Nariont said: »
You don't need r25 nyame, nin/sam both were wrecking stuff with hybrids when r20 was the top, 25 just makes it even better, nyame comes packed with everything hybrid WS could ever want its downright silly
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What about at R0? lol
Bahamut.Justthetip said: »
Starbucks said: »
Asura.Essylt said: »
Starbucks said: »
But DRG is the #1 DD on paper, why don't you use a DRG???
Likely better sets out there then, but it doesnt take too long for them to overtake, DA/WSD/mab/atk/macc/acc all in one place does wonders. But same could be said for the other DDs at r0 gear, im just saying nyame was absurd for hybrid WS, comparitively moreso than regular WS imo, they were already pretty potent in certain niches, nyame just widened that out some
I still say basing anything off pugs is silly. Especially asura, "standards" here are all out of whack 99% of the time
Starbucks said: »
Well, anyway, the point was that DRG isn't anywhere near as desired as WAR DRK SAM,
I still say basing anything off pugs is silly. Especially asura, "standards" here are all out of whack 99% of the time
SimonSes said: »
Starbucks said: »
This is fine to write on a forum, and this is EXACTLY what I am saying here. On paper does not translate to in-game actual use. How many of you genuinely use a DRG in your static, or for anything other than maybe Bumba? Which can be done with a SB DRK in place.
I full time DRG in our static segments runs and Im talking from in game experience. DRG/dnc Naelging/Kraken is stupidly OP. 70-80k (1500TP+, which is usually 2 rounds) Savage with crazy TP gain and Spirit/Soul jumps giving 1500-3000TP. Circle works for puks/Wyverns/Wyrm/Dahaks (Savage goes up to 90k+ then). You can one shot Flans and Wamouracampa too.
I am almost ML40 on drg solely from segment farms. I do go /war though instead of /dnc
jobs are:
drg
war
cor
brd
pld
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COR should parse more than 13.8% in my experience?
Also using sword feels cheap and not at all how the job was intended. Imagine BLU became the best DD but USING A DAGGER, it would completely ruin the job like no Polearm on DRG!
Also using sword feels cheap and not at all how the job was intended. Imagine BLU became the best DD but USING A DAGGER, it would completely ruin the job like no Polearm on DRG!
Starbucks said: »
COR should parse more than 13.8% in my experience?
Yes it should. I don't have a static and this is from a pug.
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Starbucks said: »
Imagine BLU became the best DD but USING A DAGGER
Occasionally black halo is indeed the better WS to spam, and before that realmrazer was one of the better WS' to spam before the big WS change, that said naegling savage on all the jobs is indeed a curse, its a very effective one though
Nariont said: »
Starbucks said: »
Imagine BLU became the best DD but USING A DAGGER
Occasionally black halo is indeed the better WS to spam, and before that realmrazer was one of the better WS' to spam before the big WS change, that said naegling savage on all the jobs is indeed a curse, its a very effective one though
if its not weak to piercing, or really strong to slashing, savage blade all the things, every job, every time
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Starbucks said: »
Nariont said: »
Starbucks said: »
Imagine BLU became the best DD but USING A DAGGER
Occasionally black halo is indeed the better WS to spam, and before that realmrazer was one of the better WS' to spam before the big WS change, that said naegling savage on all the jobs is indeed a curse, its a very effective one though
You switch for slashing -50%, not piercing weak. There is no reason to switch to polearm and do 90k+ Impulse with 2000+TP instead of ~75k Savage, because mobs have like 60-75k HP and you TP faster with Naegling/KC.
Ofc you could feel bad about using Naegling, but it doesn't change the fact that it destroys that content.
DRG Head is a nice little surprise I suppose. +3 version will for sure be our new BiS WS head.
DEF:130 HP+63 STR+31 DEX+27 VIT+30 AGI+25 INT+21 MND+21 CHR+21 Accuracy+51 Attack+61 Magic Accuracy+51 Evasion+76 Magic Evasion+88 "Magic Def. Bonus"+5 Polearm skill +22 Haste+7% Weapon skill damage +8% Wyvern: Accuracy+51 Magic Accuracy+51 Absorbs damage taken +16% Set: Attack occ. varies with wyvern's HP
DEF:130 HP+63 STR+31 DEX+27 VIT+30 AGI+25 INT+21 MND+21 CHR+21 Accuracy+51 Attack+61 Magic Accuracy+51 Evasion+76 Magic Evasion+88 "Magic Def. Bonus"+5 Polearm skill +22 Haste+7% Weapon skill damage +8% Wyvern: Accuracy+51 Magic Accuracy+51 Absorbs damage taken +16% Set: Attack occ. varies with wyvern's HP
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Asura.Lunafreya said: »
DRG Head is a nice little surprise I suppose. +3 version will for sure be our new BiS WS head.
