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You'll Shoot Your Eye Out! - New FFXI RNG Guide
 Ramuh.Austar
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Game: FFXI
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By Ramuh.Austar 2022-12-25 15:13:35
Non Velocity Shot Sets
Code Top valid set 60:
{'Name': 'Orion Beret +3', 'Slot': 'Head', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 18}
{'Name': 'Oshosi Vest +1', 'Slot': 'Body', 'Snapshot': 14, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Carmine Fin. Ga. +1', 'Slot': 'Hands', 'Snapshot': 8, 'RapidShot': 11}
{'Name': 'Adhemar Kecks +1', 'Slot': 'Legs', 'Snapshot': 10, 'RapidShot': 13}
{'Name': 'Meg. Jam. +2', 'Slot': 'Feet', 'Snapshot': 10, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': "Scout's Gorget +2", 'Slot': 'Neck', 'Snapshot': 4, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Impulse Belt', 'Slot': 'Waist', 'Snapshot': 3, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Crepuscular Ring', 'Slot': 'Finger', 'Snapshot': 3, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Ambuscade Cape', 'Slot': 'Back', 'Snapshot': 10, 'RapidShot': 0}
Stat sum:
42
Top valid set 55:
{'Name': 'Orion Beret +3', 'Slot': 'Head', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 18}
{'Name': 'Oshosi Vest +1', 'Slot': 'Body', 'Snapshot': 14, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Carmine Fin. Ga. +1', 'Slot': 'Hands', 'Snapshot': 8, 'RapidShot': 11}
{'Name': 'Adhemar Kecks +1', 'Slot': 'Legs', 'Snapshot': 10, 'RapidShot': 13}
{'Name': 'Meg. Jam. +2', 'Slot': 'Feet', 'Snapshot': 10, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Empty', 'Slot': 'Neck', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Yemaya Belt', 'Slot': 'Waist', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 5}
{'Name': 'Crepuscular Ring', 'Slot': 'Finger', 'Snapshot': 3, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Ambuscade Cape', 'Slot': 'Back', 'Snapshot': 10, 'RapidShot': 0}
Stat sum:
47
Top valid set 50:
{'Name': 'Orion Beret +3', 'Slot': 'Head', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 18}
{'Name': 'Oshosi Vest +1', 'Slot': 'Body', 'Snapshot': 14, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Carmine Fin. Ga. +1', 'Slot': 'Hands', 'Snapshot': 8, 'RapidShot': 11}
{'Name': 'Adhemar Kecks +1', 'Slot': 'Legs', 'Snapshot': 10, 'RapidShot': 13}
{'Name': 'Arcadian Socks +3', 'Slot': 'Feet', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 10}
{'Name': "Scout's Gorget +2", 'Slot': 'Neck', 'Snapshot': 4, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Impulse Belt', 'Slot': 'Waist', 'Snapshot': 3, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Crepuscular Ring', 'Slot': 'Finger', 'Snapshot': 3, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Ambuscade Cape', 'Slot': 'Back', 'Snapshot': 10, 'RapidShot': 0}
Stat sum:
52
Top valid set 45:
{'Name': 'Orion Beret +3', 'Slot': 'Head', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 18}
{'Name': 'Arc. Jerkin +3', 'Slot': 'Body', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 16}
{'Name': 'Carmine Fin. Ga. +1', 'Slot': 'Hands', 'Snapshot': 8, 'RapidShot': 11}
{'Name': 'Adhemar Kecks +1', 'Slot': 'Legs', 'Snapshot': 10, 'RapidShot': 13}
{'Name': 'Meg. Jam. +2', 'Slot': 'Feet', 'Snapshot': 10, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': "Scout's Gorget +2", 'Slot': 'Neck', 'Snapshot': 4, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Yemaya Belt', 'Slot': 'Waist', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 5}
{'Name': 'Crepuscular Ring', 'Slot': 'Finger', 'Snapshot': 3, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Ambuscade Cape', 'Slot': 'Back', 'Snapshot': 10, 'RapidShot': 0}
Stat sum:
63
Top valid set 40:
{'Name': 'Orion Beret +3', 'Slot': 'Head', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 18}
{'Name': 'Arc. Jerkin +3', 'Slot': 'Body', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 16}
{'Name': 'Carmine Fin. Ga. +1', 'Slot': 'Hands', 'Snapshot': 8, 'RapidShot': 11}
