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 Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-11 16:56:46  
Unfortunately.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-07-11 17:00:22  
i'll test it out when i get on later

im not sure how i feel about losing a chance to make a skillchain with it

striking -> rudra -> reverse -> evisceration -> darkness

climax -> rudra -> crit 5x
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-07-11 17:05:31  
I do this:
Evisceration -> Reverse Flourish -> Step -> Climactic -> Rudra's

Trash monsters in Dynamis don't have enough HP. I need to go to Abyssea and use an NM.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-11 17:06:40  
Lakshmi.Byrth said:
I do this:
Evisceration -> Reverse Flourish -> Step -> Climactic -> Rudra's

Trash monsters in Dynamis don't have enough HP. I need to go to Abyssea and use an NM.
For those without Rudra's is this even worth *** with or is just spamming evisceration the way to go still?
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-07-11 17:09:25  
Spam Evisceration for sure, or Dancing Edge outside Abyssea. It still only lets the first hit crit.
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2011-07-11 17:18:27  
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said:
i'll test it out when i get on later

im not sure how i feel about losing a chance to make a skillchain with it

striking -> rudra -> reverse -> evisceration -> darkness

climax -> rudra -> crit 5x


couldn't you still climax > step > rudra > reverse > evis ?


(kekeke tell me more about your feelings on climax nini =o?)


*edit* i just saw that sam got a wild flourish ability so they can solo three way sc now... WTF SE?
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-07-11 17:27:27  
Okay, some clarification:
* The damage bonus of Charis Tiara +2 is separate from Critical Attack Bonus, which is good for us.
* The Tiara does have to be worn when the hits are landing in order to maintain the Damage+20%.
* Now we can use Loki's Kaftan during Rudra's for a larger TP return and +5% crit damage.

The downsides:
* We can DA on the first hit, but we cannot Critical Hit it, similar to Sneak Attack.

* lol4 hour maintenance.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-11 17:33:09  
Lakshmi.Byrth said:
Okay, some clarification:
* The damage bonus of Charis Tiara +2 is separate from Critical Attack Bonus, which is good for us.
* The Tiara does have to be worn when the hits are landing in order to maintain the Damage+20%.
* Now we can use Loki's Kaftan during Rudra's for a larger TP return and +5% crit damage.

The downsides:
* We can DA on the first hit, but we cannot Critical Hit it, similar to Sneak Attack.

* lol4 hour maintenance.
How do I lock tiara in with spellcast if climactic is active?
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-07-11 17:35:10  
Ramuh.Austar said:
Lakshmi.Byrth said:
Okay, some clarification:
* The damage bonus of Charis Tiara +2 is separate from Critical Attack Bonus, which is good for us.
* The Tiara does have to be worn when the hits are landing in order to maintain the Damage+20%.
* Now we can use Loki's Kaftan during Rudra's for a larger TP return and +5% crit damage.

The downsides:
* We can DA on the first hit, but we cannot Critical Hit it, similar to Sneak Attack.

* lol4 hour maintenance.
How do I lock tiara in with spellcast if climactic is active?
<if type="Weaponskill">
<if buffactive="Climactic Flourish">
<action type="equip" when=precast set="YourWSSetHere">
<head>Tiara Thing</head>
</action>
<action type="precastdelay" delay=".4" />
</if>
<elseif>
<action type="equip" when=precast set="YourWSSetHere" />
</elseif>
</if>
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-07-11 17:36:48  
I use
<if buffactive="Climactic Flourish">
<action type="Equip" When="PreCast" set="CFRudraGear$_Aby" />
</if>

And then I made CFRudraGear_Aby and CFRudraGear_Norm sets.
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By Leviathan.Alkalinejoe 2011-07-11 17:43:47  
I just use this.

<if BuffActive="Climactic Flourish">
<equip when="idle|engaged|resting|precast|midcast|aftercast">
<head lock="t">Charis Tiara +2</head>
</equip>
</if>
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By Shiva.Khimaira 2011-07-11 17:48:09  
Quetzalcoatl.Urat said:
"The effect of the dancer job ability Climactic Flourish now also affects weapon skills."

Thoughts? Predictions? Hopes? Dreams? Skepticisms?

Bring em out while we dancers eagerly await what could be yet another epic buff to SE's love child.

Personally I predict SE will have *** up and make it not only crit on non critting wses, but crit all hits of the ws. This will be followed by dancer's dropping HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE OP dancing edges. Immediately following the Epeen posts on the interwebs SE will emergency maint nerf climactic flourish.

No real point, given that Striking Flourish force crits with Empy +1/+2 body.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-11 17:48:57  
Shiva.Khimaira said:
Quetzalcoatl.Urat said:
"The effect of the dancer job ability Climactic Flourish now also affects weapon skills."

Thoughts? Predictions? Hopes? Dreams? Skepticisms?

Bring em out while we dancers eagerly await what could be yet another epic buff to SE's love child.

