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By SimonSes 2019-03-11 14:58:14
MNK has the single highest sustained DPS out of any job due to its white damage and recent buffs to its acc boosting its WS damage and impetus severely, as well as feeds the least TP out of all jobs.
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Yes. MNK has the single highest sustained DPS out of any job in the entire game. Only reason you ever see other jobs is because they have higher spike damage and zerg potential. WAR during 2hr and WAR outside 2hr are two different things, and 2hrs arent sustained DPS.
Im a monk fan myself, but this is far from truth. If anything MNK is actually a job with very divided proportion of power in time. You can have 9000 dps for a minute with impetus and footwork. You can have 8100 dps with Impetus up. But when impetus is down, your damage just go down by a lot, even below 6000 dps with both impetus and footwork down. Ita even worse when you need berserk to cap attack and you have down time on it too. War will easily win here with all abilities up all the time. The funny fact WAR with ukonvasara has even higher white damage if you want to bring that up as MNK advantage. Monk only advantage and a huge one if you actually plau around it is very low tp feed and survivability. You can esentially bring MNK in low man group instead of WAR and instead of WHM you can bring RDM and MNK will still be safe because there is no risk of 2 big tp move going one after another to kill the MNK. There will be plany of time between tp moves to casually cure monk if thats needed and monk can also stay most of the time in almost optimal tp set and still survive without problem.
Single highest sustained dps is *** tho. Monk is behind many other DDs in that aspect.
By SimonSes 2019-03-11 15:03:34
Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »Pangu/TB bonus Bst has got to be the highest sustained damage. because I want to rumble up this argument even more!
Croc RDM with enspells owns everyone else in melee DPS. Not sure if serious, but its not even close.
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By Asura.Zanosan 2019-03-11 17:25:01
MNK has the single highest sustained DPS out of any job due to its white damage and recent buffs to its acc boosting its WS damage and impetus severely, as well as feeds the least TP out of all jobs.
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Yes. MNK has the single highest sustained DPS out of any job in the entire game. Only reason you ever see other jobs is because they have higher spike damage and zerg potential. WAR during 2hr and WAR outside 2hr are two different things, and 2hrs arent sustained DPS.
You're actually delusional. MNK is my baby, but I know it's not #1 in DPS and your arguments for why it is are so *** bad and stupid that anyone who knows a damn will easily dismiss you, regardless of your conclusion.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2019-03-11 17:29:01
Mnk is thicccccc
Its the best dd because my dad works at nintendo and said so....
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By Bismarck.Nyaarun 2019-03-11 17:37:06
MNK has the single highest sustained DPS out of any job due to its white damage and recent buffs to its acc boosting its WS damage and impetus severely, as well as feeds the least TP out of all jobs.
No
Yes. MNK has the single highest sustained DPS out of any job in the entire game. Only reason you ever see other jobs is because they have higher spike damage and zerg potential. WAR during 2hr and WAR outside 2hr are two different things, and 2hrs arent sustained DPS.
Im a monk fan myself, but this is far from truth. If anything MNK is actually a job with very divided proportion of power in time. You can have 9000 dps for a minute with impetus and footwork. You can have 8100 dps with Impetus up. But when impetus is down, your damage just go down by a lot, even below 6000 dps with both impetus and footwork down. Ita even worse when you need berserk to cap attack and you have down time on it too. War will easily win here with all abilities up all the time. The funny fact WAR with ukonvasara has even higher white damage if you want to bring that up as MNK advantage. Monk only advantage and a huge one if you actually plau around it is very low tp feed and survivability. You can esentially bring MNK in low man group instead of WAR and instead of WHM you can bring RDM and MNK will still be safe because there is no risk of 2 big tp move going one after another to kill the MNK. There will be plany of time between tp moves to casually cure monk if thats needed and monk can also stay most of the time in almost optimal tp set and still survive without problem.
Single highest sustained dps is *** tho. Monk is behind many other DDs in that aspect.
Splitting imp and footwork gives you near full uptime in some kind of DPS buff, which is more than any other job gets. Swapping proper sets for both nets you more sustained DPS than any other job is capable of. You shouldnt be combining them the moment you get a proper footwork set for tornado kick.
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By Bismarck.Nyaarun 2019-03-11 17:40:01
MNK has the single highest sustained DPS out of any job due to its white damage and recent buffs to its acc boosting its WS damage and impetus severely, as well as feeds the least TP out of all jobs.
No
Yes. MNK has the single highest sustained DPS out of any job in the entire game. Only reason you ever see other jobs is because they have higher spike damage and zerg potential. WAR during 2hr and WAR outside 2hr are two different things, and 2hrs arent sustained DPS.
