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 Lakshmi.Zerowone
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-02-15 13:04:05  
Yeah house GOP appears to be attempting the token olive branch.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-02-15 13:15:08  
"So I'm looking at two-state and one-state — and I like the one that both parties like," Trump said.

Such ambivalence. Much spineless.
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By Viciouss 2017-02-15 13:16:13  
Which...one..do..both..parties...like?
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-02-15 13:18:55  
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Which...one..do..both..parties...like?
Yes.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-02-15 13:19:26  
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Maybe if Trump didn't insult the media so often, they wouldn't be so hard on him?

Just a thought. Reciprocity is real.

Because that worked so well for Dubya.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-02-15 13:19:44  
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Welp, in another humiliation, looks like Puzder doesn't have the votes to be confirmed as Labor Secretary. Expecting him to drop out.

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You act like this is a person that people generally care about.
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By Viciouss 2017-02-15 13:20:43  
Oh, its the "downplaying" strategy. Yeah, not working. Expect a Trump temper tantrum before too long.
 
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By Zerowone 2017-02-15 13:21:58  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Viciouss said: »
Which...one..do..both..parties...like?
Yes.

Owner of a Lonely Heart.
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By Ramyrez 2017-02-15 13:22:20  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Maybe if Trump didn't insult the media so often, they wouldn't be so hard on him?

Just a thought. Reciprocity is real.

Because that worked so well for Dubya.

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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
We've hit a point where being elected is an impeachable offense.

We hit that 15.5 years ago, retroactive to 17 years ago.
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By Ramyrez 2017-02-15 13:23:37  
Zerowone said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Viciouss said: »
Which...one..do..both..parties...like?
Yes.

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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-02-15 13:29:40  
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Oh, its the "downplaying" strategy. Yeah, not working. Expect a Trump temper tantrum before too long.

You're right, downplaying isn't necessary. The people who support Trump don't even care, so instead it's a bunch of anti-Trumpers patting themselves on the back for extremely minor victories and making a big deal out of nothing.
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By Viciouss 2017-02-15 13:32:45  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
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Oh, its the "downplaying" strategy. Yeah, not working. Expect a Trump temper tantrum before too long.

You're right, downplaying isn't necessary. The people who support Trump don't even care, so instead it's a bunch of anti-Trumpers patting themselves on the back for extremely minor victories and making a big deal out of nothing.

And yet you continue to try to unsuccessfully downplay it.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-02-15 13:44:14  
no, he's crestfallen and that's his coping mechanism.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-02-15 13:48:19  
it's on now andy!

oh ***he pissed off oprah
 
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-02-15 14:03:10  
It looks like the 2020 election season is officially underway.

Poll: Trump trails generic Democrat, but not Warren, in 2020
CNN

And Trump has already started fundraising for his "self funded" 2020 run.

/sigh
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-02-15 14:04:04  
Candlejack said: »
Viciouss said: »
Welp, in another humiliation, looks like Puzder doesn't have the votes to be confirmed as Labor Secretary. Expecting him to drop out.
Good. No thug that Trump puts forward for any post from today onward should get a confirmation. They should be sent back time and again with the word "rejected" stamped tattooed in red on their foreheads.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-02-15 14:06:56  
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It looks like the 2020 election season is officially underway.

Poll: Trump trails generic Democrat, but not Warren, in 2020
CNN

And Trump has already started fundraising for his "self funded" 2020 run.

/sigh

"Despite the public’s increasing misgivings about Trump’s behavior and tactics in the White House, he still beats Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) in a hypothetical matchup, 42 percent to 36 "

/points and laughs at warren

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By Ramyrez 2017-02-15 14:07:11  
Warren would be a very, very bad choice for 2020. She'd basically be Hillary 2.0.

Even I, who agrees with so many of her policies, think her presentation and past faux pas are problematic though ultimately forgivable. But that past is a major weakness in the general election. You can't go against/court the Trump/Trump analog voter base with someone like Liz Warren.

...which is exactly why she'll probably be the DNC's choice in 2020, because they're so *** caught up in identity politics that they've lost sight of actually achieving anything for everyone involved.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-02-15 14:12:47  
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Warren would be a very, very bad choice for 2020.

I hope she gets the nomination....

and who else do they even have? Martin "My own family didn't vote for me" O'Malley


Hillary running again would actually be hillary 2.0 ....
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-02-15 14:19:29  
The last poll I saw showed Warren not even breaking even in her own state. Put her in, coach. She's ready to play.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2017-02-15 14:22:32  
I'd like to see Ron Wyden run, but he has annoyed many within the Democratic party
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-02-15 14:22:46  
Garuda.Chanti said: »
It looks like the 2020 election season is officially underway.

Poll: Trump trails generic Democrat, but not Warren, in 2020
CNN

And Trump has already started fundraising for his "self funded" 2020 run.

/sigh

The 2020 season began Nov 9th. Democrats are doing everything to generate controversy and scandal with the goal of demonizing Trump so whomever they chose will have a better chance. The Republicans did the exact same thing after Obama got elected and it backfired on them big time. The Democrats will lose more Congress seats in 2018 and lose again in 2020 before they learn the lesson. Stop using identity politics, they don't work anymore and just make everyone using them look like "big red" SJW feminatzi. Politicians really need to learn how to take the high road without looking detached or snobbish.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-02-15 14:24:24  
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Oh, its the "downplaying" strategy. Yeah, not working. Expect a Trump temper tantrum before too long.

You're right, downplaying isn't necessary. The people who support Trump don't even care, so instead it's a bunch of anti-Trumpers patting themselves on the back for extremely minor victories and making a big deal out of nothing.

And yet you continue to try to unsuccessfully downplay it.

So, the guy who supported Clinton is supposedly totally nonchalant and laughing about the loss, and that's not downplaying. What's really downplaying is me diminishing the impact of some guy the vast majority of America had never heard of not getting a cabinet position that almost nobody cares about.

Makes sense.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2017-02-15 14:26:20  
If republicans didn't constantly threaten to take away civil rights like abortion and homosexual rights there would be no need to talk about these things. Imagine how beautiful a constructive political debate centered entirely around economics!
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By Viciouss 2017-02-15 14:30:13  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
So, the guy who supported Clinton is supposedly totally nonchalant and laughing about the loss, and that's not downplaying. What's really downplaying is me diminishing the impact of some guy the vast majority of America had never heard of not getting a cabinet position that almost nobody cares about.

Makes sense.

Glad you understand, now maybe if you would stop focusing on 2016 and 2020 you might also understand that the current WH is mirred in scandal that they, not the media or dems, created all on their own. Fantasizing about future elections while Trump is in the gutter just adds to the amusement.
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By Ramyrez 2017-02-15 14:31:34  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
If republicans didn't constantly threaten to take away civil rights like abortion and homosexual rights there would be no need to talk about these things. Imagine how beautiful a constructive political debate centered entirely around economics!

KN and I discussing labor policy is as close as you're going to get to that.

Not so pretty after all, ne?
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-02-15 14:32:15  
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Makes sense.

oh c'mon rav. the jig is up, you know how deep our feelings run for good old whatshisname. the grief is real
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By Odin.Slore 2017-02-15 14:36:40  
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Welp, in another humiliation, looks like Puzder doesn't have the votes to be confirmed as Labor Secretary. Expecting him to drop out.
Good. No thug that Trump puts forward for any post from today onward should get a confirmation. They should be sent back time and again with the word "rejected" stamped in red on their foreheads.

Well thanks to the democrats it only takes a simple majority now, courtesy of that rule change back in 2008 or 2012 they pulled.

Be an obstructionist that will teach them.
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