{'Name': 'Adhemar Kecks +1', 'Slot': 'Legs', 'Snapshot': 10, 'RapidShot': 13}
{'Name': "Ikenga's Clogs", 'Slot': 'Feet', 'Snapshot': 5, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': "Scout's Gorget +2", 'Slot': 'Neck', 'Snapshot': 4, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Yemaya Belt', 'Slot': 'Waist', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 5}
{'Name': 'Crepuscular Ring', 'Slot': 'Finger', 'Snapshot': 3, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Ambuscade Cape', 'Slot': 'Back', 'Snapshot': 10, 'RapidShot': 0}
Stat sum:
63
Top valid set 35:
{'Name': 'Orion Beret +3', 'Slot': 'Head', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 18}
{'Name': 'Arc. Jerkin +3', 'Slot': 'Body', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 16}
{'Name': 'Carmine Fin. Ga. +1', 'Slot': 'Hands', 'Snapshot': 8, 'RapidShot': 11}
{'Name': 'Adhemar Kecks +1', 'Slot': 'Legs', 'Snapshot': 10, 'RapidShot': 13}
{'Name': 'Arcadian Socks +3', 'Slot': 'Feet', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 10}
{'Name': "Scout's Gorget +2", 'Slot': 'Neck', 'Snapshot': 4, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Yemaya Belt', 'Slot': 'Waist', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 5}
{'Name': 'Crepuscular Ring', 'Slot': 'Finger', 'Snapshot': 3, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Ambuscade Cape', 'Slot': 'Back', 'Snapshot': 10, 'RapidShot': 0}
Stat sum:
73
Top valid set 30:
{'Name': 'Orion Beret +3', 'Slot': 'Head', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 18}
{'Name': 'Arc. Jerkin +3', 'Slot': 'Body', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 16}
{'Name': 'Carmine Fin. Ga. +1', 'Slot': 'Hands', 'Snapshot': 8, 'RapidShot': 11}
{'Name': 'Adhemar Kecks +1', 'Slot': 'Legs', 'Snapshot': 10, 'RapidShot': 13}
{'Name': 'Arcadian Socks +3', 'Slot': 'Feet', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 10}
{'Name': 'Empty', 'Slot': 'Neck', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Yemaya Belt', 'Slot': 'Waist', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 5}
{'Name': 'Crepuscular Ring', 'Slot': 'Finger', 'Snapshot': 3, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Ambuscade Cape', 'Slot': 'Back', 'Snapshot': 10, 'RapidShot': 0}
Stat sum:
73
Top valid set 25:
{'Name': 'Orion Beret +3', 'Slot': 'Head', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 18}
{'Name': 'Arc. Jerkin +3', 'Slot': 'Body', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 16}
{'Name': 'Carmine Fin. Ga. +1', 'Slot': 'Hands', 'Snapshot': 8, 'RapidShot': 11}
{'Name': "Pursuer's Pants", 'Slot': 'Legs', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 19}
{'Name': 'Arcadian Socks +3', 'Slot': 'Feet', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 10}
{'Name': "Scout's Gorget +2", 'Slot': 'Neck', 'Snapshot': 4, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Yemaya Belt', 'Slot': 'Waist', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 5}
{'Name': 'Crepuscular Ring', 'Slot': 'Finger', 'Snapshot': 3, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Ambuscade Cape', 'Slot': 'Back', 'Snapshot': 10, 'RapidShot': 0}
Stat sum:
79
Top valid set 20:
{'Name': 'Orion Beret +3', 'Slot': 'Head', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 18}
{'Name': 'Arc. Jerkin +3', 'Slot': 'Body', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 16}
{'Name': 'Carmine Fin. Ga. +1', 'Slot': 'Hands', 'Snapshot': 8, 'RapidShot': 11}
{'Name': "Pursuer's Pants", 'Slot': 'Legs', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 19}
{'Name': 'Arcadian Socks +3', 'Slot': 'Feet', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 10}
{'Name': 'Empty', 'Slot': 'Neck', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Yemaya Belt', 'Slot': 'Waist', 'Snapshot': 0, 'RapidShot': 5}
{'Name': 'Crepuscular Ring', 'Slot': 'Finger', 'Snapshot': 3, 'RapidShot': 0}
{'Name': 'Ambuscade Cape', 'Slot': 'Back', 'Snapshot': 10, 'RapidShot': 0}
Stat sum:
79
Edit: Forgot about Relic +3 body, updated some sets.
