Jack Of All Trades: A Guide To Red Mage

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By Ramuh.Austar 2020-09-21 09:58:50  
You can easily find DW piece combinations with my code. Just add extra pieces like augmented items that aren't included and change the target value at the end. It will find +- 1 to what you are looking for. So if you need 31 to cap, it'll print out 30, 31, and 32 DW combinations of gear. Just be mindful of the haste values for some sets.

You can run it online https://repl.it/languages/python3
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import itertools

# Create Dictionary of Equipment
items = {'head': [{'Head_None': 0}],
         'body': [{'Body_None': 0}],
         'hands': [{'Hands_None': 0}],
         'legs': [{'Carmine Cuisses +1': 6}, {'Legs_None': 0}],
         'feet': [{'Taeon Boots': 4}, {'Taeon Boots Augmented': 9}, {'Feet_None': 0}],
         'waist': [{'Shetal Stone': 6}, {'Reiki Yotai': 7}, {'Gerdr Belt +1': 4}, {'Waist_None': 0}],
         'ear': [{'Suppanomimi': 5}, {'Dudgeon+Heartseeker': 7}, {'Eabani Earring': 4}, {'Eabani+Suppanomimi': 9}, {'Ear_None': 0}],
         'back': [{'JSE Cape': 10}, {'Back_None': 0}]}


def product_dict(**kwargs):
    keys = kwargs.keys()
    vals = kwargs.values()
    for instance in itertools.product(*vals):
        yield dict(zip(keys, instance))


def find_optimal_armor(target_armor):
    for combination in product_dict(**items):
        total_armor = 0
        for body_part in combination.values():
            total_armor += sum(body_part.values())
        if total_armor == target_armor or total_armor == target_armor - 1 or total_armor == target_armor + 1:
            print(combination, '\n')


# Change Number Only
find_optimal_armor(11)
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By LightningHelix 2020-09-21 12:11:18  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
taeon can get 5 DW augment
And this is what I was missing. I knew I wanted to cap! I just was not sure where it was coming from there. Thanks.

(also I don't have a Reiki Yotai, this was mostly an aspirational question)
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By Ramuh.Austar 2020-09-21 15:48:29  
LightningHelix said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
taeon can get 5 DW augment
And this is what I was missing. I knew I wanted to cap! I just was not sure where it was coming from there. Thanks.

(also I don't have a Reiki Yotai, this was mostly an aspirational question)
well you have quite a few other setups you can use in the meantime, including two options that frees up waist for orpheus sash if you can stomach using that haste ammo


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{'head': {'Head_None': 0}, 'body': {'Body_None': 0}, 'hands': {'Hands_None': 0}, 'legs': {'Carmine Cuisses +1': 6}, 'feet': {'Taeon Boots': 4}, 'waist': {'Shetal Stone': 6}, 'ear': {'Suppanomimi': 5}, 'back': {'JSE Cape': 10}} 

{'head': {'Head_None': 0}, 'body': {'Body_None': 0}, 'hands': {'Hands_None': 0}, 'legs': {'Carmine Cuisses +1': 6}, 'feet': {'Taeon Boots': 4}, 'waist': {'Shetal Stone': 6}, 'ear': {'Eabani Earring': 4}, 'back': {'JSE Cape': 10}} 

{'head': {'Head_None': 0}, 'body': {'Body_None': 0}, 'hands': {'Hands_None': 0}, 'legs': {'Carmine Cuisses +1': 6}, 'feet': {'Taeon Boots': 4}, 'waist': {'Gerdr Belt +1': 4}, 'ear': {'Dudgeon+Heartseeker': 7}, 'back': {'JSE Cape': 10}} 

{'head': {'Head_None': 0}, 'body': {'Body_None': 0}, 'hands': {'Hands_None': 0}, 'legs': {'Carmine Cuisses +1': 6}, 'feet': {'Taeon Boots Augmented': 9}, 'waist': {'Shetal Stone': 6}, 'ear': {'Eabani+Suppanomimi': 9}, 'back': {'Back_None': 0}} 

{'head': {'Head_None': 0}, 'body': {'Body_None': 0}, 'hands': {'Hands_None': 0}, 'legs': {'Carmine Cuisses +1': 6}, 'feet': {'Taeon Boots Augmented': 9}, 'waist': {'Shetal Stone': 6}, 'ear': {'Ear_None': 0}, 'back': {'JSE Cape': 10}} 

{'head': {'Head_None': 0}, 'body': {'Body_None': 0}, 'hands': {'Hands_None': 0}, 'legs': {'Carmine Cuisses +1': 6}, 'feet': {'Taeon Boots Augmented': 9}, 'waist': {'Waist_None': 0}, 'ear': {'Suppanomimi': 5}, 'back': {'JSE Cape': 10}} 

