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 Leviathan.Comeatmebro
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2018-07-04 08:43:34  
If MNK weapon is anything to judge by, the new weapons won't really be unseating RMEA. Slightly better white damage than godhands, but 50 acc/att and 10 DT doesn't make up for 500 tp bonus and 10 store tp, especially with how often players are sitting at capped acc/att.

Maybe they will be useful in a hybrid build, but I have to think there are more effective swaps.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-07-04 08:44:45  
Those weapons smell like a colossal failure. Like, even square colossal failure standards don't cover it.

Not only do you have to beat the bosses, but the HQ2 Versions of the weapons are still weaker than Aeonics.

The "standard" NQ weapons are only Su3 and they showed off the Su5 versions... imagine how bad the Su3 ones are.

.... oh come on. It's funny. Delete my pic u_u
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 Leviathan.Comeatmebro
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2018-07-04 08:56:50  
If they're straight synths, the "standard" NQ weapons won't exist. Everyone with the appropriate KI is guaranteed to be able to force HQ/break with shield enchantment.
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By Asura.Topace 2018-07-04 09:01:27  
I can help but feel some type of way about that weapon. They did all this hyping to serve us that dead fish. The best that weapon will be of use to be is a High HP DT set but even then it's not good enough to warrant the 10's on Millions it's going to cost.

And I probably have everything BiS for MNK outside of Ken Body and Head+1 and I don't even have MNK past 150JP. That weapon doesn't make me want to CP it any faster.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-07-04 09:45:59  
Superior 5 gear at 2100 JP???? Give me a break..... Stop milking that garbage.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-07-04 10:50:22  
Wait weren't these supposed to make all the REMA owners sad and cry inside and make the Aeonic owners go throw them away in Jueno or something?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-07-04 10:51:24  
Absolutely nobody said that about these weapons
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-07-04 10:56:04  
Yeah the player community didn't totally over-hype these as replacements for REMA's.
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-07-04 11:00:17  
You're right, they didn't. The Aeonic moaning predictions were about when REMs got upgraded and Aeonics didn't, not from Dynamis weapons.
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By dinotron 2018-07-04 11:18:57  
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
If MNK weapon is anything to judge by, the new weapons won't really be unseating RMEA. Slightly better white damage than godhands, but 50 acc/att and 10 DT doesn't make up for 500 tp bonus and 10 store tp, especially with how often players are sitting at capped acc/att

Not sure if it was ever clarified, but in the translation by
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I got a bit mixed up during this section, as they were also talking about RMEA weapons, but were talking at length about augments.. Not sure whether in reference to REM or Div, or both... (Had the new weapons zoomed in on screen. So could actually be both maybe?)

Would make a big difference.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-07-04 11:32:34  
Augment would make them non sellable, unless there's a way to subsequently remove the augments after marking them. If these are base weapons then now we're talking about a start.
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By Afania 2018-07-04 12:42:52  
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
If MNK weapon is anything to judge by, the new weapons won't really be unseating RMEA. Slightly better white damage than godhands, but 50 acc/att and 10 DT doesn't make up for 500 tp bonus and 10 store tp, especially with how often players are sitting at capped acc/att.

Maybe they will be useful in a hybrid build, but I have to think there are more effective swaps.


SE said the new weapon would be competitive to rema(so rema less player wont be excluded I guess), I dont recall they said they will beat rema.
 
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By Nyarlko 2018-07-04 15:38:20  
eslim said: »
so for the basically, su4 is the jse necks and su5 is jse idle (possible augmentable like the oseem jse) weapons ?

No. The necks don't have any Su# tags. The weapons themselves have NQ/+1/+2 versions.
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By Nyarlko 2018-07-04 15:40:17  
Afania said: »
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
If MNK weapon is anything to judge by, the new weapons won't really be unseating RMEA. Slightly better white damage than godhands, but 50 acc/att and 10 DT doesn't make up for 500 tp bonus and 10 store tp, especially with how often players are sitting at capped acc/att.

Maybe they will be useful in a hybrid build, but I have to think there are more effective swaps.


SE said the new weapon would be competitive to rema(so rema less player wont be excluded I guess), I dont recall they said they will beat rema.

Fujito did say in another FP that these would be a bit stronger than current REMA weapons. He repeated that again in this broadcast, I just didn't call it out since we have actual stats for two of them now.
 
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By Nyarlko 2018-07-04 16:06:44  
eslim said: »
for theirs with together i meant.

jse necks have a +3 version of which is tagged su4 ?
(or im midway threw my nap have not realized this is a dream)

There are no +3 versions for the necks, as of yet. Perhaps in a future update, but not in this one.

I believe that the Su# tag is only for items in armor and weapon slots. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but makes sense since accessories don't get factored in to ilvl.

Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
If they're straight synths, the "standard" NQ weapons won't exist. Everyone with the appropriate KI is guaranteed to be able to force HQ/break with shield enchantment.

They are still allowed to make NQs. Just don't have the enchantment active while synthing.. That said, I'm not sure it would be worthwhile if all three versions are from the same synth.

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I'm surprised that the club isn't seeing any talk. Seems like the ability to Esuna 4x things at a time would be useful. <,<?
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2018-07-04 16:31:23  
Nyarlko said: »
They are still allowed to make NQs. Just don't have the enchantment active while synthing.. That said, I'm not sure it would be worthwhile if all three versions are from the same synth.
Obviously they are allowed to, but only the highest HQ is worth a damn compared to RMEA. Nobody with a brain in their head is synthing NQs.
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By Cerberus.Resetti 2018-07-04 17:48:21  
Couldn’t the necks just be upgrade items like the Relic +2/3? Hope you all saved your medals!
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2018-07-04 17:59:18  
Cerberus.Resetti said: »
Couldn’t the necks just be upgrade items like the Relic +2/3? Hope you all saved your medals!

I am ready-ish.

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By Quetzalcoatl.Evildgnker 2018-07-04 18:08:18  
we see that mnk torsoshard in there too , ready for mnk bandwagon???
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2018-07-04 18:13:51  
Quetzalcoatl.Evildgnker said: »
we see that mnk torsoshard in there too , ready for mnk bandwagon???

Getting ready.

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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2018-07-04 19:25:32  
This dude on Bahamut has been buying Voidtorso: MNK for 10k hahaha. Buying them all up
 
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By Bahamut.Agerine 2018-07-04 20:05:20  
Maybe I missed it but where are y’all seein any sorta Info about new JSE /SU stuffs? I officially got lost in this thread not playin for a week -_-;
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By Shiva.Znitch 2018-07-04 20:19:07  
Bahamut.Agerine said: »
Maybe I missed it but where are y’all seein any sorta Info about new JSE /SU stuffs? I officially got lost in this thread not playin for a week -_-;
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