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 Lakshmi.Cortez
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By Lakshmi.Cortez 2019-06-10 16:03:53  
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Can anyone confirm or deny Dynamis D lockout from HTB Odin fight?
Can confirm. God bless I didn't have Odin beaten haha.

SE doing anything about this?
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2019-06-10 16:14:25  
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How are you guys handling zantet x? Just using pet setup and not really worrying about it?

Puppets ate Zantet X, Odin would then start chasing the RDM. However, Odin seems to be easy to kite since he likes to stop and cast spells. It gives the PUPs plenty of time to summon new puppets to rejoin the fight.

Also, at 5%, Odin did Zantetsuken Kai, which did about 3500 dmg to my tank auto and one-shotted the RNG auto. I'm not sure if it's straight damage, or similar to 10k needles.
If it's similar to the version he uses in other versions of the fight, it's straight 95% of target's max hp. So if it's anywhere below 96% it's going to die.
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By Lakshmi.Darkdoom 2019-06-10 16:17:59  
Lakshmi.Cortez said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Asura.Hanzsolo said: »
Can anyone confirm or deny Dynamis D lockout from HTB Odin fight?
Can confirm. God bless I didn't have Odin beaten haha.

SE doing anything about this?

Dunno, but its a fresh 72h lockout from dyna-d every time you enter odin. So, hold off for now if you want to do dyna any time soon lol.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-06-10 16:25:15  
What does Odin have to do with dynamis d?
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By Bahamut.Negan 2019-06-10 16:28:23  
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What does Odin have to do with dynamis d?
No idea, but I was up for my last clear on PUP tomorrow night, and now it says 6/13.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2019-06-10 16:30:38  
They probably used the same instance server they set up for dyna to do the new selbina zone, and had dyna timer as an event triggered by entering the instance.

Not a hard fix, probably a single simple if statement around the event logic.

Downside is, this means all the new ambuscade instances they put there are going to choke dynamis even worse.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-06-10 16:45:51  
Good thing dienamis is the single worst event ever created. Nothing of value lost.
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2019-06-10 16:46:15  
Went a few times to Odin on myself. Still allowing me to enter Dyna D. My alt went once, and giving me a wait time. But, when I click the entrance on me with alt in party it is still giving me the option to enter.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2019-06-10 16:48:12  
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Good thing dienamis is the single worst event ever created. Nothing of value lost.
It's also current endgame and barely playable as is. Making it even less playable to reduce amb queues is not a benefit to the game as a whole.

Leviathan.Stamos said: »
Went a few times to Odin on myself. Still allowing me to enter Dyna D. My alt went once, and giving me a wait time. But, when I click the entrance on me with alt in party it is still giving me the option to enter.
LS mate went straight to dyna to check after entering and it told him he could go in, then after zoning it changed to showing him a lockout. Not really sure what's going on with it.
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By aashafox 2019-06-10 16:50:34  
Beat him... and can't get into Dynamis-D till 6/13
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By Shiva.Siviard 2019-06-10 16:52:46  
Shiva.Spathaian said: »
Shiva.Siviard said: »
Lakshmi.Darkdoom said: »
How are you guys handling zantet x? Just using pet setup and not really worrying about it?

Puppets ate Zantet X, Odin would then start chasing the RDM. However, Odin seems to be easy to kite since he likes to stop and cast spells. It gives the PUPs plenty of time to summon new puppets to rejoin the fight.

Also, at 5%, Odin did Zantetsuken Kai, which did about 3500 dmg to my tank auto and one-shotted the RNG auto. I'm not sure if it's straight damage, or similar to 10k needles.
If it's similar to the version he uses in other versions of the fight, it's straight 95% of target's max hp. So if it's anywhere below 96% it's going to die.

Makes sense. My puppet went from 99% HP down to 4% HP, so it fits.
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2019-06-10 17:00:36  
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You've been a fantastic ally all these years, Epona's Ring. You can finally sleep now.

I've had full conversations with human beings who've been alive for less time than I've used Epona's Ring in my TP set.
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By Shiva.Siviard 2019-06-10 17:05:25  
Beat Odin, I still have access to Dynamis
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2019-06-10 17:11:12  
Supposedly the person that enters doesn't get locked out. It's everyone else lol
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By Aerix 2019-06-10 17:13:58  
Shiva.Siviard said: »
Lakshmi.Darkdoom said: »
How are you guys handling zantet x? Just using pet setup and not really worrying about it?

