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 Bismarck.Gippali
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By Bismarck.Gippali 2017-12-06 15:26:42  
Adhermar feet Path D work as well. Base/Path D is AGI +42 and STP +6. You can also use them as Snap feet if you dont have Meg. +2 or capped Taeon.
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By Asura.Sagaxi 2017-12-06 15:32:21  
I am currently using either Herc with STP+6, and (some) racc or Adhemar Gamashes NQ, and the ambus +2 for preshot.

I guess I'll stick with hands/legs HQ, and stick with what I have for feets.
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By clearlyamule 2017-12-06 15:53:17  
Fenrir.Snaps said: »
Herculean can get 8 STP although you need to do magic path to achieve this.
I seriously do not understand the logic in this. The path you actively don't want stp on has tons but the path you'd most want it on doesn't.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2017-12-06 16:18:44  
I didn't realize Adehmar Gamashes +1 had so much STP. I would wager they are BiS for midshot (even without the Trueshot bonus) besides maybe Oshosi +1 when Double Shot is up. All of this makes me wish I had more gil for things.
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By fillerbunny9 2017-12-06 19:34:22  
can a case be made for Arcadian Socks +3 for Armageddon/Gandiva AM up, or is it just a massive gil/time sink?
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2017-12-06 19:51:51  
I don't think so, unless you need accuracy. Adhemar Gamashes seem better and cheaper.
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By Cerberus.Resetti 2018-04-05 18:09:35  
How does Arc. Jerkin +3 calculate for the double shot sets mentioned before? Has anyone tested or optimized a Double Shot set yet? Does anyone know if the triple shot bonuses from Oshosi work for Arcadian Jerkin +3 triple shot proc?
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2018-04-05 18:22:44  
IDK anyone who has +3 body yet, but I'm also very curious. In particular, the "Double Shot" damage applies to the second shot when double procs. What happens when Arcadian body turns Double Shot into Triple? Does the damage bonus apply to 2nd shot, 2nd & 3rd shot, or neither?

Also, wondering about proc rate of Double>Triple. My guess is that Arcadian Jerkin +2/+3 would have similar proc rate as COR relic +2/+3 hands Triple>Quad. But IDK COR hands proc rate either.

fillerbunny9 said: »
can a case be made for Arcadian Socks +3 for Armageddon/Gandiva AM up, or is it just a massive gil/time sink?

Also, to necro reply... Oshosi+1 are better AGI and crit rate too. They are overwhelmingly best when Double Shot is up, and probably best when double shot is down (at least if assuming capped attack). The extra enmity- never hurts either.

However... Arcadian +3 may well win if seriously uncapped Ratk. IDK if I'd say they're worth the gil at this point, but your determination is gonna depend on how often you find yourself capped/uncapped attack.
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By Brynach 2018-05-08 08:47:40  
I spent some time just going out and shooting with DS up after swapping in my Arc Jerkin +3, and I have to say that the double > triple is significant enough (at least to me) that I have replaced my Oshosi Jerkin +1 for the time being. Im only basing this off of visual observation not any numbers. I could be wrong, but the triple shot proc rate with relic body +3 seems significant enough that it could replace Oshosi body.
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By Shiva.Berzerk 2018-06-20 19:16:13  
When is Recycle decided? Precast or Midcast? If midcast is it worth using Dingr ring for extra Recycle +10 to boost how often relic head bonus TP return can proc?

EDIT: my bad should have checked wiki first:

"Recycle takes place at the time of the shot, so has to be with your midshot gear to have an affect."

EDIT 2: and again I should have read more, nevermind, already capping recycle with merits and +2/3 head so not worth it.
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By Weeew 2018-12-26 08:11:17  
Can anyone confirm that Mummu wrists +2 are better than Kobo Kote for Gandiva Aftermath?

  • Mummu Wrists - 6% Crit, AGI+30 (considered the AGI+8 bonus when using with Mummu body), Racc 43.

  • Kobo Kote - 4% Crit, AGI40, Racc 25.



My math says that Mummu will give 9% Crit and 65.5 Racc while Kobo will give 8% Crit and 55 Racc.

Also any recent updates that effect the set like the dynamis neck?