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By Asura.Toralin 2022-12-25 18:42:19
Armageddon AM midcast sets? anyone got something up to date?
Bahamut.Bizarro
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Posts: 230
By Bahamut.Bizarro 2022-12-25 20:12:48
This is what Im using atm. Im sure there are better.
Code sets.midcast.RA.Armageddon.AM = {head="Meghanada Visor +2",
body="Nisroch jerkin",
hands="Mummu Wrists +2",
legs="Darraigner's Brais",
feet="Oshosi Leggings +1",
neck={ name="Scout's Gorget +2", augments={'Path: A',}},
waist="K. Kachina Belt +1",
left_ear="Telos Earring",
right_ear="Odr Earring",
left_ring="Ilabrat Ring",
right_ring="Begrudging Ring",
back=gear.tp_AM_ranger_jse_back}
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By Asura.Auxtaru 2022-12-25 23:21:25
My current Aftermath set for Arma/Gandiva:
sets.midcast.RA.AM = {
head="Meghanada Visor +2", -- Crit damage 12% (Dead Aim 12)
body="Nisroch Jerkin", -- Crit rate 10%
hands="Mummu Wrists +2", -- Crit rate 6%
legs="Amini Bragues +3", -- Crit rate 6%, 12stp, ratk, racc, loss of 6% Crit damage vs Darraingers
feet="Oshosi Leggings +1", -- Crit rate 10%
--feet={ name="Arcadian Socks +3", augments={'Enhances "Stealth Shot" effect',}}, --lose 2 crit rate, 7 rAcc, 5 AGI but gain 81 rAtk
neck="Scout's Gorget +2",
waist="K. Kachina Belt +1", -- Crit rate 5%
left_ear="Odr Earring", -- Crit rate 5%
right_ear={ name="Amini Earring +1", augments={'System: 1 ID: 1676 Val: 0','Accuracy+11','Mag. Acc.+11','Crit.hit rate+3',}}, -- Crit rate 3%
left_ring="Mummu Ring", -- Crit rate 3%
right_ring="Begrudging Ring", -- Crit rate 5%
back={ name="Belenus's Cape", augments={'AGI+20','Rng.Acc.+20 Rng.Atk.+20','AGI+10','Crit.hit rate+10','Phys. dmg. taken-10%',}}, -- Crit rate 10%
} -- Crit rate 63% and Crit damage 12%
Also my set with Double Shot and AM up at the same time:
sets.midcast.RA.DSAM = {
head="Meghanada Visor +2", -- Crit damage 12% (Dead Aim 12)
--head="Oshosi Mask +1", -- DS 6 // DSdmg 24
hands="Oshosi Gloves +1", -- DS 5
--hands="Mummu Wrists +2", -- Crit rate 6%
body={ name="Arc. Jerkin +3", augments={'Enhances "Snapshot" effect',}}, -- DS upgrade // DSdmg 11
legs="Oshosi Trousers +1", -- DS 7
feet="Oshosi Leggings +1", -- DS 4 and Crit rate 10%
neck="Scout's Gorget +2",
waist="K. Kachina Belt +1", -- Crit rate 5%
left_ear="Odr Earring", -- Crit rate 5%
right_ear={ name="Amini Earring +1", augments={'System: 1 ID: 1676 Val: 0','Accuracy+11','Mag. Acc.+11','Crit.hit rate+3',}}, -- Crit rate 3%
left_ring="Mummu Ring", -- Crit rate 3%
right_ring="Begrudging Ring", -- Crit rate 5%
back={ name="Belenus's Cape", augments={'AGI+20','Rng.Acc.+20 Rng.Atk.+20','AGI+10','Crit.hit rate+10','Phys. dmg. taken-10%',}}, -- Crit rate 10%
