Are These People Serious?

Googled "the spread of christianity through violence" and got:

http://www.unrv.com/culture/spread-christianity.php

After reading Mithra and Mithraism i couldn't stop laughing. I'll take it more seriously when I stop having my immature moment. How funny that it finds a way to work its way back to being related to FFXI. No big surprise though considering the multicultural influence in that game.

/chuckles

I agree with you 100% maimed^^

It's so sad that religions (Even Islam, the Qu'ran is a beautiful piece of writing if you ever get the chance to read parts of it) are so mis-interpreted >_<

People thinking that the Ten Commandments is a license to kill makes me so sad ._. ... and those guys on the Christan TV network who do nothing but yell about how you're all living your lives terribly and you need to listen to that person to be saved etc.. As a Christian I can see why people would think so many bad things about the religion since these kinds of people make themselves to be so outspoken that their cause covers up the true meaning of the words in the Bible ._.;

Edit: Eeeek! <3 You make a very very good point :)

Funny you should say that, because that was goign to be the point of this post responce to you. Relgious fanatics treat it like if you convert 100 people, you get a "Go to Heaven" card when you die. I wonder where they get that message? (hint: read the book)



Hmm. Do you like to be told that your religion sucks? Without trying to defend it? Wait, isn't that what you are doing now?

yeah, Columbus came to NA just to spread religion. Wonder why he was exiled....


And if you weren't Christian, you were dead.


Extreme religious practices are everywhere (hi2u 9/11) so you have your nutballs in every religion.

Accept my religion or die you heathens!

Now we're on to something. Every rule has many ways to interpret, but we only read as such based on our own morales that were instilled by our role models.


@Korpg They were fighting over possession not religious preference. Now during that time and much later the Church was given great power over the lands it ruled. It was the person in the high chair that said we must be the only religion. The religion didn't say we must be the only one on this Earth.

Korpg just owned us all lol :x

thing i hate most are mission trips. Its ok to go to a country and help people out. thats great. but at the cost of also making them (brain washing) them into being christians? people will argue that but think about it.

Kid is starving and parents are sick. missionaries go over there and give them food.(amazing thing and thank people for doing that) So these people are seen as saviors and now are being taught about christianity and god etc etc.

What about those peoples own beliefs, religions, practices, faith. Apparently those people are wrong? doesnt make sense.

I live in texas, work at a best buy and get people allll the time that want to talk about religion and how there religion is the right one. i say im not interested that i dont believe and then im the bad person. i say no thanks in a polite manner and they litteraly snap at me saying im a bad person and will go to hell otherwise. now a majority of these people (about 95%) are christians that do this. Theres a difference in trying to teach someone something and being a complete asshat about it. Then people wonder "why do atheist the non-believers give christians sooo mcuh ***for being religious". in a simple answer... most deserve it. Golden rule, do untoo others right?

Not really. He didn't understand why Columbus came to North America. It had nothing to do with spreading Christianity. He just bumbled his way into North America while trying to make his way to India, China, and the East Indies. He was trying to make money!

You're just easy catch.

That's really sad that that happens to you Saiji Q_Q. I once had a preacher pull me to one side on my way home from work because he noticed my crucifix pendant, his first words were: Well I see you wearing that Cross, but I doubt you know what it means... and I'm like "o_o excuse me?" This guy was supposed to be sharing the word of God, not lynching people e_e.
Even as a Christian I'll admit that there's a lot of *** in my religion (mainly the people) that need to be sorted out. The extremist types give us such a bad name, heck my mother in law is one of these extremist types too... lol. When Obama was elected president she swore blind it was the devils' work -_-

Israfel, my father paid a ransom to religious extremists so his sickly mother can go free, and they ended up killing his brother because he wasn't considered of pure blood.

Although I am an aethiest by choice, my parents were raised and are practicing muslims. Needless to say, the media does wonders for raising hysteria.

I remember shortly after 9/11 Fox News asked Tom Clancy to come onto a segment where they asked whether or not they should stop allowing muslims to immigrate into the U.S. Someone asked how would they monitor such activity, and the idea was to fill out a questionaire. Tom Clancy says "maybe you should have them wear armbands so they can identify themselves to the public as being muslims" and all the Fox Anchors thought it was a great idea. Tom Clancy then says "Yeah, there was a leader who once thought that was a great idea also, Hitler."

I know Live broadcasts still have a 7 second delay before we see it on the screen but they didn't kill the segment quick enough because I died of sheer laughter.