Also, at 5%, Odin did Zantetsuken Kai, which did about 3500 dmg to my tank auto and one-shotted the RNG auto. I'm not sure if it's straight damage, or similar to 10k needles.

Kai didn't hit the RNG maton at all, so it's either conal or single target. Zantetsuken X is 20' circle AoE and did kill my maton.

Edit: I can also confirm the Dyna-D lockout because of Odin.
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By Churanira 2019-06-10 17:29:56  
So what are the new blm merits like? does anyone know if the ancient magic II burst goes past cap or if the other options are worthwhile?
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2019-06-10 17:59:22  
m.acc is 5 per point and doesn't say it's limited to debuffs, so that should be a free 25 m.acc on all nukes.. obvious choice to me

past that, another -10(maybe 15 with relic legs?) INT to burn is neat.. aspir enhancement is situational but not bad, not sure if AM2 is worth using yet will have to wait for someone more invested in blm to weigh in
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2019-06-10 18:02:28  
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
Making it even less playable to reduce amb queues is not a benefit to the game as a whole.

Surely you don't think this is intentional, right? Feels like Odin/Divergence shared timers are just a mistake based on using a similar instanced entry system.
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By Churanira 2019-06-10 18:04:15  
i won't merit into aspir since it's already stupid easy to hit 1k+aspir with barely any gear, INT plays a small role unless you are over the mobs INT cap whateverthefuck, so from what i can see debuff pot can be worthwhile if nuking specific elements or the MAB or MB dmg might be the way to go
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2019-06-10 18:04:48  
Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Surely you don't think this is intentional, right? Feels like Odin/Divergence shared timers are just a mistake based on using a similar instanced entry system.
The timer? Obviously not intentional.

The implication is that since the timer is triggering and they're unlikely to dedicate new hardware, they're putting Odin and the secondary Ambuscade entrance into the same server as Dynamis-Divergence.

Thus, the lag issues being caused by server not keeping up will be made worse due to the same server also having to handle Odin runs and Ambuscade runs on top of Dynamis.
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By Jetackuu 2019-06-10 18:05:50  
Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
Making it even less playable to reduce amb queues is not a benefit to the game as a whole.

Surely you don't think this is intentional, right? Feels like Odin/Divergence shared timers are just a mistake based on using a similar instanced entry system.

They probably copy/pasted the logic and forgot to take the timer out is all, lol...
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2019-06-10 18:06:47  
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Supposedly the person that enters doesn't get locked out. It's everyone else lol

This does appear to be the case.

I've gone in ~5 times, all either solo/trusts or as party leader. Didn't reset my Divergence timer (went Sunday, it's still up for re-entry Wednesday).

Brought my alt in, who also went to Divergence same time as me on Sunday, and that character DID have Divergence timer reset at 72 hours.

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They probably copy/pasted the logic and forgot to take the timer out is all, lol...

You can tell they really paid attention to detail, as there is also a difficulty option of "Vrry Easy". And they left some Odin /say text in the fight untranslated in Japanese.
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By aashafox 2019-06-10 18:44:24  
Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Leviathan.Stamos said: »
Supposedly the person that enters doesn't get locked out. It's everyone else lol

This does appear to be the case.

I've gone in ~5 times, all either solo/trusts or as party leader. Didn't reset my Divergence timer (went Sunday, it's still up for re-entry Wednesday).

Brought my alt in, who also went to Divergence same time as me on Sunday, and that character DID have Divergence timer reset at 72 hours.

Jetackuu said: »
They probably copy/pasted the logic and forgot to take the timer out is all, lol...

You can tell they really paid attention to detail, as there is also a difficulty option of "Vrry Easy". And they left some Odin /say text in the fight untranslated in Japanese.

I was solo when I beat VE and I was unable to get in.
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By Ragnarok.Inx 2019-06-10 19:04:24  
BTW for anyone looking to stock up on Odin loot for alts, you're out of luck. None of his items (rings, weapons, armor) are same account sendable.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2019-06-10 19:11:01  
Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
You can tell they really paid attention to detail, as there is also a difficulty option of "Vrry Easy". And they left some Odin /say text in the fight untranslated in Japanese.

Its funny, I half interpreted that as a joke because of gear names (double rr's).
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By Asura.Aeonova 2019-06-10 19:21:24  
Ragnarok.Inx said: »
BTW for anyone looking to stock up on Odin loot for alts, you're out of luck. None of his items (rings, weapons, armor) are same account sendable.

Thanks for confirming this for me. I expect to get these items on mules from daily gobbie box that won't be able to use them now.

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