} -- DS 16 // DSdmg 11 and Crit rate 41% and Crit damage 12%
You can see the items that I am debating about swapping in too there. Oshosi Head and Mummu Hands should be better? But just felt worse on Arebati v20, as unscientific as it is. May add them back in and try again. Figure v25 will give a large enough sample size to compare.
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By Vaerix 2022-12-26 01:13:23
My current Aftermath set for Arma/Gandiva:
sets.midcast.RA.AM = {
head="Meghanada Visor +2", -- Crit damage 12% (Dead Aim 12)
body="Nisroch Jerkin", -- Crit rate 10%
hands="Mummu Wrists +2", -- Crit rate 6%
legs="Amini Bragues +3", -- Crit rate 6%, 12stp, ratk, racc, loss of 6% Crit damage vs Darraingers
feet="Oshosi Leggings +1", -- Crit rate 10%
--feet={ name="Arcadian Socks +3", augments={'Enhances "Stealth Shot" effect',}}, --lose 2 crit rate, 7 rAcc, 5 AGI but gain 81 rAtk
neck="Scout's Gorget +2",
waist="K. Kachina Belt +1", -- Crit rate 5%
left_ear="Odr Earring", -- Crit rate 5%
right_ear={ name="Amini Earring +1", augments={'System: 1 ID: 1676 Val: 0','Accuracy+11','Mag. Acc.+11','Crit.hit rate+3',}}, -- Crit rate 3%
left_ring="Mummu Ring", -- Crit rate 3%
right_ring="Begrudging Ring", -- Crit rate 5%
back={ name="Belenus's Cape", augments={'AGI+20','Rng.Acc.+20 Rng.Atk.+20','AGI+10','Crit.hit rate+10','Phys. dmg. taken-10%',}}, -- Crit rate 10%
} -- Crit rate 63% and Crit damage 12%
Also my set with Double Shot and AM up at the same time:
sets.midcast.RA.DSAM = {
head="Meghanada Visor +2", -- Crit damage 12% (Dead Aim 12)
--head="Oshosi Mask +1", -- DS 6 // DSdmg 24
hands="Oshosi Gloves +1", -- DS 5
--hands="Mummu Wrists +2", -- Crit rate 6%
body={ name="Arc. Jerkin +3", augments={'Enhances "Snapshot" effect',}}, -- DS upgrade // DSdmg 11
legs="Oshosi Trousers +1", -- DS 7
feet="Oshosi Leggings +1", -- DS 4 and Crit rate 10%
neck="Scout's Gorget +2",
waist="K. Kachina Belt +1", -- Crit rate 5%
left_ear="Odr Earring", -- Crit rate 5%
right_ear={ name="Amini Earring +1", augments={'System: 1 ID: 1676 Val: 0','Accuracy+11','Mag. Acc.+11','Crit.hit rate+3',}}, -- Crit rate 3%
left_ring="Mummu Ring", -- Crit rate 3%
right_ring="Begrudging Ring", -- Crit rate 5%
back={ name="Belenus's Cape", augments={'AGI+20','Rng.Acc.+20 Rng.Atk.+20','AGI+10','Crit.hit rate+10','Phys. dmg. taken-10%',}}, -- Crit rate 10%
} -- DS 16 // DSdmg 11 and Crit rate 41% and Crit damage 12%
You can see the items that I am debating about swapping in too there. Oshosi Head and Mummu Hands should be better? But just felt worse on Arebati v20, as unscientific as it is. May add them back in and try again. Figure v25 will give a large enough sample size to compare.