You're actually delusional. MNK is my baby, but I know it's not #1 in DPS and your arguments for why it is are so *** bad and stupid that anyone who knows a damn will easily dismiss you, regardless of your conclusion.
Its only behind other DDs if you build and play it wrong. Nothing else is remotely capable of getting close to MNKs sustained DPS because thats literally the entire point of MNK. WS damage isnt the only damage on a mob. Hell, the fact that H2H got an acc cap increase to 99% alone puts it above other jobs.
By Taint 2019-03-11 17:40:49
MNKs Max DPS TP set also has very high meva.
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By Asura.Zanosan 2019-03-11 17:43:09
MNK has the single highest sustained DPS out of any job due to its white damage and recent buffs to its acc boosting its WS damage and impetus severely, as well as feeds the least TP out of all jobs.
No
Yes. MNK has the single highest sustained DPS out of any job in the entire game. Only reason you ever see other jobs is because they have higher spike damage and zerg potential. WAR during 2hr and WAR outside 2hr are two different things, and 2hrs arent sustained DPS.
You're actually delusional. MNK is my baby, but I know it's not #1 in DPS and your arguments for why it is are so *** bad and stupid that anyone who knows a damn will easily dismiss you, regardless of your conclusion.
Its only behind other DDs if you build and play it wrong. Nothing else is remotely capable of getting close to MNKs sustained DPS because thats literally the entire point of MNK. WS damage isnt the only damage on a mob. Hell, the fact that H2H got an acc cap increase to 99% alone puts it above other jobs.
You do *** realize that WS damage is part of DPS right?
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By Afania 2019-03-11 17:53:17
MNK has the single highest sustained DPS out of any job due to its white damage and recent buffs to its acc boosting its WS damage and impetus severely, as well as feeds the least TP out of all jobs.
No
Yes. MNK has the single highest sustained DPS out of any job in the entire game. Only reason you ever see other jobs is because they have higher spike damage and zerg potential. WAR during 2hr and WAR outside 2hr are two different things, and 2hrs arent sustained DPS.
Im a monk fan myself, but this is far from truth. If anything MNK is actually a job with very divided proportion of power in time. You can have 9000 dps for a minute with impetus and footwork. You can have 8100 dps with Impetus up. But when impetus is down, your damage just go down by a lot, even below 6000 dps with both impetus and footwork down. Ita even worse when you need berserk to cap attack and you have down time on it too. War will easily win here with all abilities up all the time. The funny fact WAR with ukonvasara has even higher white damage if you want to bring that up as MNK advantage. Monk only advantage and a huge one if you actually plau around it is very low tp feed and survivability. You can esentially bring MNK in low man group instead of WAR and instead of WHM you can bring RDM and MNK will still be safe because there is no risk of 2 big tp move going one after another to kill the MNK. There will be plany of time between tp moves to casually cure monk if thats needed and monk can also stay most of the time in almost optimal tp set and still survive without problem.
Single highest sustained dps is *** tho. Monk is behind many other DDs in that aspect.
Splitting imp and footwork gives you near full uptime in some kind of DPS buff, which is more than any other job gets. Swapping proper sets for both nets you more sustained DPS than any other job is capable of. You shouldnt be combining them the moment you get a proper footwork set for tornado kick.
You are missing the point. He meant mnk is a bit behind even if they split JA use.
Mnks theorycraft dps is posted here:
https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/36705/iipunch-monk-guide/240/
Based on the info, the avg mnk dps in a 5 min cycle splitting both JA would be 7.2k using absolute optimal builds. Since tiz blu is at 8.2k full time, 7.2k is still behind.
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By Bismarck.Nyaarun 2019-03-11 18:05:11
MNK has the single highest sustained DPS out of any job due to its white damage and recent buffs to its acc boosting its WS damage and impetus severely, as well as feeds the least TP out of all jobs.
No
Yes. MNK has the single highest sustained DPS out of any job in the entire game. Only reason you ever see other jobs is because they have higher spike damage and zerg potential. WAR during 2hr and WAR outside 2hr are two different things, and 2hrs arent sustained DPS.
You're actually delusional. MNK is my baby, but I know it's not #1 in DPS and your arguments for why it is are so *** bad and stupid that anyone who knows a damn will easily dismiss you, regardless of your conclusion.
Its only behind other DDs if you build and play it wrong. Nothing else is remotely capable of getting close to MNKs sustained DPS because thats literally the entire point of MNK. WS damage isnt the only damage on a mob. Hell, the fact that H2H got an acc cap increase to 99% alone puts it above other jobs.
You do *** realize that WS damage is part of DPS right?
Hence the word ONLY.
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-03-11 18:53:31
MNK has the single highest sustained DPS out of any job due to its white damage and recent buffs to its acc boosting its WS damage and impetus severely, as well as feeds the least TP out of all jobs.