DEF:130 HP+63 STR+31 DEX+27 VIT+30 AGI+25 INT+21 MND+21 CHR+21 Accuracy+51 Attack+61 Magic Accuracy+51 Evasion+76 Magic Evasion+88 "Magic Def. Bonus"+5 Polearm skill +22 Haste+7% Weapon skill damage +8% Wyvern: Accuracy+51 Magic Accuracy+51 Absorbs damage taken +16% Set: Attack occ. varies with wyvern's HP
DEF:130 HP+63 STR+31 DEX+27 VIT+30 AGI+25 INT+21 MND+21 CHR+21 Accuracy+51 Attack+61 Magic Accuracy+51 Evasion+76 Magic Evasion+88 "Magic Def. Bonus"+5 Polearm skill +22 Haste+7% Weapon skill damage +8% Wyvern: Accuracy+51 Magic Accuracy+51 Absorbs damage taken +16% Set: Attack occ. varies with wyvern's HP
Depends how high will that WSD go and what Nyame will get at R30. I wouldn't say "for sure".
Asura.Lunafreya said: »
DRG Head is a nice little surprise I suppose. +3 version will for sure be our new BiS WS head.
DEF:130 HP+63 STR+31 DEX+27 VIT+30 AGI+25 INT+21 MND+21 CHR+21 Accuracy+51 Attack+61 Magic Accuracy+51 Evasion+76 Magic Evasion+88 "Magic Def. Bonus"+5 Polearm skill +22 Haste+7% Weapon skill damage +8% Wyvern: Accuracy+51 Magic Accuracy+51 Absorbs damage taken +16% Set: Attack occ. varies with wyvern's HP
DEF:130 HP+63 STR+31 DEX+27 VIT+30 AGI+25 INT+21 MND+21 CHR+21 Accuracy+51 Attack+61 Magic Accuracy+51 Evasion+76 Magic Evasion+88 "Magic Def. Bonus"+5 Polearm skill +22 Haste+7% Weapon skill damage +8% Wyvern: Accuracy+51 Magic Accuracy+51 Absorbs damage taken +16% Set: Attack occ. varies with wyvern's HP
It would be interesting to see (yet 100% doubtful) if they added secondary stats in. e.g. instead of wsd going from 8 to 16 or whatever, to see DA+8 or STP+8 added on instead. that'd be a nice cause of rage for not beating nyame (or +3af/relic lol) but still giving a few nice TP pieces out.
SimonSes said: »
Asura.Lunafreya said: »
DRG Head is a nice little surprise I suppose. +3 version will for sure be our new BiS WS head.
DEF:130 HP+63 STR+31 DEX+27 VIT+30 AGI+25 INT+21 MND+21 CHR+21 Accuracy+51 Attack+61 Magic Accuracy+51 Evasion+76 Magic Evasion+88 "Magic Def. Bonus"+5 Polearm skill +22 Haste+7% Weapon skill damage +8% Wyvern: Accuracy+51 Magic Accuracy+51 Absorbs damage taken +16% Set: Attack occ. varies with wyvern's HP
DEF:130 HP+63 STR+31 DEX+27 VIT+30 AGI+25 INT+21 MND+21 CHR+21 Accuracy+51 Attack+61 Magic Accuracy+51 Evasion+76 Magic Evasion+88 "Magic Def. Bonus"+5 Polearm skill +22 Haste+7% Weapon skill damage +8% Wyvern: Accuracy+51 Magic Accuracy+51 Absorbs damage taken +16% Set: Attack occ. varies with wyvern's HP
Depends how high will that WSD go and what Nyame will get at R30. I wouldn't say "for sure".
Fair enough. Will be a good alternative for the moderate amount of players who aren’t going to be able to obtain R30 Nyame.
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SimonSes said: »
Asura.Lunafreya said: »
DRG Head is a nice little surprise I suppose. +3 version will for sure be our new BiS WS head.
DEF:130 HP+63 STR+31 DEX+27 VIT+30 AGI+25 INT+21 MND+21 CHR+21 Accuracy+51 Attack+61 Magic Accuracy+51 Evasion+76 Magic Evasion+88 "Magic Def. Bonus"+5 Polearm skill +22 Haste+7% Weapon skill damage +8% Wyvern: Accuracy+51 Magic Accuracy+51 Absorbs damage taken +16% Set: Attack occ. varies with wyvern's HP
DEF:130 HP+63 STR+31 DEX+27 VIT+30 AGI+25 INT+21 MND+21 CHR+21 Accuracy+51 Attack+61 Magic Accuracy+51 Evasion+76 Magic Evasion+88 "Magic Def. Bonus"+5 Polearm skill +22 Haste+7% Weapon skill damage +8% Wyvern: Accuracy+51 Magic Accuracy+51 Absorbs damage taken +16% Set: Attack occ. varies with wyvern's HP
Depends how high will that WSD go and what Nyame will get at R30. I wouldn't say "for sure".
https://gist.github.com/Chiaia/9bb22e7544239d636faf7bcc0de7372a
SimonSes said: »
Ofc you could feel bad about using Naegling, but it doesn't change the fact that it destroys that content.
