May 2023 Version Update (Part 2)

Prediction
is they gonna make sortie and odyssey 18 players for have them as ls event and ppl will stop complain about the grind
***wish not Prediction

Prime weapons effect the boss.

I read that as they buff them and make them drop more Galli.

Or they offer a permanent metal type de buff and make them easier and faster.

Either way it’s a typical Relic FFXI grind that most won’t be interested in.

Pretty much everything they have added has some kind of system to make it easier as you progress, people always go crazy at the start when they see base numbers so it's just normal at this point.

When someone actually proves this, I'll believe it. This "I read somewhere that X" is *** without you citing a source.

6 months and solo-able were not a joint statement, now made obvious.

This is balls and Sortie is still boring. Not great.

Sortie yes but Odyssey I doubt. At least not Gaol, I don’t see how to keep the No subjob no duplicate job no reuse mechanic and somehow get 18 useful players.

Considering, this is the only piece of actually new content we got in a pretty long time besides TVR missions, if you're not interested in primes, I'm not sure what's even keeping you in the game at this point.

I thought he meant 'read' as in 'understand this to mean' rather than he saw an article or interview.

get your panties out of a bunch

It's *** irritating. If you don't want to do it. Just don't do it.

Don't *** about it and do it anyway.

More or less irritating than being negative in forums about a game you don't play.

Am I misreading this, or are you going to instantly get kicked out and be unable to reraise if you full wipe now? Might be their way of gutting the RP farms (far too late..)

Suppose it could also still reward RP, so no forced 15 minute wait.

Think it's just the odd bug where if someone disconnects/homepoints/warp out of the area while everyone else is dead, the 3 minute eject timer stops applying and the remaining people can theoretically stay dead for RP if they wanted to.

That would make more sense as a patch, though their translation doesn't really match it in description(nothing new there).

This has me curious too. I've seen SE word things more vaguely than this and it ended up being hugely influential. I would not be surprised at all if it increased galli from bosses.

Yes, and the jp text mentions "behaviour" as well, which leads me to think it's not a matter of bad english translation.
What does it refer to though?
They get easier, allowing for faster runs where you get >100k (8 bosses + aminon) with a solid group?
They gain access to more moves/different behaviour but in turn drop more galli?
Or are they simply referring to the fact they drop the stones related to your current prime weapon stage? Would be kinda disappointing if it's "just" the latter, wouldn't it?

Probably not, but they weren't excited for ML past 30 (and especially past 40) either, and yet did SE did something about it?
Nope. Well for now at least.

The fact you can bring up to 18 doesn't mean you have to
Just saying

I don't see Odyssey being allowed to more than 6 people ever anyway.
I could see some adjustment being made to Odyssey though. Not sure what they could do but I think by the end of the year they really need to do something about it if they want to make more people involved with that content.

It's fine to be mad if you want, but past experience and the hints from the patch notes implies there is more to it than there appears to be.

Finish VR, test stuff out.

Everything below is nonsense and not real. But...

Relic Weapon Progression
400 coins -> 1400 -> 6100 (more or less).

If SE follows the same mathematical standard, then...

Prime Weapon Progression
1m muffins -> 3.5m -> 15.2m

That's my current expectation baseline until someone breaks through that first tier.

1) the numbers are part of an NPC dialogue. So if some expert dataminer feels like they have some additional time... they can in theory datamine the NPC dialogue about Stage4 and Stage5 upgrades. I think?

2) They said "around 6 months for a competent group to complete the firs weapon", because of that some of us already calculated approx 6-7 mils total Gallimaufry necessary to complete a Prime Weapon. The values you are getting are out of the scenario if we are to believe what they told us. IF. They could've lied of course! Maybe not on purpose.

I'm not an expert but I hashed everything in the old version before updating it and ran a diff. The dialogue in the screenshot earlier is in ROM/374/98, but it has 'Numeric Parameter' in place of the galli amount, I'm assuming that's filled in from somewhere else in the dats, not sure how to figure out what goes there (or if it's even possible without triggering some event).

What's interesting is that there isn't a lot of new text, maybe stages 4 and 5 are a different npc?

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Voracious Psyches are also a way of slowing us down with a max of 5 per MONTH. Looking forward to the dat mining champs figuring it out.

Per month.

Per month you mean.
We don't know how many will be required overall.
5 x upgrade? 3 months
5, then 10 then 15? 6 months

I'm a bit skeptic on them requiring huge amount of that BTW. Otherwise there would be no purpose in requiring so much galli to gate us out.

Means it's coming from the server, and given how vague the text is in the first event, it's probably the same event reused for each dialogue and the only way to find out will be to farm it.

That's what I was afraid of.

I didn't see any other new references to gallimaufry anywhere else outside of that one DAT either, so makes sense it would be reused.