Asura.Eiryl said: »
This isn't square, but this recent example explains why
Isn't 40% of 1,000 = 400, and not 40?
The graphic suggest a 4% bonus. 1,000 * 0.04 = 1,040.
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Isn't 40% of 1,000 = 400, and not 40?
The graphic suggest a 4% bonus. 1,000 * 0.04 = 1,040.
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lots of weird math in that graphic honestly, 1200 * 1.2 isn't 1400 either
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Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
lots of weird math in that graphic honestly, 1200 * 1.2 isn't 1400 either
SE math. (1000 x 1.2) + (1000 x 1.2)
Anyone else immediately crashing when attempting to update?
I've tried through both windower and pol.exe, both crash the client as soon as I hit the update button...
Update: Apparently I didn't reboot hard enough last night, rebooted again and it worked fine.... >.>
I hate this game.
I've tried through both windower and pol.exe, both crash the client as soon as I hit the update button...
Update: Apparently I didn't reboot hard enough last night, rebooted again and it worked fine.... >.>
I hate this game.
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Shiva.Thorny said: »
Beau said: »
50% increase to segments earned across the board
I thought we concluded it was only a 50% increase to the vortex bonus, which would be a 10% increase across the board? Did something change?
It is at the vortex, however how they decide to apply the math makes a difference. We'll finally have the answer tomorrow.
X*1.25*1.5
X*(1.25+.125)
X*1.5
Call it 10,000 easy round number:
A) 18750
B) 13750
C) 15000
(Normal would be 12500)
Are all equally valid and equally likely.
Incase it's not clear, 10k is the run and the 8750/3750/5000 are the bonus, not 10k+10k+bonus
This is what I thought and have been telling people before. My thoughts are Case A is most likely then C then B.
Actually I thought it would be likely to have 10000 + (25% + 50% for 75%) So 17500.
The exact wording is:
It says nothing about changing the rewards on the way. It only mentions the rewards from the vortex.
Value vortex gives: 10,000 segments * 0.25 = 2500 segments
50% of 2500 segments: 1250 segments
Value vortex gives with a 50% increase: 3750 segments.
Total gain on run: 13750/12500 = 10%
There's no way to read this as written that implies it would be anything else. They use the exact same word (acquired) in regards to the lustreless boxes. It is a multi-line bulleted(dashed) list, implying all of these fall under the initial statement regarding the vortex. It is not ambiguous unless you assume it is translated wrong.
Quote:
The following changes will be made to the rewards for reaching the Otherworldly Vortex in Sheol A, Sheol B, and Sheol C.
- Job points earned will be increased by 50%.
- Moogle Segments acquired will be increased by 50%.
- The number of lustreless scale boxes, lustreless hide boxes, and lustreless wing boxes acquired will be doubled.
- Job points earned will be increased by 50%.
- Moogle Segments acquired will be increased by 50%.
- The number of lustreless scale boxes, lustreless hide boxes, and lustreless wing boxes acquired will be doubled.
It says nothing about changing the rewards on the way. It only mentions the rewards from the vortex.
Value vortex gives: 10,000 segments * 0.25 = 2500 segments
50% of 2500 segments: 1250 segments
Value vortex gives with a 50% increase: 3750 segments.
Total gain on run: 13750/12500 = 10%
There's no way to read this as written that implies it would be anything else. They use the exact same word (acquired) in regards to the lustreless boxes. It is a multi-line bulleted(dashed) list, implying all of these fall under the initial statement regarding the vortex. It is not ambiguous unless you assume it is translated wrong.
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More like T
Vortex bonus increased. So it goes from 25% bonus to 75% bonus
So a 10k run goes from 12500 to 17500.
Shiva.Thorny said: »
The exact wording is:
It says nothing about changing the rewards on the way. It only mentions the rewards from the vortex.
Value vortex gives: 10,000 segments * 0.25 = 2500 segments
50% of 2500 segments: 1250 segments
Value vortex gives with a 50% increase: 3750 segments.
Total gain on run: 13750/12500 = 10%
There's no way to read this as written that implies it would be anything else. They use the exact same word (acquired) in regards to the lustreless boxes. It is a multi-line bulleted(dashed) list, implying all of these fall under the initial statement regarding the vortex. It is not ambiguous unless you assume it is translated wrong.
Quote:
The following changes will be made to the rewards for reaching the Otherworldly Vortex in Sheol A, Sheol B, and Sheol C.
- Job points earned will be increased by 50%.
- Moogle Segments acquired will be increased by 50%.
- The number of lustreless scale boxes, lustreless hide boxes, and lustreless wing boxes acquired will be doubled.
- Job points earned will be increased by 50%.
- Moogle Segments acquired will be increased by 50%.
- The number of lustreless scale boxes, lustreless hide boxes, and lustreless wing boxes acquired will be doubled.
It says nothing about changing the rewards on the way. It only mentions the rewards from the vortex.
Value vortex gives: 10,000 segments * 0.25 = 2500 segments
50% of 2500 segments: 1250 segments
Value vortex gives with a 50% increase: 3750 segments.
Total gain on run: 13750/12500 = 10%
There's no way to read this as written that implies it would be anything else. They use the exact same word (acquired) in regards to the lustreless boxes. It is a multi-line bulleted(dashed) list, implying all of these fall under the initial statement regarding the vortex. It is not ambiguous unless you assume it is translated wrong.