Asura.Chiaia said: »
We have a pretty good idea of what R30 Nyame looks like already when they added R25 they be filled it out to R30 and the numbers look on point. They could go back and change again but the scaling wouldn't make sense then.
Asura.Essylt said: »
Asura.Chiaia said: »
We have a pretty good idea of what R30 Nyame looks like already when they added R25 they be filled it out to R30 and the numbers look on point. They could go back and change again but the scaling wouldn't make sense then.
Asura.Chiaia said: »
SimonSes said: »
Asura.Lunafreya said: »
DRG Head is a nice little surprise I suppose. +3 version will for sure be our new BiS WS head.
DEF:130 HP+63 STR+31 DEX+27 VIT+30 AGI+25 INT+21 MND+21 CHR+21 Accuracy+51 Attack+61 Magic Accuracy+51 Evasion+76 Magic Evasion+88 "Magic Def. Bonus"+5 Polearm skill +22 Haste+7% Weapon skill damage +8% Wyvern: Accuracy+51 Magic Accuracy+51 Absorbs damage taken +16% Set: Attack occ. varies with wyvern's HP
DEF:130 HP+63 STR+31 DEX+27 VIT+30 AGI+25 INT+21 MND+21 CHR+21 Accuracy+51 Attack+61 Magic Accuracy+51 Evasion+76 Magic Evasion+88 "Magic Def. Bonus"+5 Polearm skill +22 Haste+7% Weapon skill damage +8% Wyvern: Accuracy+51 Magic Accuracy+51 Absorbs damage taken +16% Set: Attack occ. varies with wyvern's HP
Depends how high will that WSD go and what Nyame will get at R30. I wouldn't say "for sure".
https://gist.github.com/Chiaia/9bb22e7544239d636faf7bcc0de7372a
They said they will add 4th augment for armor and 3rd for accessories, so the list above 25 might be just placeholder or is not complete.
Ah ok thanks for the heads up. Any one mind linking where that was said?
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IGDC said: »
Afania, youre completely missing the points. I'm not saying blu should replace cor or that cor should be nerfed or anything like that.
Cor has gotten updates, HUGE updates in ALL aspects of their play.
Blu has not.
Cor has gotten updates, HUGE updates in ALL aspects of their play.
Blu has not.
That's hyperbole, though. BLU gets malig like many other jobs. It gets naegling/nyame like many other jobs. It's even on maxentius which is pretty damn good.
Sure, you or draylo wanted duration buffs. But not having them is not the same as getting nothing ever.
Then when I pointed out the hyperbole in BLU QQ posts people changed the topic to pt invite issue which is a totally different issue.
I mean...if you want to exaggerate in Draylo style then go ahead >.> But I am just gonna make fun about the them as usual! >.>
Asura.Chiaia said: »
Ah ok thanks for the heads up. Any one mind linking where that was said?
I think in the May Digest? Let me check
EDIT: Yeah 4min6sec
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thx Simon
Edit: I wonder if they will keep augments going to R30 they already added and on top of it add a 4th/3rd augment.
Edit: I wonder if they will keep augments going to R30 they already added and on top of it add a 4th/3rd augment.
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Afania said: »
IGDC said: »
Afania, youre completely missing the points. I'm not saying blu should replace cor or that cor should be nerfed or anything like that.
Cor has gotten updates, HUGE updates in ALL aspects of their play.
Blu has not.
Cor has gotten updates, HUGE updates in ALL aspects of their play.
Blu has not.
That's hyperbole, though. BLU gets malig like many other jobs. It gets naegling/nyame like many other jobs. It's even on maxentius which is pretty damn good.
Sure, you or draylo wanted duration buffs. But not having them is not the same as getting nothing ever.
Then when I pointed out the hyperbole in BLU QQ posts people changed the topic to pt invite issue which is a totally different issue.
I mean...if you want to exaggerate in Draylo style then go ahead >.> But I am just gonna make fun about the them as usual! >.>
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Bahamut.Justthetip said: »
Afania said: »
IGDC said: »
Afania, youre completely missing the points. I'm not saying blu should replace cor or that cor should be nerfed or anything like that.
Cor has gotten updates, HUGE updates in ALL aspects of their play.
Blu has not.
Cor has gotten updates, HUGE updates in ALL aspects of their play.
Blu has not.
That's hyperbole, though. BLU gets malig like many other jobs. It gets naegling/nyame like many other jobs. It's even on maxentius which is pretty damn good.
Sure, you or draylo wanted duration buffs. But not having them is not the same as getting nothing ever.
Then when I pointed out the hyperbole in BLU QQ posts people changed the topic to pt invite issue which is a totally different issue.
I mean...if you want to exaggerate in Draylo style then go ahead >.> But I am just gonna make fun about the them as usual! >.>
No one is wanting BLU to be top tier as a DD. Everyone is clamoring for their buff durations to be enhanced. You know, to make it a hybrid job instead of a DD that uses MG every 5 minutes that can cleave trash mobs
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