BLM / MAB Puppet

言語: JP EN DE FR
2010-06-21
New Items
users online
フォーラム » FFXI » Jobs » Puppet Master » BLM / MAB Puppet
BLM / MAB Puppet
First Page 2
 Phoenix.Diamondvr
Offline
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
user: diamondvr
Posts: 20
By Phoenix.Diamondvr 2019-02-25 23:54:50  
Weapon: Kenkoken
Head: Herculean MAB+30
Body: Herculean MAB+30
Hands: Herculean MAB+30
Legs:Pitre Churidars +3 MAB+51 MACC+48 Fast Cast +10
Feet:Pitre Babouches +3 MAB+57 MACC+43

Neck: Adad Amulet- MAB+10 MACC+20

Ear1:Enmerkar Earring- MACC+15 Damage-3%
Ear2:Burana Earring - MAB+10 Regen +2 Maneuver effects+1

Ring1: Tali'ah ring - MACC+6
Ring2: Thurandaut ring - Haste +3 Damage-3%

Back: Ambuscade JSE - MACC+30 Magic Damage+20 Haste +10 Regen +5
Waist:Ukko's Sash - MACC+15 Haste +5 Fast Cast +5

So far...
MAB+218 MACC+177 Magic Damage+20 Haste +15 Fast Cast +15 Regen +7
NEXT...ATTACHMENTS
 Lakshmi.Buukki
Offline
サーバ: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-02-26 00:07:16  
Can pet capes get 30 MAB or is that mdmg?
 Phoenix.Diamondvr
Offline
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
user: diamondvr
Posts: 20
By Phoenix.Diamondvr 2019-02-26 00:09:49  
Good catch.thanks.with my incomplete setup I've had puppet MB Apex Bats for over 95,000. Think 99,999 is possible. Will test more on other endgame content.
 Phoenix.Diamondvr
Offline
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
user: diamondvr
Posts: 20
By Phoenix.Diamondvr 2019-02-26 00:18:23  
Puppet Master Collar+2 technically better for neck with MAB+25 and mACC+25 but that's a steep price for little return.
Offline
Posts: 8
By shawkky 2019-02-26 02:16:46  
All gear looks about right though I had more M.acc, MB nuking is how I mastered my PUP. Most people either don’t know that an automaton can MB better than SMN’s in JP parties or just don’t have the patience to find out. After putting my attachments together and watching the highs and lows of automaton nuking if only they made the AI better for BLMaton(to keep up with traditional nukers) it’d be a new normal to have PUP in MB JP parties.
 Phoenix.Diamondvr
Offline
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
user: diamondvr
Posts: 20
By Phoenix.Diamondvr 2019-02-26 02:46:56  
Can have quite different augments on the three Herculean pieces if magic accuracy is desired over attack.on one of my pieces is have MACC and MAB split near +15 each with a kicker of the additional haste +2 augment I got.
 Phoenix.Diamondvr
Offline
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
user: diamondvr
Posts: 20
By Phoenix.Diamondvr 2019-02-26 02:51:34  
Alternatives

Feet: Foire Babouches +3 - MACC+50 MAB+25 Haste +5 Repair +3
Offline
Posts: 570
By dustinfoley 2019-02-26 04:49:28  
Thing is, for pup to put out good numbers you need ice maker and kenkonken. To put out just okay numbers you drop the ice maker.

Either way you are best to ditch all mp attachments and resummon every few nukes, which ultimately makes burden a pita and requires kenkonken to avoid insanity of overloading. Not to mention you need to only deploy when its nukes time.

Pup may be able to put out a single nuke stronger than a smn, but its far easier and less stressful for a smn to put out very consistent nukes.

Hopefully with the pupdate next month they fix a few of the mage attachments that are less than stellar.
[+]
 Phoenix.Diamondvr
Offline
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
user: diamondvr
Posts: 20
By Phoenix.Diamondvr 2019-02-26 05:23:21  
Pupdate..Haha. thank you. Absolutely why I started playing around with ice maker when I got kenkoken. 3 ice maneuvers and I'm seeing some respectable bursts. Alone Thunder V was averaging in the 10K range on bats. Still tinkering around.
 Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk
Offline
サーバ: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
user: Xilk
Posts: 1403
By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2019-02-26 11:19:51  
really want to get Udug ;.;
 Phoenix.Diamondvr
Offline
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
user: diamondvr
Posts: 20
By Phoenix.Diamondvr 2019-02-26 13:59:59  
Body armor drop in omen be like winning the real lottery.
 Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk
Offline
サーバ: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
user: Xilk
Posts: 1403
By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2019-02-26 14:02:53  
better odds from trove
Offline
Posts: 7
By Darcatvar 2019-02-26 14:12:32  
I am close to making the push on my PUP for JPs. I have just been solo SCing but am tempted to get into a normal party and MB.

What should my expectations be as a 500 JP pup with about 4/6 the level of gear listed above?