Vortex bonus increased. So it goes from 25% bonus to 75% bonus
So a 10k run goes from 12500 to 17500.
For that to fit the wording, you have to assume that 'acquired' in the context of segments refers to the entire run, while 'acquired' in the context of boxes only applies to the reward from the vortex.
Ah that's where you got 10% from. You're an Option B'r
(Of their 3 probable options)
The worst option so of course that's fair.
There's a fair chance it is B, but if it is B you all should definitely complain.
(Of their 3 probable options)
The worst option so of course that's fair.
There's a fair chance it is B, but if it is B you all should definitely complain.
Osti tabarnak
Its written as whatever you gain from the vortex is increased by 50%. Its the same ***on the JP side.
Its not complicated
Its written as whatever you gain from the vortex is increased by 50%. Its the same ***on the JP side.
Its not complicated
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"We apologize for any confusion. The % symbol was left in by accident. The reward is actually 50 segments. Enjoy your bonus moogle chunks."
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Asura.Clintbeastwood said: »
Anyone else immediately crashing when attempting to update?
I've tried through both windower and pol.exe, both crash the client as soon as I hit the update button...
Update: Apparently I didn't reboot hard enough last night, rebooted again and it worked fine.... >.>
I hate this game.
I've tried through both windower and pol.exe, both crash the client as soon as I hit the update button...
Update: Apparently I didn't reboot hard enough last night, rebooted again and it worked fine.... >.>
I hate this game.
Gotta reboot harder.
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I used to watch the ***out of this show back in the day. Only recently found out it was a Canadian-created show.
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Needs more Robots
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And it looks like they broke XiView again, 51.dat got changed and using the XiView version crash's the game.
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So I didnt even notice, are they gonna *** leave the vanabout category there just, forgoddamnever or what
I hated clicking it by mistake trying to enter objectives, but I guess I'd hate it even more if they kept switching back and forth.
I hated clicking it by mistake trying to enter objectives, but I guess I'd hate it even more if they kept switching back and forth.
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Asura.Clintbeastwood said: »
Anyone else immediately crashing when attempting to update?
I've tried through both windower and pol.exe, both crash the client as soon as I hit the update button...
Update: Apparently I didn't reboot hard enough last night, rebooted again and it worked fine.... >.>
I hate this game.
I've tried through both windower and pol.exe, both crash the client as soon as I hit the update button...
Update: Apparently I didn't reboot hard enough last night, rebooted again and it worked fine.... >.>
I hate this game.
Gotta reboot harder.
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Needs more Shadow Raiders (War Planets).
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Asura.Vyre said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
Asura.Clintbeastwood said: »
Anyone else immediately crashing when attempting to update?
I've tried through both windower and pol.exe, both crash the client as soon as I hit the update button...
Update: Apparently I didn't reboot hard enough last night, rebooted again and it worked fine.... >.>
I hate this game.
I've tried through both windower and pol.exe, both crash the client as soon as I hit the update button...
Update: Apparently I didn't reboot hard enough last night, rebooted again and it worked fine.... >.>
I hate this game.
Gotta reboot harder.
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Needs more Shadow Raiders (War Planets).
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Needs more beast-robots.
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Asura.Clintbeastwood said: »
Asura.Vyre said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
Asura.Clintbeastwood said: »
Anyone else immediately crashing when attempting to update?
I've tried through both windower and pol.exe, both crash the client as soon as I hit the update button...
Update: Apparently I didn't reboot hard enough last night, rebooted again and it worked fine.... >.>
I hate this game.
I've tried through both windower and pol.exe, both crash the client as soon as I hit the update button...
Update: Apparently I didn't reboot hard enough last night, rebooted again and it worked fine.... >.>
I hate this game.
Gotta reboot harder.
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Needs more Shadow Raiders (War Planets).
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Needs more beast-robots.
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That was a manly show. Depth Charge sacrificing himself to destroy Weapon X (Crab... Rampage?)
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Ah the 90's, before social media ruined everything.
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Damn! ReBoot. I forgot it existed. Thanks for that.
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Ah the 90's, before social media ruined everything.
Social media ruined literally everything, the world was better before Zuckerborg got a fly in his ***.
Everyone is far too aware of nonsense these days.
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Didn't see anyone commenting on it, so went in and killed one nostos then checked the portal in C. 29 segments for the nostos, 10 for the portal.
29 * 0.25 = 7.25
50% of 7.25 = 3.625
7.25 + 3.625 = 10.875
So again, it's 10% on the run.
29 * 0.25 = 7.25
50% of 7.25 = 3.625
7.25 + 3.625 = 10.875
So again, it's 10% on the run.
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Time to bust out pitchforks, I'd be bitchin
That was B by the way so we're both right
That was B by the way so we're both right
Asura.Eiryl said: »
That was B by the way so we're both right
I'm right in the sense that I said exactly what it would be and there was no question, and it was that thing.
You're right in the sense that someone who bets on both teams still 'won' a bet.
Only accepting of the fact that no matter what was written, it was possible to not do what they intended
And only because 10% is insulting even by their standards, only the one percent would even notice 10% extra. A midcore group getting 6-8k gets an extra 10 kills worth of segments.
And only because 10% is insulting even by their standards, only the one percent would even notice 10% extra. A midcore group getting 6-8k gets an extra 10 kills worth of segments.
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