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By Heck 2020-03-16 11:23:57  
Not sure if this was mentioned, but have been soloing on THF everyday to get scales. When I read the description to the chests it says "A Special item or..." so tried Living Keys. I kept on getting messages "However, it has no effect." It seems maybe THF can lock-pick them with low success rates? I only had 7 keys on me at the time if anyone else wants to test before I get the chance tomorrow.
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By Phoenix.Mikumaru 2020-03-16 11:36:41  
Hmmm. Has anyone tried using Forbidden keys yet?
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2020-03-16 12:52:56  
Have those ever worked on anything outside of abyssea?
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By Phoenix.Mikumaru 2020-03-16 13:06:55  
Well, people are popping NMs with UNM trophies so it's worth a shot
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2020-03-16 13:10:41  
It would be nice if the keys could be used else where, only ones that stack to 99 iirc, lol
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2020-03-16 13:25:28  
Heck said: »
Not sure if this was mentioned, but have been soloing on THF everyday to get scales. When I read the description to the chests it says "A Special item or..." so tried Living Keys. I kept on getting messages "However, it has no effect." It seems maybe THF can lock-pick them with low success rates? I only had 7 keys on me at the time if anyone else wants to test before I get the chance tomorrow.

It's been mentioned

Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »
THF can pick the locks/chests in odyssey, in case no one mentioned, or knows about it yet. However some times mimic will pop out. Unsure how hard they are, as it opens with deathtrap, and his mule has sparks gear (and it got one shot). Credit goes to mischief

"Either gave a 'however it has no effect' message and consumed the tool, opened the chest, or a mimic popped out"
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By SimonSes 2020-03-16 16:34:28  
Not sure how exactly Moogle Mastery buffs Trusts, but I do Odyssey solo on each of my chars and on BRD I use damage trusts and it's the first time today when I was seeing 10k WSs done by Tenzen (Honor, 2x minuet, no rolls).
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By Carbuncle.Papesse 2020-03-16 16:48:16  

2 large boxes, we killed 2 mimics.
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By tyalangan 2020-03-16 16:58:38  
Carbuncle.Papesse said: »
2 large boxes, we killed 2 mimics.

And to get mimics you have to use thief tools?
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By Asura.Slyshenx 2020-03-16 17:02:51  
tyalangan said: »
Carbuncle.Papesse said: »
2 large boxes, we killed 2 mimics.

And to get mimics you have to use thief tools?

Did a run on THF, was able to pop a chest with thief's tools but it only gave me a few scales. Think it took me two keys to open. Tried it on another chest right next to it and after 6 or so failed attempts, 7th attempt popped me a mimic killed me before I could engage and get trust cure to go off. Only hit me about 300 or so, though, so I'm sure it can be tanked pretty easily by a PLD.
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By Phoenix.Mikumaru 2020-03-16 17:20:32  
Asura.Slyshenx said: »
tyalangan said: »
Carbuncle.Papesse said: »
2 large boxes, we killed 2 mimics.

And to get mimics you have to use thief tools?

Did a run on THF, was able to pop a chest with thief's tools but it only gave me a few scales. Think it took me two keys to open. Tried it on another chest right next to it and after 6 or so failed attempts, 7th attempt popped me a mimic killed me before I could engage and get trust cure to go off. Only hit me about 300 or so, though, so I'm sure it can be tanked pretty easily by a PLD.
The mimic I popped on Floor 3 was a ***. It spammed Death Trap effectively keeping me stun locked. I was able to get 1 WS off and did about 10% dmg but it has some sort of DT or DEF cuz Naegling Savage Blade did 4500 vs the 35k+ it does everything else. Also Forbidden keys, SP keys, and Job cards have no effect on chests.
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By SimonSes 2020-03-16 17:21:14  
Carbuncle.Papesse said: »

2 large boxes, we killed 2 mimics.

That's interesting now :O How hard were those mimics? how much HP?
Just to clarify, you can keep opening same chest until you pop mimic or open chest?

Looks like farming mimics might be the best way to earn scales lol
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By Asura.Geriond 2020-03-16 17:39:32  
Brachys (Crab)
Popped with Emperor Arthro Shell x1
Uses Invincible
Gains Attack Down aura when it SPs
Hits hard with Big Scissors (>2k without PDT).
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By Phoenix.Mikumaru 2020-03-16 17:42:43  
The nostro mobs get stronger on each floor so I would guess everything follows suit. The Efts surrounding it had 40k+ HP where the floor 1 mobs had 30k or less and they were hitting noticeably harder.
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By Carbuncle.Papesse 2020-03-16 17:44:52  
SimonSes said: »
Carbuncle.Papesse said: »

2 large boxes, we killed 2 mimics.