What is the best approach with out a KKK?
 Phoenix.Diamondvr
Offline
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
user: diamondvr
Posts: 20
By Phoenix.Diamondvr 2019-02-26 17:57:31  
Without KKK I'd say you have to be a bit more careful with overheating. Look for gear with overload rate - and or cycle the elements of maneuver,maybe light or water with ice based on attachments used. Lastly keep an eye out for Cooldown JA.

Alternates:Nibiru Sainti Path D for Magic skill +20
Midnights: Overload rate -40 and Maneuver effects +2
 Fenrir.Niflheim
VIP
Offline
サーバ: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
user: Tesahade
Posts: 435
By Fenrir.Niflheim 2019-02-26 18:32:25  
not to send you down an awful dark path i went down back in 2010... but you can get pet MAB rings from ACP11. can have up to +4 MAB.

https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Pets#Augments_that_enhance_pets under the Tenshodo Coffer rewards section.
[+]
 Phoenix.Diamondvr
Offline
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
user: diamondvr
Posts: 20
By Phoenix.Diamondvr 2019-02-26 22:02:05  
Completely overlooked Tali'ah crackows +2 as easier to obtain decent feet armor with MACC+42 and Haste +7
Offline
Posts: 7
By Darcatvar 2019-02-28 11:21:37  
So I was able to play with MBing yesterday and was doing about 55k. Still need to work on gear a bit more but was fun being able to fill that role in CP.

Question, is there something I can do to get it to guarantee casting a spell that will burst? I was trying to squeeze in two casts and I would get the thunder/blizzard casts which doesn't work with light obviously.
 Shiva.Spathaian
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Spathaian
Posts: 27982
By Shiva.Spathaian 2019-02-28 11:28:44  
Darcatvar said: »
So I was able to play with MBing yesterday and was doing about 55k. Still need to work on gear a bit more but was fun being able to fill that role in CP.

Question, is there something I can do to get it to guarantee casting a spell that will burst? I was trying to squeeze in two casts and I would get the thunder/blizzard casts which doesn't work with light obviously.
Amplifiers are the closest you'll get as far as I'm aware. Should probably be using them anyway if you're looking for MB damage since they increase it.
 Phoenix.Diamondvr
Offline
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
user: diamondvr
Posts: 20
By Phoenix.Diamondvr 2019-03-06 12:51:07  
Alternate hand option:
Regimen mittens: MACC+20 Haste +6 comes from HTB
Offline
Posts: 2231
By Nariont 2019-03-06 13:58:20  
Naga tekko is an easier/better option, mab/macc+20 on path D
necroskull Necro Bump Detected! [471 days between previous and next post]
Offline
Posts: 110
By Heghmoh 2020-06-19 17:54:41  
Bumping this thread on a dare...I haven't set my puppet to casting since toau...how strong can the little guy nuke? Can he do 15k non magic burst / 30k MB omen objectives?
 Cerberus.Jiko
Offline
サーバ: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: Jiko
Posts: 1741
By Cerberus.Jiko 2020-06-19 18:01:19  
With the right gear, yes. Geo bubbles + food at least most likely needed. Makes it much easier with cor roll.
Offline
Posts: 110
By Heghmoh 2020-06-19 19:04:10  
Cerberus.Jiko said: »
With the right gear, yes. Geo bubbles + food at least most likely needed. Makes it much easier with cor roll.


great, now i have to gear magic puppet!
 Asura.Sirris
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Safiyyah
Posts: 728
By Asura.Sirris 2020-06-19 19:14:29  
If I remember right, though, pet actions do not count towards Omen objectives? Otherwise you could easily hit them every time on summoner.
Offline
Posts: 8843
By SimonSes 2020-06-19 19:39:49  
Asura.Sirris said: »
If I remember right, though, pet actions do not count towards Omen objectives? Otherwise you could easily hit them every time on summoner.

Im pretty sure nukes from summons are something different than Puppet spells. They are JA I think, while puppet's spells are actual elemental magic and count toward Omen's objective.
Offline
Posts: 110
By Heghmoh 2020-06-19 19:41:55  
well ill report back by sunday afternoon. Already started reforges and collecting gear
 Siren.Kyte
Offline
サーバ: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3331
By Siren.Kyte 2020-06-19 19:46:14  
If you have a GEO there, you could just have them do it lol
[+]
Offline
Posts: 2231
By Nariont 2020-06-19 19:46:52  
Puppet nukes count, basically if it has a cast time it counts so puppet nukes, ninjutsu and such count but lunge/shot/bps do not
[+]
 Asura.Sirris
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Safiyyah
Posts: 728
By Asura.Sirris 2020-06-19 20:06:48  
Interesting, I didn't realize that the auto nukes would count. I don't need PUP cards anymore but that's a neat option for anyone who is willing to suffer through how damn janky Spiritreaver is lol.
 Cerberus.Jiko
Offline
サーバ: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: Jiko
Posts: 1741
By Cerberus.Jiko 2020-06-20 00:35:41  
Siren.Kyte said: »
If you have a GEO there, you could just have them do it lol

If your geo is poorly geared, they wont hit it.
First Page 2
Log in to post.