September 2022 Version Update

mortem requiem

MAB+MACC+MBII song.
Defense+Evasion+all resistances song.
Defense+Magic Defense debuff song.
DA/TA song.

There's tons of options.

A magic buffing or even magic evasion/defence song would be fantastic, but I would worry about it hurting geo’a place even more.

Something unique would be cool, subtle blow 2 song etc

Pretty sure BRD will never get to touch casting stats, multiattack or MDB.

Massacre Elegy is the most likely answer because it'll affect the game balance the least and it's basically zero extra work for them because it already exists.

Or if they did go the magic route, maybe something like iridescent carol/resist all of sorts so it is at least unique. I agree though it feels unlikely

I also thought the same thing, however dont think its upgradable yet

Tbh massacre elegy could be a bit nuts if they don't have a floor in place for enemy delay. It's all fun and games until the geo casts an indi slow to form the sluggerzord with massacre elegy and slow ii

Calling a “Foe Requiem VIII” horn.

It won't be gamebreaking or anything, as slow has diminishing returns. Going from 50% to 100% slow reduces melee attack speed by 25%, but going from 100% slow to 150% slow only reduces it by a further 20%. RDM + GEO + BRD can already get to nearly 150% slow on NMs without SP these days, so Massacre wouldn't really be much more degenerate than it already is.

On a separate note, I was shocked at how weak Indi-Slow is when I looked it up. Bolstered Idris Indi-Slow is weaker than both Carnage Elegy and non-Saboteur Slow II.

Yeah it was a joke, indi slow is dogshit and even if they made slow additive directly against attack delay I still wouldn't cast it out of spite

NMs that aren't outright immune to slow usually aren't dangerous because of their regular attacks anyway, but rather because of TP moves. So Massacre really wouldn't make a huge difference.

We can finally be cowbows

This would be my wish. And a better MaB option as a nuking food while we're at it. Mage food has been lacking for years.

I would really like to see versions of songs that do for tanks and mages what Honor March does for melees.

Champion's Minne: Defense Bonus / Magic Defense Bonus / Magic Evasion Bonus
Sage's Ballad: Magic Accuracy / Magic Attack Bonus / Magic Burst Bonus II

But yeah, my money's on Massacre Elegy.

I'd love to see a stronger defense buff akin to Honor March. It would be nice to see Resist! all on it too. That would make it pair nicely with the other Resist! songs such as Warding Round. It would much easier to shut down certain debuffs like Zombie or Petrification.

Ideally, I would love to have a Carol to covers all elements but I don't see that happening.

It's going to be stat stick for WS/TP to replace Linos I bet, having new spell seems too good of a scenario for SE

Obviously a store tp song, bolter's roll song, and a leaden salute song. Just toot toot, Leaden Salute!

GEO needs a REMA bell, why did they exclude GEO?!?!

Technically Shields and Instruments aren't "weapons" either, if you wanna look at things that way °-°

I think it's more of a matter of Prime Weapons being originally based on the Relic Weapons.
Eventually, as development progressed, they became its own thing instead of "dark relics" but they were still based on that initial model and so that excludes a lot of stuff that wasn't originally present during the Relic days.


But yeah, in general having a "REMA" level bell, or Animator, or Sachet, would've been very nice for those jobs.
A REMA shuriken for NIN plz!

You are right.


The dream


They aren't exactly "its own thing" in the meaning of having no connection to relics.

Bell is an instrument if you try to find one on the AH. weapons > instruments.

Cactrot Rapido Mazurka, complete with dust trails.

on another train, how about the katana allows ninja to finally cast the long lost spell, jubaku: ni

So it’s still classified as a weapon.

All this talk about they “can’t” do something because of xy reasons is just supposition on our part. They made demonic Maat that looked like an unpurified team rocket shadow Pokémon lol, they can do anything they want and make it make sense. Remember when Velkk KI in incursion from max level was just taken by the NPC with no explanation and the players complained? SE came out and officially said “Velkks are mean, they do stuff like that”. lol they do what they want

It would have been nice to have a unique ultimate bell but it’s not what they wanted to do. Honestly, I think they made Idris insanely too strong at first, which prompted every content to get nerfed. Because of this, they just give GEO Aspir, nuke and DD weapons now, lol

At this point I don’t even care, but it would be interesting if they did something along the lines of this. Prime Katana enhances Ninjutsu enfeebling magic by another tier: Ichi becomes>Ni becomes>San

You don’t have to call it Hojo San, just add the extra effect potency to Hojo Ni at the time the spell is cast.

So much this, especially Animator. Would also be nice if all REMA Katana could dispense top tier shuriken like ranged weapons do.

Yes, it would.

Well, that's all from 2017 and 2018, but if they actually added those shuriken and nerfed katana in the current meta... that'd be a hilarious kick in the face.

That would just make naegling more OP on nin lol