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By K123 2025-12-12 09:53:34  
1 or 2 hours commuting (assuming not WFH), plus cooking and eating you're intentionally ignoring. There's lots of other housework too unless you have a maid or 1950s housewife. I think your numbers are wrong.

Sorry people got offended and outraged that I don't want to waste my life on easy, repetitive content and that I had to respond to Maletaru stalking shitposting. I blocked him but he still stalks my every post to make petty desperate snide comments. Not my fault.
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By Asura.Melliny 2025-12-12 10:03:25  
My commute to my workplace is 25 minutes one way, and I telework from home half my work days. Some people have a longer commute, some have a shorter one. I'm fortunate to have a position where telework is available at all, and I know that many don't have that option, but in this post covid world we live in it's becoming more and more common for office workers to have that option in at least some part. Point is different people have different lifestyles, and some people have busier ones than others. I understand and respect that. And I don't think any of us are ignoring housework. Laundry, cooking, cleaning, dishes, vacuuming... it's all there. That's life. But I still don't think it's unreasonable to believe someone can do all the mandatory stuff and still find enough time in a day to devote 3 hours toward whatever hobby they choose.

I also think that the development team has given us largely bad content ever since odyssey by the way, and I'm not excited by limbus either. I don't play FF11 that much anymore myself, but if I wanted to spend more time in it I could. And that's the point I think most here are making. I think a lot of us can agree with you that the content we've been given is lackluster. It's the way you're presenting your opinions and the (lack of) respect you're showing for others that's getting you the flack you've gotten. Personally I think limbus is a boring repetitive grindfest and there are half a dozen steam game's I'm interested in atm that I'd rather spend time playing instead. But if someone want's to spend days on end grinding it for their whatever they're farming..... what's it matter to me. It's not my free time, so it's not my place to judge.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-12-12 10:25:26  
K123 said: »
Sorry people got offended and outraged that I don't want to waste my life on easy, repetitive content
Nobody cares if you do the content.

K123 said: »
I had to respond to Maletaru
You didn't.

K123 said: »
Not my fault.
Definitely is.

If you were just talking from your own perspective, you wouldn't have been criticized. Implying that nobody can spend that amount of time while still maintaining a life is insulting (and just plain wrong).

I don't do any content that requires me to hand-grind daily. It's not an effective use of time for me. It's perfectly ok to engage with content you like and ignore content that doesn't respect your time. It's less okay to start saying everyone who does engage with it has no life.

Even if you want to do silly hour math, not everyone works 8 hours a day. Cooking is different for everyone; some might order doordash constantly and eat leftovers. Some meal prep for the week. Some people do spend an hour or more daily cooking a fresh dinner, but I don't think it's that common: people who cook daily are much more likely to be organized and quick about it. Knife skills make a world of difference in prep time.
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By Asura.Melliny 2025-12-12 10:58:13  
There's variable time in everything. I probably cook about half the time, and even then there's a big difference between making a meatloaf versus throwing a ham steak on the griddle or making pancakes, or just throwing a baked potato in the oven. I don't think many people take the time to make a full lasagna on a regular basis, but if they did they'd probably have leftovers for several days that take a couple minutes to reheat in the microwave. Sometimes I treat myself and order a pizza or go to a restarunt, sometimes I just make a simple sandwich with lunchmeat and throw some chips and a pickle on the side. A pot of soup can last for a few days so one meal like that turn into several. And that doesn't even touch on all the prepackaged stuff that's easy to make in a few minutes.... even if it is less healthy for you. In moderation it's perfectly fine to consume fast meals once in a while.

Saying you always devote X time toward Y activity just isn't life. We don't live our daily lives by a spreadsheet, even when we make one up to plan ahead for it. There's always going to be variance for every individual, and the variance from one person to the next is even larger. There is no such thing as "one time schedule fits all". Some people have no kids, some have 1 kid, some have 5 kids. Some are single and some are married. Just because someone knows what works for their life doesn't mean it fits for someone elses. Making assumptions based off just our own experiences ignores the huge cultural diversity of our society.
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By Bismarck.Sterk 2025-12-12 11:36:37  
Only 8 hours to go until you two have been going at it for 48 hours. Almost there!
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By K123 2025-12-12 12:06:14  
Shiva.Thorny said: »
K123 said: »
Sorry people got offended and outraged that I don't want to waste my life on easy, repetitive content
Nobody cares if you do the content.
Several people are enraged that I have said the content is a waste of your life so I'm not going to do it. At least 3 posters twisted "I am not interested in doing Limbus because it is not intellectually stimulating or challenging and is painfully repetitive" into "omg u hate FFXI!!!! y r u posting here?! u hate the game!!!". These people really need to work on their critical thinking. If you don't like me stating facts because you are going to waste your life on it regardless of it being neither intellectually stimulating, challenging, or varied, then take a look at your life and your values, don't hate on me for pointing it out and or stating I am personally unwilling to waste my life on it.

Shiva.Thorny said: »
Implying that nobody can spend that amount of time while still maintaining a life is insulting (and just plain wrong).
Except I didn't, did I? I very clearly and explicitly said that you "can't maintain a relationship or raise children or have sufficient time for self development" playing as much as Maletaru does. I am not the one that defined these as the meaning of life, that is subjective, it seems you are all doing so though. Calling Maletaru a no lifer for stalking and shitposting at my every post and thread even after blocking him is a personal comment and not related to all people who waste their lives doing easy, repetitive content.

I stand by this point, without going into details of an hour by hour basis. If you have a partner that doesn't care you neglect them for all your free time, good for you, or if you neglect your kids and they're not completely messed up like you are, that's pure luck. Getting your 6th prime isn't really personal development though.

And no, I don't believe for a second he only plays 3h a day/15h a week - I call ***.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2025-12-12 12:11:08  
What is sortie? is that a new event like limbus? sounds familiar but can't remember if there is a good reason to even do sortie. sounds like a total *** waste of time.... ooooh to the empy+ upgrades. silly me.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-12 12:21:07  
K123 said: »
the content is a waste of your life
Who are you to be judge, jury and executioner of what is and isnt a waste of your life though? Dare I say that posting on ffxiah dot com is a very inefficient use of your life.

Why is Sortie or Limbus "a waste of your life", but doing Salvage, Vagary, DynaD, Omen, Camping Kings for 9 hours a dya, not a "waste of your life"? And I'm saying that as someone who gives zero *** for Sortie.
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By Saraqael 2025-12-12 12:44:46  
I'm having a blast playing this game! I am content to give this game my free time! My favorite activity in this game is making gill through crafting and farming. I also enjoy most of the expansions so far. Running around telling people, "you are wasting your life" on a site dedicated to a 20+ year old game is kinda a reflection of the state of yourself tho.

This game is still around simply because it has many fans.

I hope you are doing okay k123.
I'm sure somebody out there loves you.
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