Just something I noticed, your sets are pretty light on DT especially with including Begrudging Ring, If ring is giving you +5% crit rate, you're canceling out your entire cape. Empy legs is a great piece to pick up dt, and I'd go as far as to say empy hands would be worthwhile over both pieces to pick up another 10 dt at +2,11 at +3 and gives the 1% empy proc as a small bonus. V20 that raaz hurt, but if you're not having issues with the raaz I guess it's not that big of a deal.
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By Asura.Auxtaru 2022-12-26 07:58:45
I do have a DT override toggle in my LUA (much like Cure DT sets fot healers), but seldom have had to use it. On v20, since we did not have such great shooting DT gear a year ago, I actually ran Relic for the first 20% while also building up Hovershot, and switched to Empy at 77-78%. That way when add spawned it actually went to the COR, and then the BRD was able to isolate the add and kite it downstairs while the RNG focused on keeping up DPS and did not have to be concerned with getting any aggro at all. Also allows for a slightly later Caper use to really make it a simple fight.
DT override consists of Empy Hands, Legs, D Ring, and Cape for 44 PDT.
For v25, I am not too certain how we will approach it. We have not decided to attempt Arebati yet, but yeah, DT might be required for all if the adds are allowed to just run wild. Relic strat may still be valid though if the extra regen prolongs the fight enough that a later caper is required.
 Asura.Jokes
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By Asura.Jokes 2023-01-03 11:03:02
My current Aftermath set for Arma/Gandiva:
sets.midcast.RA.AM = {
head="Meghanada Visor +2", -- Crit damage 12% (Dead Aim 12)
body="Nisroch Jerkin", -- Crit rate 10%
hands="Mummu Wrists +2", -- Crit rate 6%
legs="Amini Bragues +3", -- Crit rate 6%, 12stp, ratk, racc, loss of 6% Crit damage vs Darraingers
feet="Oshosi Leggings +1", -- Crit rate 10%
--feet={ name="Arcadian Socks +3", augments={'Enhances "Stealth Shot" effect',}}, --lose 2 crit rate, 7 rAcc, 5 AGI but gain 81 rAtk
neck="Scout's Gorget +2",
waist="K. Kachina Belt +1", -- Crit rate 5%
left_ear="Odr Earring", -- Crit rate 5%
right_ear={ name="Amini Earring +1", augments={'System: 1 ID: 1676 Val: 0','Accuracy+11','Mag. Acc.+11','Crit.hit rate+3',}}, -- Crit rate 3%
left_ring="Mummu Ring", -- Crit rate 3%
right_ring="Begrudging Ring", -- Crit rate 5%
back={ name="Belenus's Cape", augments={'AGI+20','Rng.Acc.+20 Rng.Atk.+20','AGI+10','Crit.hit rate+10','Phys. dmg. taken-10%',}}, -- Crit rate 10%
} -- Crit rate 63% and Crit damage 12%
Also my set with Double Shot and AM up at the same time:
sets.midcast.RA.DSAM = {
head="Meghanada Visor +2", -- Crit damage 12% (Dead Aim 12)
--head="Oshosi Mask +1", -- DS 6 // DSdmg 24
hands="Oshosi Gloves +1", -- DS 5
--hands="Mummu Wrists +2", -- Crit rate 6%
body={ name="Arc. Jerkin +3", augments={'Enhances "Snapshot" effect',}}, -- DS upgrade // DSdmg 11
legs="Oshosi Trousers +1", -- DS 7
feet="Oshosi Leggings +1", -- DS 4 and Crit rate 10%
neck="Scout's Gorget +2",
waist="K. Kachina Belt +1", -- Crit rate 5%
left_ear="Odr Earring", -- Crit rate 5%
right_ear={ name="Amini Earring +1", augments={'System: 1 ID: 1676 Val: 0','Accuracy+11','Mag. Acc.+11','Crit.hit rate+3',}}, -- Crit rate 3%
left_ring="Mummu Ring", -- Crit rate 3%
right_ring="Begrudging Ring", -- Crit rate 5%
