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 Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-09-01 23:48:16  
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Minus the weapons and rancor collar, pretty much the best you can get inside abyssea.

Brutal only works on the left though.
Your placement of Rajas is askew
Nope, the Store TP only procs on the right. I tested it.
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-09-01 23:52:54  
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Ramuh.Austar said: »


Minus the weapons and rancor collar, pretty much the best you can get inside abyssea.

Brutal only works on the left though.
Your placement of Rajas is askew

@Wolfshadow - LOL

@Austar - It works on the right according to my parser! Must be something wrong hmmm lol
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-09-01 23:53:31  
Works better on the left.
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By Siren.Bruno 2011-09-01 23:53:33  
BRD can't even use Loki's though guyz
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-09-01 23:54:07  
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Works better on the left.

So does Jupiters with Attack 6!
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-01 23:54:09  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
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Minus the weapons and rancor collar, pretty much the best you can get inside abyssea.

Brutal only works on the left though.
Your placement of Rajas is askew
Nope, the Store TP only procs on the right. I tested it.
While this is true, the Subtle Blow alignment interferes with the Charis Toeshoes' haste, which as we all know will significantly increase your haste proc rate, which parses with significantly diminishing returns on ws at lower dCHR numbers.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-09-01 23:55:02  
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Minus the weapons and rancor collar, pretty much the best you can get inside abyssea.

Brutal only works on the left though.
Your placement of Rajas is askew
Nope, the Store TP only procs on the right. I tested it.
While this is true, the Subtle Blow alignment interferes with the Charis Toeshoes' haste, which as we all know will significantly increase your haste proc rate, which parses with significantly diminishing returns on ws.
But it's more beautiful this way, and these are the dancer forums.
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-09-01 23:58:37  
/sigh FINE



happy? its on the left!! i cant get damn twilight on the sub though ....

oh and yes i know these are dnc forums i have dnc^thf main.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-01 23:58:54  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
But it's more beautiful this way, and these are the dancer forums.
How Austar-Vision sees DNC:
The rest of the sane world:
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-09-01 23:59:26  
Jupiter's and Epona's is too much purple :( Go fight with uncapped fSTR so you can use Rajas.
How you use raider's as DNC? :(
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-09-02 00:07:04  
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Jupiter's and Epona's is too much purple :( Go fight with uncapped fSTR so you can use Rajas.


Too much purple! I think the dinosaur would like to have a word with you!

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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-09-02 00:08:35  
Both of those rings look ugly on the right. :(
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-09-02 00:10:39  
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Both of those rings look ugly on the right. :(

lol really now lol
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-02 00:11:11  
Headed to bed, don't spread too many filthy lies Austar :(
Remember everyone, when you ask yourself "how much haste is too much before I start lowering my proc rate?" think of this:
26% haste, procs gone to waste
Low percent, procs well spent

GNITE
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-09-02 00:11:38  
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Both of those rings look ugly on the right. :(

lol really now lol
Yes that's why you should use Rajas. A perfect balance of gold and purple ♥

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26% haste, your faith's misplaced
Low percent, procs well spent
Its in my bazaar/notes. Never forget.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-02 00:14:40  
edited because if you had 26% haste, you probably didn't have any faith to misplace in the first place :(
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-09-02 00:15:47  
good point.
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-09-02 00:16:10  
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I never use evis outside of abyssea anymore, but this would be my set:

dex+4 earring would probably be better, and not sure on nifty vs atheling. Hecatomb feet probably need to be augmented to beat lithe boots. Heca legs could also replace AF3 legs if you get a crit rate augment.
edit: heca cap+1 can also surpass aias if you get a lucky dex/da augment (damn you redfrost).