{'head': {'Head_None': 0}, 'body': {'Body_None': 0}, 'hands': {'Hands_None': 0}, 'legs': {'Carmine Cuisses +1': 6}, 'feet': {'Taeon Boots Augmented': 9}, 'waist': {'Waist_None': 0}, 'ear': {'Dudgeon+Heartseeker': 7}, 'back': {'JSE Cape': 10}} 

{'head': {'Head_None': 0}, 'body': {'Body_None': 0}, 'hands': {'Hands_None': 0}, 'legs': {'Carmine Cuisses +1': 6}, 'feet': {'Feet_None': 0}, 'waist': {'Shetal Stone': 6}, 'ear': {'Eabani+Suppanomimi': 9}, 'back': {'JSE Cape': 10}} 

{'head': {'Head_None': 0}, 'body': {'Body_None': 0}, 'hands': {'Hands_None': 0}, 'legs': {'Legs_None': 0}, 'feet': {'Taeon Boots Augmented': 9}, 'waist': {'Shetal Stone': 6}, 'ear': {'Suppanomimi': 5}, 'back': {'JSE Cape': 10}} 

{'head': {'Head_None': 0}, 'body': {'Body_None': 0}, 'hands': {'Hands_None': 0}, 'legs': {'Legs_None': 0}, 'feet': {'Taeon Boots Augmented': 9}, 'waist': {'Shetal Stone': 6}, 'ear': {'Dudgeon+Heartseeker': 7}, 'back': {'JSE Cape': 10}} 

{'head': {'Head_None': 0}, 'body': {'Body_None': 0}, 'hands': {'Hands_None': 0}, 'legs': {'Legs_None': 0}, 'feet': {'Taeon Boots Augmented': 9}, 'waist': {'Gerdr Belt +1': 4}, 'ear': {'Dudgeon+Heartseeker': 7}, 'back': {'JSE Cape': 10}} 

{'head': {'Head_None': 0}, 'body': {'Body_None': 0}, 'hands': {'Hands_None': 0}, 'legs': {'Legs_None': 0}, 'feet': {'Taeon Boots Augmented': 9}, 'waist': {'Gerdr Belt +1': 4}, 'ear': {'Eabani+Suppanomimi': 9}, 'back': {'JSE Cape': 10}} 
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By Bahamut.Turambar 2020-09-24 12:47:25  
I haven't attempted to run numbers on it, but with the Unity augments as an option it looks like:

Blistering Sallet +1
Suppanomimi
Malignance body, hands
DW Sucello's
Carmine +1 legs
Taeon feet

would put you at 26% Haste (in case that's still a thing, I just recently came back after 7 years off), 30 DW and an extra 3% double attack, 10% crit rate, +3 accuracy, +30STR, +1DEX, vs. Malignance head, and still leave waist open. You lose some Store TP, but the 3% DA offsets it somewhat, and the bonus to enspell damage from Orpheus's seems like it should offset it by quite a lot over time.

EDIT: Ayanmo hands
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By LightningHelix 2020-09-25 06:10:38  
...lol, imagine having Orpheus Sash (it's cheaper to literally pay mercenaries to get Reiki Yotai and I still wouldn't do that.) Maybe someday!

(I didn't know Shetal Stone existed, that's actually basically perfect to fill the hole for me, thank you! Wouldn't mind a Gerdr Belt, but the +1 is like 130m and at that point why not just buy a Sash, and the NQ doesn't seem to ever exist on the AH.)
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By Argisto 2020-10-01 15:13:54  
Almost done with the gear sets section of the new guide and I was wondering about something. Looking through different CDC sets and comparing with my own, is there any reason in particular I don't see hetairoi ring used more often instead of Ilabrat Ring? Does the Triple attack damgage not apply to WS? Is Ilabrat just that far ahead?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2020-10-01 15:17:37  
Argisto said: »
Does the Triple attack damgage not apply to WS
no
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By Argisto 2020-10-01 15:59:06  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Argisto said: »
Does the Triple attack damgage not apply to WS
no
Thanks for the clarification.
One last question to everyone: has anyone else ever seen Inundation get resisted aside from magic shields? Would it be safe to say it cannot be resisted like dia/bio? Or is it something that's left to be tested still? Couldn't find any concrete info.
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By Asura.Geriond 2020-10-01 15:59:54  
You sure about that? I'm pretty sure the WAR Ambu cape's Double Attack damage works on double attacks in WSs.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2020-10-01 16:07:01  
Asura.Geriond said: »
You sure about that? I'm pretty sure the WAR Ambu cape's Double Attack damage works on double attacks in WSs.
unless it's unique, i'm pretty sure.
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By Asura.Elizabet 2020-10-01 16:28:11  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Argisto said: »
Does the Triple attack damgage not apply to WS
no