back={ name="Belenus's Cape", augments={'AGI+20','Rng.Acc.+20 Rng.Atk.+20','AGI+10','Crit.hit rate+10','Phys. dmg. taken-10%',}}, -- Crit rate 10%
} -- DS 16 // DSdmg 11 and Crit rate 41% and Crit damage 12%
You can see the items that I am debating about swapping in too there. Oshosi Head and Mummu Hands should be better? But just felt worse on Arebati v20, as unscientific as it is. May add them back in and try again. Figure v25 will give a large enough sample size to compare.
Has anyone done testing on the best combo for AM3 Double Shot? Seems difficult to decide what to prioritise.
Shiva.Flowen
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By Shiva.Flowen 2023-01-08 18:22:00
For last stand.. amini caban +3 when you arent attack capped, ikenga's vest when you are attack capped, nyame mail when attack capped and at 3k tp (or amini again for the higher agl and pdl..)?
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By Carbuncle.Samuraiking 2023-01-13 01:16:26
Curious about some Hot Shot disparities between my COR and RNG.
I run Odyssey B seg farms on COR a lot lately and on most mobs that are neutral, I'll do around 40k Hotshots with just me and the BRD as buffers, no GEO. On fire weak mobs I'll do 60k or so, and on fire weak mobs that are also pierce weak like the big birds, I'll even hit 75k+ most of the time. Insane damage, which I am loving.
The problem is, when I switch over to RNG, I do horrible Hot Shots. On those same mobs I will do closer to 15k/30k/40k, basically less than half of what my COR does. Both are using Fomalhaut R15 and virtually the same gear for WS across the board. The only real difference is COR gets Lanun Boots which is 2% WSD more than my R20 and 25MAB extra, and while that is a big deal, it shouldn't be Double+ damage difference. Obviously JSE backs are different but same stats, and JSE necks are slightly different stats.
The rest of our group has a lot of variety in jobs and also have well geared RNG and COR and have noticed their RNGs also do ***Hot Shots. The big difference with them though is that their CORs can't match what mine is doing either, and mine isn't better geared than theirs and they use basically the same gear as me.
Is there some kind of trait or something we just aren't paying attention to that makes RNG and COR so vastly different in this regard, or since my friends can't replicate this on their CORs, am I the one who is actually an outlier and broken(in a good way)?
For reference, my RNG set is: This.
My COR set is: This.
By SimonSes 2023-01-13 02:54:40
Carbuncle.Samuraiking said: »Curious about some Hot Shot disparities between my COR and RNG.
I run Odyssey B seg farms on COR a lot lately and on most mobs that are neutral, I'll do around 40k Hotshots with just me and the BRD as buffers, no GEO. On fire weak mobs I'll do 60k or so, and on fire weak mobs that are also pierce weak like the big birds, I'll even hit 75k+ most of the time. Insane damage, which I am loving.
The problem is, when I switch over to RNG, I do horrible Hot Shots. On those same mobs I will do closer to 15k/30k/40k, basically less than half of what my COR does. Both are using Fomalhaut R15 and virtually the same gear for WS across the board. The only real difference is COR gets Lanun Boots which is 2% WSD more than my R20 and 25MAB extra, and while that is a big deal, it shouldn't be Double+ damage difference. Obviously JSE backs are different but same stats, and JSE necks are slightly different stats.