Edit: Meant Dynamis neck!
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By Cerberus.Darkvlade 2018-12-26 08:40:00  
You meant Dynamis neck?
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2018-12-26 11:05:56  
I used to use Kobo in both my Gandiva and Armageddon aftermath sets. But the release of Mummu+2 was a huge boon for all the jobs that can wear it- from the +2 legs and their great Meva and -DT, the body and its great Crit rate, and the hands...and I haven't even mentioned the Ring!

Pre Nisroch, my AM3 sets for Empyreans included Mummu+2 body/hands and the Ring. I've now swapped out the body, but the Ring+Hands is just great for that white damage.

If I was still using Body and could get that set bonus between just body/ring, during Camouflage I'd swap to Kobo Kote. It would be so close it probably isn't worth the inventory, but it is more AGI.

Keep your Empyrean Hands+1 close, bow users. When those puppies get +3'ed they could be insane.
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By Taint 2019-02-01 13:32:55  
Looking for advice for DS midshot.

Before running out a buying a bunch of Oshosi i came up with this set. I don’t have it all to test but it should keep my 3 hit.

ItemSet 364834
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By Odin.Archaide 2019-02-01 14:09:59  
ItemSet 364835

This is what I use, 88% DA more than makes up for a little bit less STP.
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By Taint 2019-02-01 15:01:05  
Odin.Archaide said: »
ItemSet 364835

This is what I use, 88% DA more than makes up for a little bit less STP.


Does a single DS hit 1000tp?

I’m trying to find the sweet spot of max DS and stp.
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By Odin.Archaide 2019-02-01 18:25:12  
I’ve always got Sam roll on on and yeah with ws and 1 DS I’m over 1k tp. Also with this set you have way more chance to hit a TS, which with the tp overflow is pretty nuts
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By Ragnarok.Haxetc 2019-02-01 18:39:40  
does the oshosi actually give you triple shot chance+? i thought it only applied to COR since they have the ability.
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By Monko 2019-02-01 19:02:24  
The Relic Body +3 Occasionally makes Double Shot into Triple Shot.
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By Ragnarok.Haxetc 2019-02-01 19:06:36  
That was in both sets though.
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By Siren.Kyte 2019-02-01 19:20:55  
More DS means more DS to convert into TS.
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By Ragnarok.Haxetc 2019-02-01 19:38:51  
Ah, I thought he meant from the Triple shot+.
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2019-02-01 21:06:50  
Odin.Archaide said: »
ItemSet 364835

This is what I use, 88% DA more than makes up for a little bit less STP.
Thx for the set and the logic, ill get my WW to start trying to pump those out
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By Odin.Archaide 2019-02-02 08:42:45  
Phoenix.Iocus said: »
Odin.Archaide said: »
ItemSet 364835

This is what I use, 88% DA more than makes up for a little bit less STP.
Thx for the set and the logic, ill get my WW to start trying to pump those out

And apparently I can't count, it's 87% DS.

Base = 40
JP = 20
Oshosi = 22
Relic+3 Body = 5
= 87 DS

Also I'm not sure what the proc rate is for TS on the body but it feels like 50%. Very high for 1 piece added effect. Same goes for cor gloves.
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By Asura.Ajirha 2019-02-05 03:25:19  
would you not sacrifice 6% DS (down to 81% total) and still keep the relic head? you lose a lot of TP for a rather small increase in DS proc rate. and TP overflow is good for RNG. (unless spamming coronach)
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By Odin.Archaide 2019-02-05 08:35:45  
Asura.Ajirha said: »
would you not sacrifice 6% DS (down to 81% total) and still keep the relic head? you lose a lot of TP for a rather small increase in DS proc rate. and TP overflow is good for RNG. (unless spamming coronach)

You could for sure but then you have 6% less DS. I don't think you would see the TP gain really however I think you would when no SAM roll.
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By Taint 2019-02-05 08:41:44  
Odin.Archaide said: »
Asura.Ajirha said: »
would you not sacrifice 6% DS (down to 81% total) and still keep the relic head? you lose a lot of TP for a rather small increase in DS proc rate. and TP overflow is good for RNG. (unless spamming coronach)

You could for sure but then you have 6% less DS. I don't think you would see the TP gain really however I think you would when no SAM roll.

The diminishing returns on DS are why he's correct. With the TP scaling of Trueflight and Last Stand being so favorable, Relic head is going to beat Oshosi head. SAMs roll leads to increased TP overflow (a good thing) if both sets can WS > DS > WS.
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