No
Yes. MNK has the single highest sustained DPS out of any job in the entire game. Only reason you ever see other jobs is because they have higher spike damage and zerg potential. WAR during 2hr and WAR outside 2hr are two different things, and 2hrs arent sustained DPS.
You're actually delusional. MNK is my baby, but I know it's not #1 in DPS and your arguments for why it is are so *** bad and stupid that anyone who knows a damn will easily dismiss you, regardless of your conclusion.
Its only behind other DDs if you build and play it wrong. Nothing else is remotely capable of getting close to MNKs sustained DPS because thats literally the entire point of MNK. WS damage isnt the only damage on a mob. Hell, the fact that H2H got an acc cap increase to 99% alone puts it above other jobs.
You do *** realize that WS damage is part of DPS right?
Inside job false flag operation, he's posing as a fanatic to make the rest look bad.
By Foxfire 2019-03-11 19:11:51
considering white dmg vs. ws dmg is a 20/80 split at a worst case scenario, you can't argue that monk is somehow making up that difference w/ AAs against other heavy DD
bring receipts or drop the fallacious arguments
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2019-03-11 19:14:59
Smarter than you apparently, so? 
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2019-03-11 19:22:12
Any Idea why Gorpa is MIA?
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-03-11 19:23:55
Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »Any Idea why Gorpa is MIA?
We kidnapped him and are holding him hostage until SE stops hording the Pulse Weapons.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mithlas 2019-03-11 19:32:29
Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »Any Idea why Gorpa is MIA?
SE emergency deleted him cause haxx
By Marootsoobootsu 2019-03-12 00:12:02
Splitting imp and footwork gives you near full uptime in some kind of DPS buff, which is more than any other job gets.
Are... are you delusional?
By SimonSes 2019-03-12 02:00:56
Its only behind other DDs if you build and play it wrong. Nothing else is remotely capable of getting close to MNKs sustained DPS because thats literally the entire point of MNK. WS damage isnt the only damage on a mob. Hell, the fact that H2H got an acc cap increase to 99% alone puts it above other jobs.
Can you even read?
I know that you can split JA if fight is longer than 3 minutes, but you are than getting:
3 minutes of 8100 DPS
1 minute of 6447 DPS (assuming you are att capped without Berserk)
1 minute of 5832 DPS (assuming you are attack capped without berserk)
Other jobs like BLU, WAR, SAM, DRG can easily keep higher avg DPS in that 5 minute cycle. If anything MNK is able to stack all abilities to beat BLU and maybe even other DDs (probably not Warcry WAR) in a 1 minute fight, so it's actually more suited for non 1hr zergs, than for sustained DPS in longer fights.
By volkom 2019-03-12 19:44:28
do you think SE is gonna upgrade the ambuscade armor again from pieces from the salvage/nyzul/limbus sets?
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By SimonSes 2019-03-12 20:01:14
do you think SE is gonna upgrade the ambuscade armor again from pieces from the salvage/nyzul/limbus sets?
***... I actually dropped a lot of Salvage gear that I got from SP gob keys spam today... Now you get me worried lol
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2019-03-17 08:55:23
Sounds progressive, but what if it prevents hooking? Games with real resources can't prevent hooking, much less SE's *** child. It might(likely will) break windower or ashita, but not irreparably so.
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2019-03-17 11:31:02
Oldest profession in the world, can't stop it.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-05-28 13:43:54
New Odin HTBF - The Rider Cometh II? That should mean new gear I'm guessing, right?
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2019-05-28 13:52:49
it'll be a master trial polearm, please look forward to it
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By Asura.Meliorah 2019-05-28 15:47:36
But we already have a master trial with odin in it, this just seems silly to put into the game.
By Taint 2019-05-28 15:50:25
New Odin HTBF - The Rider Cometh II? That should mean new gear I'm guessing, right?
Laeradrga helm
DEF:140 HP+116 MP+98 STR+32 DEX+26 VIT+43 AGI+26 INT+24 MND+24 CHR+24 Accuracy+37 Attack+62 Magic Accuracy+37 Evasion+53 Magic Evasion+52 "Magic Def. Bonus"+4 Haste+7% Enmity+8 "Set: Turns PLD into RUN"
Laeradrga breastplate
DEF:171 HP+138 MP+110 STR+39 DEX+29 VIT+39 AGI+29 INT+29 MND+29 CHR+29 Accuracy+40 Attack+65 Magic Accuracy+40 Evasion+61 Magic Evasion+68 "Magic Def. Bonus"+6 Haste+3% Enmity+9 Damage taken -11% "Set: Turns PLD into RUN"
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2019-05-28 15:50:31
I'd expect iLvl Einherjar Odin drops. Hofud, Valhalla pieces, Valkyrie Polearm.
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