Never use evis outside? What are you using, DE or Rudra's?
Rudra's only outside abys. The raw WS damage averages only slightly lower, but the ODD pulls it ahead.
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-09-02 00:24:24  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Both of those rings look ugly on the right. :(

lol really now lol
Yes that's why you should use Rajas. A perfect balance of gold and purple ♥

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26% haste, your faith's misplaced
Low percent, procs well spent
Its in my bazaar/notes. Never forget.

is it also a balance of gold and brown for ears? cause wouldnt jupiters pearl > aesir. or is that just WAY too much purple everywhere!
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-09-02 00:28:25  
Attack earring probably better for DNC. Aesir at least.
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By Fenrir.Yuriki 2011-09-02 11:22:52  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »


Minus the weapons and rancor collar, pretty much the best you can get inside abyssea.

Brutal only works on the left though.
Your placement of Rajas is askew
Nope, the Store TP only procs on the right. I tested it.

Thanks for the reply~ What changes would I make for outside of abyssea?
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By Fenrir.Richi 2011-09-03 07:37:42  
would a Mirke body with 10 acc and attack be better than relic body +2 for dancing edge?
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By Asura.Alsoa 2011-11-20 18:53:54  
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would a Mirke body with 10 acc and attack be better than relic body +2 for dancing edge?

mirke better than relic+1 for DE, but charis casaque +2 is best for DE.

i'm pretty sure mirke+10att/acc is best for evisceration too except for loki's.
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By Asura.Alsoa 2011-11-22 09:42:01  
here is my gear for evisc.


*mirke has +10acc/att
*anwig has +15ws acc/+2% ws dmg

what should i use instead of iota? a +7dex ring?
i am looking into soloing loki's kaftan, but i don't have it yet.
is a nifty mantle an upgrade to atheling?
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-11-22 12:26:45  
Epona's and the 7 DEX ring are both strong options. How good Epona's is depends where you are (Abyssea or not) and whether you're using Saber Dance.

Outside Abyssea, Ample Gloves would probably beat Charis +1.

Nifty Mantle is only an upgrade to Atheling in strange conditions, and it's inventory -1 over not carrying it. I just ignore it.

For neck, Rancor Collar is going to be a strong upgrade.

For Body, Loki's Kaftan is really only a great option for Evisceration inside Abyssea. Outside Abyssea your crit rate is so low that you're probably best off sticking to your Mirke.

You should probably ditch the elemental belt and go with Cuchulain's or Pipilaka.

Your Anwig could use a re-augment, I think?
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By Asura.Alsoa 2011-11-22 14:05:22  
cool, thanks for the info/response!

not sure what upgrade you're referring to for anwig. i also use it for mnk, so i think i'd keep it even if there is a slight upgrade.

i'll look into rancor collar.
i'd love an epona's, but it hasn't happened yet >.< -->will buy 7dex i think.

just one question:
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Outside Abyssea, Ample Gloves would probably beat Charis +1.
i sc all the time, so wouldn't the +sc damage win over any +ws damage? i need to upgrade to +2s of course, but i think i'll keep charis.
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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2011-11-22 14:14:38  
Oneiros Helm is the best thf ws headpiece in the game atm
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-11-22 14:31:10  
+SC damage is kind of a trap. Look at it like this:
First WS -> Evisceration -> Darkness (Evisceration * Skillchain Bonus)

If Ample Gloves increase Evisceration damage by 2.5% and you have 20% Skillchain Bonus base, then:
First WS -> Evisceration*1.025 -> Evisceration*1.2*1.025 = First WS + 2.255 Eviscerations

If Charis +1 increases Skillchain Bonus by 5%, Evisceration damage by 1%, and you have 20% Skillchain Bonus base:
First WS -> Evisceration *1.01 -> Evisceration*1.25*1.01 = First WS + 2.2725 Eviscerations

These are purely made up numbers, because I'm too lazy to enter it in to Motenten's spreadsheet.
* Improving your WS damage also improves your skillchain damage, and improvements to your WS damage are magnified by your skillchain bonus.
* Increases in your skillchain damage do nothing for you if you aren't skillchaining, but increasing your WS damage always helps you.
* If the Bangles didn't have a competitive amount of DEX on them, you should use Ample Gloves for sure.

Anyway, you should have Ample Gloves for Dancing Edge and Waltzes, so it doesn't save you any gear slots.
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