Owned.

So, you saying the unjust pillaging of Jewish and Islam villages by the Crusaders never happened?

I'm inclined to agree with you, Israfel. More than anything else, it's the bad seeds and the ill will that breeds that keep me away from religion more than anything. The people who speak out in harsh words and point fingers like a real life scene out of "The Mist" when they're all congregated in the grocery store is more sickening than anything to me.

Not to involve politics in this, but it's the same way with social conservative (separate from fiscal) America that bugs the hell out of me. In contrast this tends to make me like those that participate within those groups who aren't batshit crazy, though. I'm probably leaving myself wide-open for attack by leaving out specifics here, but doing so not to shift the topic.

So since bad ***went down 500 years ago we should base everything on that?

I knew that, sorry if the sarcasm went over your head (I thought the last part would have proved that it was sarcasm)

I am so sorry to hear that Maimed >_<!!
I hate so much that people are doing these kinds of things around the world, it's just not right at all >_<;;

That was essentially what I was driving at. Having to write a pages long email to your family to talk them down from thinking a possible presidential candidate is the straigh-up *** anti-christ was the biggest *** I've ever had to deal with. I don't blame them so much for being manipulated as I do the groups that knowingly perform the manipulations knowing damn well it's deceit and using their religion in a manner of convenience.

I don't want to be the bringer of bad news, but all of your personal experiences don't matter. Fact is: Religion will never die. And religion and the person behind the religion are two COMPLETELY different things.

Mixing those two up is what goes wrong. You can't judge a person on their religion and you can't judge a religion on the horrible things some awful people in the name of it do.

Re: Saiji

There's no such thing as a free meal. Nothing is completely selfless. If you help a friend with expectations of nothing in return, you still do it because you feel good helping others. That's still getting something out of it. When it comes to organized religion, it's exactly what it is, organized. If I had to hire aggressive outside salespeople that never lose motivation after hearing "NO" a hundred times, I'd hire a mormon in a heartbeat.

Organinsed relgion = The Mob.

Discuss.

unless they are about to tell me i have a headlight out or some actually helpful kind ***, im uncomfortable with ANY stranger coming up to me for any reason what so ever. i have insecurities about any/everyone i dont know, as well any person living in todays world should. if a group of people are walking down the alley @ a very late hour of night, and you just so happen to be as well, i dont care who/where you are.. youd be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE NOT to have a twinge of suspicion or fear pop up in your mind.

if everyone minded their own business and just did their OWN thing, there would be a lot less *** to be afraid of..

sure sure they are just handing out harmless pamphlets, but what about when/if they start having actual conversations with your children somewhere/somehow ? what if your kids stopped at the house for trickortreat candy and got a sermon about homosexuals going to hell, and abortions (even in the cases of incest/rape) being condemned by god, who happens to see all and know all like santa btw?

tbh id be MOST afraid of what i'd have to do if that happened to anyone i knew..

They suck at making money.

Oh, get this. If you listen to random AM stations that play a lot of relgious talk shows and stuff, there is some book that exposes President Obama as someone who associates himself with tax evaders, cheats, and common thugs. One may argue that advertisements don't reflect the views of a station but that disclosure is to protect their own *** from liability and any bad press that comes of it. They control the content, including which advertisements they choose to allow through. It's all marketing nonsense.

if i looked like korpg id be an athiest too

You knew what, exactly? I'm convinced that you say and believe whatever is convenient for you at any given moment regardless of fact or what you've previously stated. I can't discern any kind of consistent logic, moral code, or internal belief structure within you.

theres really no point to any of this,


no one here is going to change there mind based on what they've read in this thread

Those actions were accepted in the rules of war back in those days. They would do the same to other Christians if they were denied food/quarters for the troops.

Enjoylife, I suppose Atheism is about as pointless is being part of any religion where someone name God ran out of prozac and decided to create beings to reinforce how great He is in order to help him maintain his self-esteem.

Narcissistic much?

Come on, we can bash each other's beliefs all day long. It's pointless to go that route. I'll do it to pass time if necessary. I have about two hours left till I'm off work anyway.

Lilbusta, just because it was common practice or even remotely socially acceptable behavior doesn't mean it was right. Slavery was not considered immoral by any means, not for a long while. I think we can all agree it's wrong.. at least I hope we all agree.

maybe if i slip some of my groups literature in your child's trick or treat bag ?