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By Taint 2021-04-03 09:48:34  
Asura.Gotenn said: »
The other thing about DPS on PLD is we have no way to get to haste cap. So unless we have a TON of mobs feeding us tp, or a DNC in the group giving us Haste Samba, from my perspective, it takes us forever to get tp.


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PLD is a TP slug, its painful at times.
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By DaneBlood 2021-04-08 08:24:58  
MY SIRD set is not working as i though it would and i dont get why.

My first sird set had 109% SIRD (no merrits) and i still got interrupted when pulling multiple mobs on me in DynaD and Oddesey

I redid the sets and got it down to 98 but with more HP and moved me to 5/5 SIRD merrits

but i still get interupted casting blu spells.
just last night i had 3-4 interuptions in a row when standing still just casting AoE hate spells


I have verfiied the gear equips (its in midtcast).
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By Pandemonium.Zeto 2021-04-08 08:26:34  
Whats your set?
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By Veydal1 2021-04-08 11:35:52  
It's possible your sets aren't being used properly. A couple things worth checking -

1. Make sure you're actually in "SIRD" mode if using Selendrile's LUA. This should be WINDOWS KEY + F11 I believe by default.

2. Double check your sets. You'll need SIRD sets for Cures, Enhancing Magic, Reprisal, Enmity, etc.

EDIT: Do you recall what was the spell that was interrupted? I'd start with that. Check the spell against the sets in your LUA to make sure there's an accompanying SIRD set for that spell.
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By SimonSes 2021-04-08 11:58:18  
DaneBlood said: »
I have verfiied the gear equips (its in midtcast).

Possibly it switches to TP/Idle before you finish casting then? or its a lag and you casting in precast. I suggest disable gearswap and lock yourself in SIRD set and check if you get interrupted then. If you dont, you will know its not a SIRD set problem, but some problem with swapping gear. If you get interrupted, then its a problem with set itself.
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By Asura.Botosi 2021-04-08 12:00:19  
Maybe you got that fastfollow bug going on where your idle set equips too quickly?
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By Leviathan.Eloc 2021-04-08 13:43:14  
DaneBlood said: »
MY SIRD set is not working as i though it would and i dont get why.

My first sird set had 109% SIRD (no merrits) and i still got interrupted when pulling multiple mobs on me in DynaD and Oddesey

I redid the sets and got it down to 98 but with more HP and moved me to 5/5 SIRD merrits

but i still get interupted casting blu spells.
just last night i had 3-4 interuptions in a row when standing still just casting AoE hate spells


I have verfiied the gear equips (its in midtcast).

This happened to me last night on my blue magic spells on PLD. I removed the priority part of my lua for those spells, and it worked after that. No idea why it broke randomly, because it was working before with no issue.
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By Asura.Buffyslyph 2021-04-13 22:56:16  
This is currently the PLD set I'm working towards:

ItemSet 378978

as I feel it is reasonably achievable for my mule over the next 2-3 months. Ochain as well for physical fights, swapping out from Aegis as needed.

This set would be my idle set and my engaged set.

Sakpata is currently unavailable to this char.

Am I on the right path or have a truly gone off the rails somewhere? If so, what should I do differently?

I'm very newb to PLD.
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By Guyford 2021-04-28 17:57:11  
So... what are everyone's thoughts on what pld could be getting. Enmity on reprisal and bonus dmg/maybe acc on enlights? Even more def on protects? aoe shells? AoE flash under majesty? Phalanx potency job trait? Additional effect death on holy 2 vs undead under divine emblem?
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By Bismarck.Nyaarun 2021-04-28 18:24:27  
If i had to guess, either duration increase on spells like crusade for QoL, enmity increase on some buff spells to help maintain enmity, or some spell effect adjustments that would be more difficult and specific to parse out.

FFXI has a lot of spells/buffs that are "need permanent uptime, last 5 min at most" that could do with some boosting. Its just a chore keeping all the buffs up all at once.
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By Felgarr 2021-04-28 19:54:16  
If Reprisal gets a 45-second recast like Foil (and keeps or gets an increase in Enmity)....I will be so incredibly happy.

I can't think of anything else SE would change, unless it's Majesty+Phalanx combo or Majesty+Enlight ...or just simply giving PLD another Divine Magic spell. :/
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By Felgarr 2021-04-28 19:55:27  
Taint said: »
Asura.Gotenn said: »
The other thing about DPS on PLD is we have no way to get to haste cap. So unless we have a TON of mobs feeding us tp, or a DNC in the group giving us Haste Samba, from my perspective, it takes us forever to get tp.


^ This

PLD is a TP slug, its painful at times.

When SE chose not to bless WSD with AF1/2 that has WSD+10, I completely withdrew from DPSing on PLD. I actually prefer it, I need the inventory space.
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By Ragnarok.Lowen 2021-04-28 20:48:27  
Enlight no longer decays.

Book it.
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By Felgarr 2021-04-28 21:05:15  
Ragnarok.Lowen said: »
Enlight no longer decays.

Book it.

It didn't decay when it was originally SE released it, then a while later they nerfed it with decay.
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By Ruaumoko 2021-04-28 21:32:07  
Enlight no longer decaying is a good shout.
Reprisal having its reuse timer cut to 45 seconds and getting the same Enmity values as Foil would be a game changer.

...Flash becoming AoE under Majesty would be earth shatteringly epic.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2021-04-28 22:12:18  
Add 12% JA haste to enlight. Do it SE. /dreams. lol.
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By Ozaii 2021-04-28 23:28:14  
Not really a pld questuon but a reprisal one. When reprisal procs on adapa shield. Does it give the enmity as well as if it was casted or just the reprisal bonus.
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By Asura.Byrne 2021-04-29 04:01:38  
Ragnarok.Martel said: »
Add 12% JA haste to enlight. Do it SE. /dreams. lol.

Or they could just give PLD something that gives a bonus similar to what DRG gets when Wyvern is summoned. It doesn't have to be enlight specifically, I just think that there should be at least one or two alternatives to DNC to cap SW haste. Even better still if some job could do AoE JA haste, that would free up all sorts of specialized subjob options as well.
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By FaeQueenCory 2021-04-29 07:28:11  
Ragnarok.Martel said: »
Add 12% JA haste to enlight. Do it SE. /dreams. lol.
12%? Gurl, you're dreaming small. Demand more:15~20% JA haste.
(though they'd probably tie it to something like sentinel if they did the 20%.)

EDIT: oh I bet I know what it's gonna be. I bet they're gonna change the order of power on Rampart so that Shining Ruby (Pro+shell) won't overwrite it...
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By SimonSes 2021-04-29 08:16:04  
FaeQueenCory said: »
12%? Gurl, you're dreaming small. Demand more:15~20% JA haste.

Martel wants 12%, because cap is 80% and PLD can only have 68.75% atm (78.75% with Haste Samba from main DNC).
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