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By Anna Ruthven 2018-12-12 11:31:02  
Node 285

Long overdue.
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By fonewear 2018-12-12 11:31:27  
This thread isn't locked yet ?
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-12-12 11:32:23  
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This thread isn't locked yet ?
I really should.
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By Viciouss 2018-12-12 11:32:41  
Really? People are posting on a Wednesday and you lock it mid conversation? What a troll!!!!!
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By Nausi 2018-12-12 11:50:58  
Worst mod ever.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-12-12 12:07:15  
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Really? People are posting on a Wednesday and you lock it mid conversation? What a troll!!!!!

We'll, it was either now or in three months when him or another mod decided to finally log on again.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2018-12-12 12:31:34  
OP is literally Hillary.
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By Nausi 2018-12-12 12:44:06  
Where were we?

Oh yeah, of course people want the wall, Democrats and liberals want open borders and to flood the country with criminals. The media is out with tmtheir fake polls just like their fake polls of 2016 and 2018 to try and fabricate new talking points for the dems.

Voter fraud happens all the time and it almost exclusiveky benefits democrats, (which is why they don’t want to do anything about it.

Oh and Trump isn’t going to jail. He didn’t commit any crime.
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By Zerowone 2018-12-12 12:47:35  
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OP is literally Hillary.


Damn nearly three years to the day.
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By Caitsith.Shiroi 2018-12-12 12:48:45  
Maybe Nausi is Nostradamus.

Is mexico still paying for that wall?
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By Viciouss 2018-12-12 12:52:31  
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Maybe Nausi is Nostradamus.

Is mexico still paying for that wall?

As it turns out, nausi's favorite hyper partisan poll was the least accurate of all the pollsters when predicting the 2018 election. But hey, conspiracy theorists have to stick together.
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By Nausi 2018-12-12 13:01:38  
That predicted Bluewave was so blue, it produced a red gain in the Senate. #Polls
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By Viciouss 2018-12-12 13:03:16  
In other words, all the polls predicted the election accurately, except trump's favorite.
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By Nausi 2018-12-12 13:06:53  
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In other words, all the polls predicted the election accurately, except trump's favorite.
Incorrect. I’m not gonna let you “social construct” your way into your own fantasy where voter fraud doesn’t happen, Trump is done, and the American people don’t want border security.
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By Viciouss 2018-12-12 13:15:14  
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In other words, all the polls predicted the election accurately, except trump's favorite.
Incorrect. I’m not gonna let you “social construct” your way into your own fantasy where voter fraud doesn’t happen, Trump is done, and the American people don’t want border security.

Ok, start by posting a poll that didn't predict the election results with reasonable accuracy. Try to post a credible poll, I know that's hard for you, but don't use some local newspaper. How about 538?
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By Zerowone 2018-12-12 13:25:09  
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That predicted Bluewave was so blue, it produced a red gain in the Senate. #Polls

Gained seats from traditionally red: Indiana, North Dakota and Missouri.

Wow. Such gains.

Lot of Red seats up for grabs next round. Might want to clutch them pearls and hold onto your biscuits.
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By Nausi 2018-12-12 13:25:21  
I can point to hundreds of polls taken before the election that didn’t get the election result correct. They started reporting them in 2017. All indicating a blue wave that simply did not happen.

Why do you think they started reporting these incorrect predictions in 2017?
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By Nausi 2018-12-12 13:28:36  
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Nausi said: »
That predicted Bluewave was so blue, it produced a red gain in the Senate. #Polls

Gained seats from traditionally red: Indiana, North Dakota and Missouri.

Wow. Such gains.

Lot of Red seats up for grabs next round. Might want to clutch them pearls and hold onto your biscuits.
Zero, your seats over there at the kids table
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By Viciouss 2018-12-12 13:28:57  
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I can point to hundreds of polls taken before the election that didn’t get the election result correct. They started reporting them in 2017. All indicating a blue wave that simply did not happen.

Why do you think they started reporting these incorrect predictions in 2017?

At this point I am looking for you to start with one. Just one nausi.
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By Zerowone 2018-12-12 13:31:05  
Nausi, your seats over there on the short bus.
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By Viciouss 2018-12-12 13:31:28  
Its ok to phone a friend, why not ask Rav to help you? How many of the final polls before the election predicted the actual outcome with reasonable accuracy?
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By Nausi 2018-12-12 13:35:37  
Realclearpolitics.com

The pollig charts go all the way back to 2017 bud

Heres a ppp poll from 2017 that had generic support at 49/38. Was this accurate?
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By Nausi 2018-12-12 13:37:28  
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Its ok to phone a friend, why not ask Rav to help you? How many of the final polls before the election predicted the actual outcome with reasonable accuracy?
Hur dur now you move the goalpost to “final” election polls, does that mean you conceed the premise that all the ones BEFORE that round were all horseshit?
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By Caitsith.Shiroi 2018-12-12 13:53:07  
Nausi said: »
poll from 2017 that had generic support at 49/38. Was this accurate?

If the elections were going to happen at that moment in time, maybe?
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By fonewear 2018-12-12 13:54:02  
That's it Michael Coen is finished...unless Trump pardons him or something !
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By Viciouss 2018-12-12 13:56:34  
Uh, wow. I can't believe you are talking about 2017 polls. I mean, I guess its my fault for not taking the time to specify the actual final election polls, I guess I assumed you got that, my mistake. Wow.

No nausi, nobody gives a ***about 2017. But that doesn't mean any of them were horseshit, lol. Hell, I'm sure every pollster showed different predictions in August 2018, except maybe Rasmussen. Of course that doesn't mean they were horseshit, except Rasmussen. Who would have thought they would narrow by the time the election rolled around? Again, wow.

Of course I am talking about the final election polls. And no, its not moving the goalposts, I have always been talking about the final election polls. And guess what? They were all accurate, except Rasmussen, of course.

I award you no points nausi.
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By Viciouss 2018-12-12 13:57:00  
fonewear said: »
That's it Michael Coen is finished...unless Trump pardons him or something !

That's great man, no more Coen movies? Works for me.
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By Nausi 2018-12-12 14:04:02  
No they werent accurate either, but Im so glad we boh agree that polls release prior to election time aren't really accurate (like all these liberal pres approval polls)

Furthermore to the matter at hand, was this cnn +13 poll accurate?
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By Zerowone 2018-12-12 14:05:58  
404 file not found doggo. That’s a user error notification. Can’t be that hard to copy and paste.
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By Viciouss 2018-12-12 14:09:02  
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Furthermore to the matter at hand, was this cnn +13 poll accurate?

Reasonably close. Do you actually know the final tally?
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