Lakshmi.Byrth said:
Oh man, I just realized that Gorgets and Belts are going to be back in style for Rudra's because of this. Fffff +2 inventory.
CLARIFICATION PLOX.
(I don't know the WS/crit math off the top of my head)
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: Oh man, I just realized that Gorgets and Belts are going to be back in style for Rudra's because of this. Fffff +2 inventory. CLARIFICATION PLOX. (I don't know the WS/crit math off the top of my head) When you use a Gorget, you increase the fTP of the first hit. In Abyssea, the first hit (the crit) is going to be the vast majority of the WS's damage. So 3.5->3.7 fTP for the crit hit is +4~5% WS damage. I haven't mathed out the Love Torque/Cuchu vs. gorget/belt fully, but I'd be unsurprised if they come out better now.
Lakshmi.Byrth said: Haha, now I can't wait to try this out in Abyssea. I'm totally going RR/Omni/SS when the servers come back up to see if I can one-shot NMs with a self skillchain, haha. Lakshmi.Byrth said: He's aiming for Climactic -> Rudra's x2, so you Crit on the first hit of both Rudra's. It's a noble goal, but I'd probably do: 5 FM Climactic -> Presto -> Box Step -> Rudra's -> NFR -> Reverse -> Rudra's Really, even 2 FM Climactic would work fine. That's 3 rounds, so you have one flub one if it slips through between the two Rudra's. I'd use Brutal and Epona's on the above build for sure. Lakshmi.Byrth said: When you use a Gorget, you increase the fTP of the first hit. In Abyssea, the first hit (the crit) is going to be the vast majority of the WS's damage. So 3.5->3.7 fTP for the crit hit is +4~5% WS damage. Noted! Glad I have those silly belts! (also glad that I have the Soil one and it works for Rudra's...because I'm OCD and want the belt/gorget to match if I'm using them) Eh! They just barely come out ahead unless we're using Stalwart's or Berserk. We hurt too badly for Attack >.<;
Omni may not be the best for my damage overall, but it's going to give me the prettiest Rudra's -> Rudra's skillchain. =p I think we should be able to get a 6k 100TP Rudra's average in Abyssea. Are you using food in that calculation?
Red Curry Buns, sadly. Food stacks on top of gear, so Atk +17 becomes Atk +21.
I might have to make a 100 TP offhand D:< Lakshmi.Byrth said: Red Curry Buns, sadly. Food stacks on top of gear, so Atk +17 becomes Atk +21. I might have to make a 100 TP offhand D:< I'm actually working on one of those right now because of Martial Knives being 2 mil :D I have an STP one at the moment. Q.Q
...... I guess I could restart it..... Going by my math, 100 TP Bonus Fusetto would bump my damage in Abyssea up by about 25%... Q.Q; Lakshmi.Byrth said: I think we should be able to get a 6k 100TP Rudra's average in Abyssea. if i recall correctly, the 100 tp bonus only works if it is in the main hand.
Siren.Thoraeon said: if i recall correctly, the 100 tp bonus only works if it is in the main hand. Martial Weapons only work main hand, TP Bonus+100 weapons work in either hand. I think we could get a 7.5k average with attack buffs and a TP Bonus+100 Fusetto offhand in Abyssea.
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: Siren.Thoraeon said: if i recall correctly, the 100 tp bonus only works if it is in the main hand. Shouldn't have tossed it because 100 TP bonus fusetto does work offhand. Pooman said: Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: Siren.Thoraeon said: if i recall correctly, the 100 tp bonus only works if it is in the main hand. Shouldn't have tossed it because 100 TP bonus fusetto does work offhand. Lakshmi.Byrth said: Martial Weapons only work main hand, TP Bonus+100 weapons work in either hand. I think we could get a 7.5k average with attack buffs and a TP Bonus+100 Fusetto offhand in Abyssea. is there somewhere where i can find this verified please? Right here:
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/21603/fusetto2-off-hand#1344522 I'm also wondering if now Wild Flourish can do higher than level 1 skillchains, because the SAM one can do up to level 3 properties. Lakshmi.Byrth said: Right here: http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/21603/fusetto2-off-hand#1344522 I'm also wondering if now Wild Flourish can do higher than level 1 skillchains, because the SAM one can do up to level 3 properties. interesting.... also wild flourish can do level 2 skillchains with certain weaponskills, it has a list on the wiki Wild Flourish is only level 1 skillchain properties, so it's incapable of making level 3 or certain level 2 skillchains.
I had to pillage it to fit it into the new template, and it's waiting for reformatting, but this page explains how it actually works. By comparison, the new SAM JA can do JA -> WS -> Level 3 skillchain So with that update to CF.. its pretty boss to use Rudra's with CF in and outta Abyssea since it'll prob boss any other dagger WS.
To somebody that said "wtf..." earlier about the new sam JA being able to ready a level 3 SC... Ya.... Sam is the SC JOB. Lets not be overly sensitive about the SC job getting a strong SC JA please hehe... As it is Dnc gets more SC bonus JT and gets it boosted in AF3+1-2 hands hehe.
is there a way to continue a skillchain from
evisceration -> rudra -> darkness -> rudra -> darkness -> ? or would evisceration -> rudra -> darkness -> rudra -> darkness -> evisceration -> darkness work? Cerberus.Wolfshadow
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: is there a way to continue a skillchain from evisceration -> rudra -> darkness -> rudra -> darkness -> ? or would evisceration -> rudra -> darkness -> rudra -> darkness -> evisceration -> darkness work? So the first one no way to extend it?
edit: i remember doing evisceration -> dancing edge -> distortion (i think) -> evisceration -> darkness -> rudra -> darkness is it possible to add another rudra on the end of that for a 3rd darkness then? Couldn't Rudra's x3 do double darkness?? Or do Empy/Relic WS cut after 1st SC??
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: is there a way to continue a skillchain from evisceration -> rudra -> darkness -> rudra -> darkness -> ? or would evisceration -> rudra -> darkness -> rudra -> darkness -> evisceration -> darkness work? Do any of those actually work? I was under the impression, that to double Lv3 SC you can't use the same WS twice.. Like if you do evis >> rudra to do darkness, a second rudra wouldn't do a second darkness. Am I wrong here? From a sam standpoint (my main) I know kasha >> kaiten >> kaiten won't double light to my knowledge. Asura.Loneshadow said: Couldn't Rudra's x3 do double darkness?? Or do Empy/Relic WS cut after 1st SC?? Cerberus.Wolfshadow
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Asura.Loneshadow said: Couldn't Rudra's x3 do double darkness?? Or do Empy/Relic WS cut after 1st SC?? Ifrit.Eikechi said: Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: is there a way to continue a skillchain from evisceration -> rudra -> darkness -> rudra -> darkness -> ? or would evisceration -> rudra -> darkness -> rudra -> darkness -> evisceration -> darkness work? Do any of those actually work? I was under the impression, that to double Lv3 SC you can't use the same WS twice.. Like if you do evis >> rudra to do darkness, a second rudra wouldn't do a second darkness. Am I wrong here? From a sam standpoint (my main) I know kasha >> kaiten >> kaiten won't double light to my knowledge. Cerberus.Wolfshadow
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: no way to extend it? edit: i remember doing evisceration -> dancing edge -> distortion (i think) -> evisceration -> darkness -> rudra -> darkness is it possible to add another rudra on the end of that for a 3rd darkness then? |
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