 15:08:42  
just for poo's and laughs anyone try this with viper bite? obviously its going to be weak, but again for poo's and laughs.

Now if we could only do both climactic and striking...
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-07-11 15:10:45  
I did lots of 500-700 dmg viper bites while doing Fusetto trial with Striking Flourish.
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By Shiva.Johneblaze 2011-07-11 15:18:25  
show some outside abby damage please, anything hits hard w/ atma.
Also please show/state damage prior to update or w/out CF up.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-07-11 15:19:14  
Shiva.Johneblaze said:
show some outside abby damage please, anything hits hard w/ atma

Tell that to Dancing Edge.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-07-11 16:53:34  
im not entirely sure i understand the benefit of climax compared to striking, can someone clarify this for me?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-11 16:54:30  
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said:
im not entirely sure i understand the benefit of climax compared to striking, can someone clarify this for me?
50% crit rate and a double attack vs 100% crit rate with 20% increased crit damage.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-07-11 16:55:03  
at the cost of all your steps still?
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-07-11 16:56:32  
Ramuh.Austar said:
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said:
im not entirely sure i understand the benefit of climax compared to striking, can someone clarify this for me?
50% crit rate and a double attack vs 100% crit rate with 20% increased crit damage.

climactic also has a 1:30 recast while striking has a 2:00 recast
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