PLD Chant Du Cygne Setups

Shadow Sabatons Crit.hit rate +3, Crit. hit damage+3
Heca Subligar +1 EVA+3 MAB+1 Crit.hit rate+4
Heca Mittens +1 Crit. hit damage +3 sword skill 2
Moonshade Attack+4 TP Bonus+25

thoughts?

Rancor collar and thundersoul ring, I like the phorcys dirs and off having body you have the ability to win. Drachenhorn as well if you can get that. Everything else looks good to me, but I'm captain of the USS Failboat.

Thundersoul ring or an augmemted jupiters ring. Try and get att+ on the heca subligar and that will be better than phorcys. Zmail might be better though for outside abyssea due to crit rate would depend on buffs and mobs. Rancorus/nefarious or rancor collar/atheling for outside and gorget or judicators for inside.

I've been messing around on spreadsheets for a minute, and everything I do puts ele gorget+ rancorous mantle over rancor collar and atheling mantle....anyone else getting the same results?

this is currently the highest number I can come up with, granted Phorcys would a be better body in situations where you don't cap attack. With max best augments on heca gear's.

1dex and 2 attack is better than the 4 crit rate augment?
edit: and 2 str from the set

Also, Zahak's is giving better numbers in the spreadsheet with abyssea on or off.

3attack 3da vs 0.1ftp

2.25 fTP base. You're not dualwielding, so total fTP is 4.25 (3 hit). Note I will neglect other Double Attack/Triple Attack/Quadruple Attack influences as they are minor.

Gorget increase = 0.1/4.25 = +2.35% damage

3da; how much we allow this to influence damage depends on how many hits of the WS we believe it can proc on (I don't think I've ever seen conclusive evidence as to a limit, except subject to 8-round cap?). Let us assume for argument's sake that it may proc on two hits, as an intermediate between only "main hits" and all hits.

1 da = +0.01fTP average on most WS, potentially can proc on two hits so +0.02fTP. 3 da => +0.06fTP, increase being 0.06/4.25 = +1.41% damage.

Then, does 3atk > ~1% damage? This should only be the case at very low values of Attack (specifically low (C)ratio).

tl;dr: using very sketchy napkin math, it shows that Ele/Rancor can indeed best Rancor/Atheling.

also you're forgetting the acc from the gorget, well probably not forgetting, but it does make a difference on a lot of higher level nm's

Yeah, it's napkin math - ignores a lot of things, but shows that as a premise it is not unsound.

Heca can get up to +7 att it seems ive got +4 which puts it at 2 att higher than phorcys and yeah crit rate+3/4 will make heca alot better.

Yeah I wasn't really thinking on that one was I? ^^

So if you havent gotten the odin feet.. then your best option for feet is heca feet+1 ? or the blue leaping boots with dex+6?

Still working on this set somewhat as far as augments go but getting decent results in parse.

hands are +3% crit damage
legs are +3 crit rate and +4 subtle blow
feet have +4 subtle blow and +2 crit hit rate

edit: don't have phorcy's or drachenhorn yet...



interested if people have compared elemental neck/rancorous vs. nefarious collar/rancorous mantle

I see everyone chosing a dex waist - with multihit isnt windbuffet the better choice?

Yeah lithe boots or heca are ok if you lack sabatons, I dont think theres anything else new.

And Id use anguinus or cuch over windbuffet in most cases.

edit : wanion forgot.

Rancorous+Gorget, wanion belt, moonshade TP bonus.

I use windbuffet personally, I do have wanion aswell but I like the spike damage when you know windbuffet has proc'd.... and you know when that mofo has proc'd yo.

yeah i like to lower my averages for epeen shots too

Phorcys body and wanion belt over all other choices?

switched to wanion for windbuffet.. working on getting phorcys body and close to finishing wotg for tp bonus earring. dracherhorn be nice too :o

Huginn Gambieras should ***all over anything else for feet slot

oh neato

the neato thing is +10% critdmg with hq augment

So... Huginn > Valkyrie's/Shadow > Hecatomb +1 for feet?

Phorcys > Fulad-Zereh > Twilight for body?
Kumarbi's akar & Zahak's mail where would they come?

and what is the verdict neck & back:
Ele Gorget & Rancorous Vs. Nefarious & Rancorus Vs. Rancor & Atheling

For VW, Legion etc. outside Abyssea stuff

Sweet. The 3|l7l$7$ should love that.

You're right, probably best off sticking with full perle set

nobody has a answers to my above questions? especially interested in knowing wich body is best

Would Phorcys hands be better than hecatomb+1 hands or is it the other way around?
Oh and is this set acceptable in today's society?


Edit: I do not currently own all of the pieces but I do have most.

Ele Gorget & Rancorous for most consistancy.

im not a math guru but show it to me that overall your average is lower because of using that belt then id take it off.

In all other instances ive read about windbuffet wins over time.

And seeing as I can spike up to 7k cdc in abyssea on pld using this belt and about 3-4k outside depending on crit hit id like to see it.

Sure eyeballing big numbers is nice but I was under the impression that in the longer duration the belt had more benefit.

However I may be greatly mistaken and I am more than happy to be corrected.

On some weaponskills in some situation it's the best belt, but this is'nt always the case.
And it's not for CDC, I belive