The rest of our group has a lot of variety in jobs and also have well geared RNG and COR and have noticed their RNGs also do ***Hot Shots. The big difference with them though is that their CORs can't match what mine is doing either, and mine isn't better geared than theirs and they use basically the same gear as me.
Is there some kind of trait or something we just aren't paying attention to that makes RNG and COR so vastly different in this regard, or since my friends can't replicate this on their CORs, am I the one who is actually an outlier and broken(in a good way)?
For reference, my RNG set is: This.
My COR set is: This.
You should be doing almost the same, since RNG would have higher attack/pdl and you are probably not capped on COR too.
More than likely it's a gear swapping issue. Type //gs debugmode and check if there are problems with equipping gear and what set is equipping for hotshot.
By Veydal1 2023-01-13 03:31:12
//gs equip sets.precast.WS['Hot Shot']
Make sure the name of your Hot Shot set is correct when doing the above. It's case sensitive.
See what it equips. You might be equipping a set that you don't have properly defined in the lua. For example, a ...['Hot Shot'].Acc set or something similiar.
Had this exact issue in the past actually with Hot Shot. I was using Hot Shot for SCing on Ongo I think it was, and to prevent missing, I configured a .Acc set for Hot Shot that was used strictly to land for SC purposes, not damage. Unfortunately I didn't realize I was forcing a "match" between my TP mode and WS mode. Outside of this setting, I was getting lower numbers than expected. It was because while I was in .Acc TP set, it was matching my .Acc WS set if defined. I didn't have other .Acc WS sets, so they weren't experiencing the same issue.
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By Carbuncle.Samuraiking 2023-01-13 05:05:45
I've checked both showswaps and equipviewer, all gear is swapping in every time. One of the other RNG friends actually refuses to use any addons, so he doesn't use a lua at all. He uses in-game macros and equipsets, and has the exact same issue with RNG as the rest of us.
The .Acc modifier on sets is interesting, because I do use those, but I never change any of my sets during Odyssey, Sheol B is a joke and I run my default gear. Again, I have checked to make sure the proper stuff is swapping in, just pointing out that it's not an issue since I removed 'Match' from all my luas a long time ago. After I started running COR for statues in Dynamis and realized I wanted a special ws set, but different tp set and it's easier to manually choose every time.
From personal experience, my potential issue aside, do you guys actually do similar dmg with hybrid ranged ws on both jobs or even more on RNG? Because for the life of me I can not and have no idea what is happening. Theoretically, RNG should be doing more, absolutely not HALF.
Everything else with RNG is fine. TF is great, Last Stand is Last Stand, but it's definitely better on RNG than COR. It's just Hot Shot specifically. I pretty much never do Wildfire though, so maybe I should test that and make sure it's not different as well.
By SimonSes 2023-01-13 05:52:49
COR has 14 more base MAB and there is that difference on necks and boots too, but that mab advantage shouldnt be more than +10-15% damage. Now if you are at capped attack, RNG has PDL trait advantage of +0.2 and +10% on neck, which pretty much should nullify all the mab advantage on COR.
Wildfire would be higher damage on COR, since it's not hybrid, but magic WS non based on ratt at all, so COR has same MAB advantage with RNG having nothing to counter them.
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By Bahamut.Greyfawkz 2023-01-17 09:28:23
Anyone have a good hovershot counter/lua to count yalms/stacks?
By SimonSes 2023-01-17 09:50:13
There was one posted here before.
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By Nehot 2023-01-17 10:05:10
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サーバ: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 449
By Bahamut.Greyfawkz 2023-01-17 10:24:19
Thanks guys, will give it a try again. I used it for a bit, then my game would randomly crash mid fight. Will see if that's still the case.
By Bizzarostormy 2023-01-17 12:23:11
are you set to run 60fps? I would always crash using this plugin while I was set to "60 fps" never found a workaround for it.