That means yes, it applies. Is that what you meant?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2020-10-01 16:31:02  
Asura.Elizabet said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Argisto said: »
Does the Triple attack damgage not apply to WS
no

That means yes, it applies. Is that what you meant?
no. as in, it doesn't apply on WS. neither does DA damage and I don't know of any testing showing otherwise.
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By Asura.Geriond 2020-10-01 16:47:57  
Do you know of testing that shows it doesn't? I tried to find the test I remembered of Cichol's mantle, but couldn't find it, which puts them on equal footing unless you know of one.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2020-10-01 16:51:04  
Asura.Geriond said: »
Do you know of testing that shows it doesn't? I tried to find the test I remembered of Cichol's mantle, but couldn't find it, which puts them on equal footing unless you know of one.
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/War._Cuisses_%2B2

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/19774/ukkos-fury-setup/81/#2036023

unless hetairoi and mantle are unique, they don't either. and 20% from mantle would be really obvious if it did.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2020-10-01 16:51:32  
for cichol's specifically no, I can't think of any testing.

There should be testing for:
chiner's belt
hetairoi ring
agoge cuisses +3
Toutatis's cape

I believe all of those at one time or another have been tested and shown to have no effect on ws.
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By eeternal 2020-10-02 13:29:20  
Probably not worth the investment especially if you have Amalric +1/C.Crown, but how does Cohort Cloak +1 rank for Seraph Blade?

Does Elemental magic skill affect magic ws?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2020-10-02 13:35:19  
eeternal said: »
Does Elemental magic skill affect magic ws?
no, magic accuracy skill from your main hand does
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By eeternal 2020-10-02 13:39:33  
Thank you
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2020-10-02 14:08:54  
Actually, cohort cloak +1 seems like it might be better overall than Cath Palug crown/amalric doublet +1

Strength Mind Magic Accuracy Magic Attack
Cohort Cloak +1 55 76 110-120 100
Amalric Path A, Crown 40 64 103 98 (108)
Amalric Path D, Crown 40 64 83 103 (113)


Cohort Wins in base stats, Wins in macc, and wins in matk vs path A amalric doublet, loses by 3 matk to Path D

Edit: Didn't factor set bonus for Amalric, but would assume +10 more matk from legs/feet also being in the set.
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By eeternal 2020-10-02 14:38:42  
True. +15 STR +12 MND + 20 Base Stat is appealing for Seraph..

I would definitely recommend getting it if people don't have Crown/Amalric.. Easy to get.. Competitive if not the same output, less time and money investment
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2020-10-02 14:43:22  
I honestly don't know if 8 matk means more than ~10 more base damage with the levels of base matk RDM is running around with though. If someone has a spreadsheet we'd know for sure.

Edit: I only have a path A doublet
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By eeternal 2020-10-02 14:52:06  
Austar, would you be able to help answering this? how much do you think +20 base stat would equate to mab?
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2020-10-02 15:23:39  
It’s not +20 base stat. It’s +27 str and mind, which is approximately 10 or 11 wsc
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By eeternal 2020-10-02 15:30:01  
Yes my bad sorry
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By Ramuh.Austar 2020-10-02 15:41:34  
eeternal said: »
Austar, would you be able to help answering this? how much do you think +20 base stat would equate to mab?
the simple answer is it probably doesn't matter, but crown+doublet you'll likely carry for nukes anyways.

complicated answer is it depends on the rest of your gear totals.
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By eeternal 2020-10-02 15:45:51  
Very clear thanks!
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By Asura.Sechs 2020-10-05 02:17:54  
Anybody got a link to a working RDM spreadsheet by any chance?
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By Asura.Byrne 2020-10-05 04:02:21  
I would say Cohort is a very strong option for inventory conservation. It's also worth mentioning for things like Seraph Blade and nuking, Cohort has a clear m.acc edge.
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By eeternal 2020-10-05 14:08:52  
Anyone mind pointing out bis set to ride Frazzle II (Focusing on Max Macc).. Do you use Max/Amm or Contem+1/Mephitis
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2020-10-05 14:10:37  
The skill cap is much lower on Frazzle 2 afaik, so you just pile on macc to make sure it lands. That means that it's probably your go to 1hd weapon with Ammurapi Shield.

ItemSet 375865

Can substitute Crocea out for anything else comparable.
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