Personally I predict SE will have *** up and make it not only crit on non critting wses, but crit all hits of the ws. This will be followed by dancer's dropping HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE OP dancing edges. Immediately following the Epeen posts on the interwebs SE will emergency maint nerf climactic flourish.

No real point, given that Striking Flourish force crits with Empy +1/+2 body.
Striking flourish isn't 100% crit chance though, or crit damage.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-07-11 17:49:03  
Shiva.Khimaira said:
Quetzalcoatl.Urat said:
"The effect of the dancer job ability Climactic Flourish now also affects weapon skills."

Thoughts? Predictions? Hopes? Dreams? Skepticisms?

Bring em out while we dancers eagerly await what could be yet another epic buff to SE's love child.

Personally I predict SE will have *** up and make it not only crit on non critting wses, but crit all hits of the ws. This will be followed by dancer's dropping HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE OP dancing edges. Immediately following the Epeen posts on the interwebs SE will emergency maint nerf climactic flourish.

No real point, given that Striking Flourish force crits with Empy +1/+2 body.

"50%" isn't force crit.
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By Shiva.Khimaira 2011-07-11 17:49:47  
Bahamut.Autobot said:
its defintely not all hits, it doesn't wear off when i use evisceration or any other weaponskill....

not as exciting as i originally hoped, but it gives climactic and rudra's purpose now on dnc.

so much for needing striking flourish.
Is it 100% force crit?
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-07-11 17:51:17  
Yeah, lol. And you get an extra 20% damage from AF3+2 head.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-11 17:51:40  
Shiva.Khimaira said:
Bahamut.Autobot said:
its defintely not all hits, it doesn't wear off when i use evisceration or any other weaponskill....

not as exciting as i originally hoped, but it gives climactic and rudra's purpose now on dnc.

so much for needing striking flourish.
Is it 100% force crit?
Climactic is. Striking isn't, even with AF3+2 body it's 50% chance.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-07-11 17:52:07  
Shiva.Khimaira said:
Bahamut.Autobot said:
its defintely not all hits, it doesn't wear off when i use evisceration or any other weaponskill....

not as exciting as i originally hoped, but it gives climactic and rudra's purpose now on dnc.

so much for needing striking flourish.

Why would you use it over Striking? Same recast, more finishing moves, and Striking makes it DA still.

1:30 recast versus 2:00, 100% crit rate on first hit vs. 50% crit rate on 2 hits, 20% additional damage that doesn't count toward Critical Attack Bonus cap + additional 5% CAB from ability to use Loki's.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-07-11 17:53:08  
After doing some more dicking around, I can be pretty confident that it's 50%ish and not much higher. I just stopped updating that page and started updating this one:
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Charis_Casaque_Plus_2
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By Nivis 2011-07-11 18:07:07  
I was thinking more along the lines of evis > RF > step > climatic > PK > darkness, or don't think there would be enough time to make sc with that.
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By Asura.Loneshadow 2011-07-11 18:07:21  
5 FM Climatic > Rudra's > NFR > Reverse > Rudra's = Win?
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2011-07-11 18:08:38  
Nivis said:
I was thinking more along the lines of evis > RF > step > climatic > PK > darkness, or don't think there would be enough time to make sc with that.


i don't think that'll be fast enough.
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By Shiva.Khimaira 2011-07-11 18:08:41  
Asura.Loneshadow said:
5 FM Climatic > Rudra's > NFR > Reverse > Rudra's = Win?

Would make more sense to do

5FM

Rudra's > Reverse > NFR > Climactic > Rudra's
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By BorealisV2 2011-07-11 18:10:31  
Shiva.Khimaira said:
Asura.Loneshadow said:
5 FM Climatic > Rudra's > NFR > Reverse > Rudra's = Win?

Would make more sense to do

5FM

Rudra's > Reverse > NFR > Climactic > Rudra's

But then only one of the Rudra's would crit D:
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-07-11 18:11:08  


Best for Rudra's Climax nao?
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-07-11 18:11:10  
He's aiming for Climactic -> Rudra's x2, so you Crit on the first hit of both Rudra's.

It's a noble goal, but I'd probably do:
5 FM Climactic -> Presto -> Box Step -> Rudra's -> NFR -> Reverse -> Rudra's

Really, even 2 FM Climactic would work fine. That's 3 rounds, so you have one flub one if it slips through between the two Rudra's.

I'd use Brutal and Epona's on the above build for sure.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-07-11 18:12:01  
Asura.Loneshadow said:
5 FM Climatic > Rudra's > NFR > Reverse > Rudra's = Win?

If you're spamming JAs without a ton of auto-attacks in between, this should work!
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-07-11 18:13:02  
Haha, now I can't wait to try this out in Abyssea. I'm totally going RR/Omni/SS when the servers come back up to see if I can one-shot NMs with a self skillchain, haha.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-07-11 18:21:58  
Oh man, I just realized that Gorgets and Belts are going to be back in style for Rudra's because of this. Fffff +2 inventory.
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