February 10th, 2016 Version Update

Yes It Is Worth It

Some of the updates to relic are pretty terrible. Actually a lot of them are underwhelming.

Apoc got 15 acc added to aftermath. Seems SE's favorite lube is DRK Tears(TM).

Excal is regen+30 refresh+3.

Is this update worth coming back to the game for?

If anyone knows, do trusts who hold relic (bst, which name escapes me, and galka whm), do they supposedly get access to aftermaths when you use them in pt? If so, galka whm using relic ws kinda nice for the +5 refresh, but I doubt they'd change trusts too...

whoa my armageddon and DP will dispense ammo, thats pretty damn amazing if it gives a full stack.
hnnng at that +50dex and arrows dispensed by Gandiva.
This exceeded my expectations.

You do realize this aftermath is for the new versions of the weapons only? When's the last time you saw a trust with an afterglow?

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAIT A MINUTE

Hvergelmir
DMG:275 Delay:390 MP+230 Magic Damage+279 Staff skill +269 Parrying skill +269 Magic Accuracy skill +269 "Fast Cast"+50% "Myrkr" Aftermath: Occasionally attacks for triple damage Afterglow

dafuq?

Most expensive and useless precast macro ever?

good thing it reduces your tp to 0 so you can't even myrkr. thanks obama

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAIT A MINUTE

Hvergelmir
DMG:275 Delay:390 MP+230 Magic Damage+279 Staff skill +269 Parrying skill +269 Magic Accuracy skill +269 "Fast Cast"+50% "Myrkr" Aftermath: Occasionally attacks for triple damage Afterglow

similar trend with the emp club, look like the only emps that got something extra added on lol

Gambanteinn
DMG:212 Delay:300 HP+135 MP+135 Magic Damage+217 Club skill +269 Parrying skill +269 Magic Accuracy skill +255 "Cursna"+100 "Dagan" Aftermath: Occasionally attacks for triple damage Afterglow

similar trend with the emp club, look like the only emps that got something extra added on lol

Gambanteinn
DMG:212 Delay:300 HP+135 MP+135 Magic Damage+217 Club skill +269 Parrying skill +269 Magic Accuracy skill +255 "Cursna"+100 "Dagan" Aftermath: Occasionally attacks for triple damage Afterglow

similar trend with the emp club, look like the only emps that got something extra added on lol

Gambanteinn
DMG:212 Delay:300 HP+135 MP+135 Magic Damage+217 Club skill +269 Parrying skill +269 Magic Accuracy skill +255 "Cursna"+100 "Dagan" Aftermath: Occasionally attacks for triple damage Afterglow

I'm laughing so hard right now. Super duper FC piece, all but useless because using it removes the TP you were saving for its own WS!

GG SE

I thought Cursna pieces were multiplicative, not additive. If multiplicative, Cursna +100 would double your doom removal rate, which is a far cry from 100% on most relevant dooms.

I thought Cursna pieces were multiplicative, not additive. If multiplicative, Cursna +100 would double your doom removal rate, which is a far cry from 100% on most relevant dooms.

Tests conducted in Ballista (BLU vs WHM) using Mortal Ray.




Test 1
424 + 15 healing magic skill, no potency gear

Mortal Ray casts: 18
Successful Cursna casts: 14/81 (+/- 17%)



Test 2
424 + 16 healing magic skill, 55% potency (Haoma's ring x2 30%, Theophany pantaloons 15%, Malison medallion 10%)

Mortal Ray casts: 26
Successful Cursna casts: 26/80 (+/- 32%)



Test 3
424 + 16 healing magic skill, 55% potency (Haoma's ring x2 30%, Theophany pantaloons 15%, Malison medallion 10%) + Unknown % from Gendewitha galoshes and Mending cape

Mortal Ray casts: 27
Successful Cursna casts: 27/65 (+/- 41%)






Need to do a ton more tests and expand sample sizes on these ones, but things I'm looking at as possibilities atm:

1) Mending Cape or Gendewitha Galoshes having a larger Cursna potency bonus than other pieces. Would gravitate toward the cape having extra.
2) Healing magic skill works in tiers, and 440 just happened to break a tier in these tests.
3) Doom is based on stats somehow; INT, MND, or CHR compared between target and caster that helps to determine the base Doom removal chance. Could work for all Dooms, could work for but the BLU one. Hard to say.

Need a lot more data, but those are some possibilities that I'm tossing around in my head at the moment. All this provides so far is statistical evidence that Cursna potency gear actually does something.

Tests conducted in Ballista (BLU vs WHM) using Mortal Ray.




Test 1
424 + 15 healing magic skill, no potency gear

Mortal Ray casts: 30
Successful Cursna casts: 26/116 (+/- 22%)



Test 2
424 + 16 healing magic skill, 55% potency (Haoma's ring x2 30%, Theophany pantaloons 15%, Malison medallion 10%)

Mortal Ray casts: 26
Successful Cursna casts: 26/80 (+/- 33%)



Test 3
424 + 16 healing magic skill, 55% potency (Haoma's ring x2 30%, Theophany pantaloons 15%, Malison medallion 10%) + Unknown % from Gendewitha galoshes and Mending cape

Mortal Ray casts: 27
Successful Cursna casts: 27/65 (+/- 42%)



Test 4
424 + 68 healing magic skill, no potency gear

Mortal Ray casts: 32
Successful Cursna casts: 28/115 (+/- 24%)



Seems skill makes very, very little difference in terms of overall success rate. This does, however, further refine the base doom removal rate and makes the third test look a little less derpy; cape+feet together being 30% most likely, meaning 15% each which falls into expected values. Overall an 85% or so boost from all that gear, which also falls in line. Pretty obvious that gear doesn't cap at 45% and that it is likely just multiplicative with base cursna doom removal rate, which is determined by healing magic skill and probably some base floor. I haven't got enough gear to determine whether or not cursna removal rate itself caps at 45% or not, nor the patience to get a sample size high enough to say for certain. However, this data is sufficient to draw basic conclusions on how cursna, and cursna enhancing gear, works. Only other test I plan to do in the immediate future is /WHM to try to get more of a feel for how skill affects removal rate; other than that, just expanding sample sizes when I can be bothered.