That's interesting now :O How hard were those mimics? how much HP?
Just to clarify, you can keep opening same chest until you pop mimic or open chest?

Looks like farming mimics might be the best way to earn scales lol
Easy once you stack enough lightning resistance against Stun. Poison is a non-issue but appears to get progressively stronger after each kill/new floor. It was 0~1 tick on the first pop (A1) then 10 tick on the next (A3).
Yes, trade tools until chest open or transform. We used skeleton keys but I'm unsure if it makes a difference or not. Sometimes a coffer can spawn after opening a chest.
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By SimonSes 2020-03-16 17:44:58  
Phoenix.Mikumaru said: »
The nostro mobs get stronger on each floor so I would guess everything follows suit. The Efts surrounding it had 40k+ HP where the floor 1 mobs had 30k or less and they were hitting noticeably harder.

Floor 1 mobs has 40k+ hp actually. Something like 45k.
Floor 7 mobs has like 60k+
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By Asura.Slyshenx 2020-03-16 18:14:39  
Phoenix.Mikumaru said: »
The mimic I popped on Floor 3 was a ***. It spammed Death Trap effectively keeping me stun locked.

I forgot to mention that this was on the first floor, so might have explained why it may have been weaker.
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By SimonSes 2020-03-16 18:34:22  
Guess I will try farming mimics tomorrow with brd whm thf and cor
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By Siren.Codegen 2020-03-17 03:07:13  
I popped a cactuar using veloz needles (traded 12 but it only consumed 1), the NM name was Cynara and it used increasingly higher damage needles, I was soloing it on monk so I used mantra and inner strenght to get my HP above 8k for safety and glad that I did, killed it ok but it might be dangerous on other jobs that can't take 4k+ damage spikes
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By Bahamut.Lexouritis 2020-03-17 04:47:27  
Carbuncle.Papesse said: »

2 large boxes, we killed 2 mimics.

Very interesting, thanks Papesse!
 
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2020-03-17 08:44:31  
Tipuli
Brachys
Dione
Gloios
Damysus
Aegypius - 3X Abyssdiver Feather, used CoP bird attacks
Salmandra
Ailuros
Megaera
Eurytus
Harpe
Kusarikku
Leucippe
Cynara
Ptelea
Physis

\FINAL FANTASY XI\ROM\363\67.DAT and 68.DAT, seem to be the same file.

There are 3 chest tiers: Chest > Coffer > Aurus Strongbox
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2020-03-17 09:07:26  
Just to confirm, there are no unique drops from mobs in this content as of yet, correct? Just gil and scales for unity upgrades?
 
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2020-03-17 11:34:16  
Asura.Geriond said: »
Aegypius NM:

Bird
Popped using 5 Abyssdiver feathers
Uses Broadside Barrage and Damnation Dive
Uses Perfect Dodge at low HP and gains an Encumbrance aura that stays for the rest of the fight

What floor did you pop it on? I traded a stack of feathers on the first floor and it only used 3 of them. The PD and Encumberance aura were the same in my fight.
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By Phoenix.Mikumaru 2020-03-17 11:35:41  
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Carbuncle.Papesse said: »

2 large boxes, we killed 2 mimics.

Very interesting, thanks Papesse!
So I presume this was awarded upon leaving, did you exit via the conflux or were you booted?
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By Asura.Geriond 2020-03-17 11:36:17  
That was an error on my part from misremembering how many feathers I pulled out of my case. It took 1 feather for me on the first floor.

I popped it again to confirm, also taking 1 feather.
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By SimonSes 2020-03-17 11:48:49  
Phoenix.Mikumaru said: »
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Carbuncle.Papesse said: »

2 large boxes, we killed 2 mimics.

Very interesting, thanks Papesse!
So I presume this was awarded upon leaving, did you exit via the conflux or were you booted?

You need to touch the same conflux that is required to finish RoE to get personal rewards for killing Halos+beastmans or mimics.
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By Phoenix.Mikumaru 2020-03-17 12:31:48  
Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »
Carbuncle.Papesse said: »

2 large boxes, we killed 2 mimics.

Very interesting, thanks Papesse!
So I presume this was awarded upon leaving, did you exit via the conflux or were you booted?
SimonSes said: »
Phoenix.Mikumaru said: »
Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »
Carbuncle.Papesse said: »

2 large boxes, we killed 2 mimics.

Very interesting, thanks Papesse!
So I presume this was awarded upon leaving, did you exit via the conflux or were you booted?

You need to touch the same conflux that is required to finish RoE to get personal rewards for killing Halos+beastmans or mimics.
So you dont have to exit, just interact with the conflux.
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