サーバ: Asura
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By Asura.Auxtaru 2023-01-17 12:59:29
Crashed with the plug in as well quite often. Some fights like Kei were a guaranteed crash it seemed, and had it occur on some Odyssey T1 we were farming RP on and never used it since. A crash on Arebati would be quite unfortunate. Worked great otherwise though.
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By Bahamut.Greyfawkz 2023-01-17 13:10:01
are you set to run 60fps? I would always crash using this plugin while I was set to "60 fps" never found a workaround for it.
Yeah, I do play with 60fps and if playing in 30fps is required that's a nope from me haha.
 Phoenix.Capuchin
サーバ: Phoenix
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2023-01-17 17:56:59
Messing around with Fail-Not. Anyone have a current Apex Arrow target set? Is it basically just Last Stand set with swapping Fotia Belt out for a different choice? (which would be what, Kwahu Kachina +1?)
Also curious if people have run into situations where switching to Apex Arrow and bow was worth it. I'm thinking specifically about high def mobs and perhaps less than optimal buffs/debuffs, where Apex's ignore defense may come in handy. Or is it a futile effort, and better to just stick with Marksmanship (or the occasional niche use case for Flaming Arrow)?
Phoenix.Iocus
サーバ: Phoenix
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2023-01-17 20:35:59
I was playing with Refulgent Arrow a while back and wanted to make a Fail-Not because the numbers were actually ok. I haven't ever had success with Apex
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サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
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By Odin.Demhar 2023-01-18 11:56:01
You can hit some nice numbers with Refulgent Arrow especially on True Shot distance. Apex Arrow is pretty...
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2023-01-19 00:48:29
I guess my thought on Apex Arrow was to see whether there is any practical use on particularly high defense mobs, especially if you don't have max buffs, since it's RNG's best "ignores defense" option. Would be niche for sure, but maybe some specific use cases? For example, maybe in a Sheol Gaol NM fight where you don't have all of BRD COR GEO. Or IDK whether any Sortie targets might be high enough defense to make Apex a consideration.
RNG's only other ignores defense options are Split Shot and Piercing Arrow, both of which are considerably worse than Apex. Apex gets 4x damage and ignores defense, and gets the Fail-Not augment buff from being the associated WS. Split/Piercing also probably have worse TP mods (0%/35%/50% at 1000/2000/3000tp); Apex's TP mods aren't even shown on BG, which just lists 1000tp as 15% def ignored, and ??? for 2000 and 3000 tp. Anyone know those?
Anyway I might be searching for a niche that doesn't exist, just trying to test out some creative uses for Fail-Not and messing around with Archery.
By Afania 2023-01-20 14:17:19
Carbuncle.Samuraiking said: »The rest of our group has a lot of variety in jobs and also have well geared RNG and COR and have noticed their RNGs also do ***Hot Shots. The big difference with them though is that their CORs can't match what mine is doing either, and mine isn't better geared than theirs and they use basically the same gear as me.
Is your pdif/food/ML always the same when you switch jobs around?
(Fyi in different pt pdif is rarely identical because everyone has different playstyle)
If you are doing more potent rolls/CC on chaos when you are on COR but the other guy isn't doing same level of buff potency then you will see damage differences with the same gears and job.
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By Nehot 2023-01-22 11:19:28
Does anyone know if the -enmity on hover shot stacks with gear -enmity?
Also does anyone have a Gandiva AM3 midshot set specifically for Arebati (v25)?
Currently doing testing of my own in game just would like a set to compare.
By Nariont 2023-01-22 11:56:26
So far as anyone knows, its all gear enmity, same as the silliness with emp hat and double shot, not sure if any real testings been done on either to confirm
By Nariont 2023-01-22 17:11:43
The only ability/trait that i know works seperately is tranquil heart, everything else iirc just applies gear enmity, though apparently stealth shot is seperate, and camo is unknown
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