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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2017-02-15 13:43:43  
A pretty solid rule of thumb for gearing is Haste Cap >= Acc to cap on current target > STP for xhit > Multi Attack > else. This is pretty much just an oversimplified example, but should help a lot early on.

Haste cap on gear is 26% and a decent high accuracy set has between 1130 and 1200 accuracy. I believe Kin in Omen requires around 1150 now, and Fu around 1250.

As for what you should try for first, I think AF+2 would be pretty good to farm. Most pieces become BIS for certain situations and the AF+2 is fairly strong. Besides that I'd spam Ambuscade and get Flamma +1 head/hands/feet
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By Odin.Speedyjim 2017-02-15 14:48:08  
Asura.Leonlionheart said: »
Besides that I'd spam Ambuscade and get Flamma +1 head/hands/feet
Too bad you can't get Flamma +1 set until Squenix releases coupons for them. The current ones are only for the first 5 sets.

Sauce: I tried getting Flamma +1 myself, didn't work.
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2017-02-15 14:51:18  
Going by previous pattern, it seems very likely that next month's Ambuscade main armor reward will be kupons for the preceding 5 sets (Flamma, Ta'lia, Mummu, Ayanmo, Mallquis), and Gallantry for the previous month's set (Mallquis). So, probably not too long to wait.

In the meantime, with the current Kupons giving items from the first 5 Ambuscade sets, Hizamaru+1 legs are worth picking up! Body is at least a unique idle regen piece too, if you've got nothing better to use points on.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Excalin 2017-02-19 04:17:35  
Fenrir.Ramzus said: »
Also, I opted from Dagon Breastplate sets, since according to FFXIAH 0 people have it

Not sure how well FFXIAH has been about updating lately. It is still showing me in what I wore a few weeks ago.
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By Leviathan.Kingkitt 2017-02-27 02:06:45  
I've seen updated gearsets for Doji, but does anyone mind sharing gearsets for Masa with current/updated gear? Trying to get my builds on point before I finish both Masa and Doji int he next couple weeks. Also trying to figure out how i'll fit in HQ Ryou hands/legs once i craft them out here soon.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2017-02-27 09:05:15  
Check back a couple pages.
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By Leviathan.Kingkitt 2017-02-27 09:48:46  
Odin.Llewelyn said: »
Check back a couple pages.
I completely forgot that was there, I even commented on it..
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2017-02-28 00:36:12  
Woo. Ready for Relic +3!

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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-02-28 01:38:02  
nice!
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By Leviathan.Kingkitt 2017-02-28 18:38:58  
Odin.Llewelyn said: »
Woo. Ready for Relic +3!


Congrats!
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By Phoenix.Cyrinn 2017-03-01 01:12:30  
Just finished up gear for SAM and I had a few questions, mainly about skillchain damage.

If making 3 and 4 step skillchains, is it worth using gear that has skillchain damage over weapon skill damage, like Uac Jerkin over a WS Damage Valorous Mail? Or Ryuo Hakama over Hizamaru Haramaki +1?

Also, is macroing Kasuga Sune-Ate+1 onto a WS using Sengikori beneficial over the STR, Attack, and WS Damage loss of Valorous Greaves? Or is it better to use them for MB damage over SC damage?
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2017-03-01 16:09:09  
Phoenix.Cyrinn said: »
If making 3 and 4 step skillchains, is it worth using gear that has skillchain damage over weapon skill damage, like Uac Jerkin over a WS Damage Valorous Mail? Or Ryuo Hakama over Hizamaru Haramaki +1?
Only piece I found worth swapping was HQ Ryuo legs (NQ not worth swapping in) if you're using Hizamaru +1. When you get AF+3, there's no swaps necessary that'll make your WS+SC damage higher than just using your normal WSD gear.

Phoenix.Cyrinn said: »
Also, is macroing Kasuga Sune-Ate+1 onto a WS using Sengikori beneficial over the STR, Attack, and WS Damage loss of Valorous Greaves? Or is it better to use them for MB damage over SC damage?
Kasuga Sune-ate +1 are worth it for Sengikori usage for both SC and MB damage since they only have to be worn on the opening WS to get the SC bonus rather than the closing WS.
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By Leviathan.Kingkitt 2017-03-07 07:43:38  
Gathered a little over 60 synths worth of mats for Jinxed Hakama (T0 synths, used login pts to get hexed) but spammed them last night and went 1/55!
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2017-03-09 11:00:06  
Congrats!

I'm gonna update the Dojikiri sets on the previous page soon since a lot of people should at the very least have the +2 SAM hands. I may look into Dagon sets as well.
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2017-03-10 15:24:14  
Fenrir.Ramzus said: »
Here are my findings on Dojikiri, people can feel free to correct me if they have better options.

Things to keep in mind:
57 stp needed to maintain 4-hit w/o SAM roll
66 stp needed to maintain 3-hit w/ SAM roll lucky (128 total needed)

Low Accuracy
Some Accuracy
High Accuracy
Full Accuracy
ItemSet 349270ItemSet 349271ItemSet 349273ItemSet 349274
Low Acc-SamRoll
Some Acc-SamRoll
High Acc-SamRoll
Full Acc-SamRoll
ItemSet 349275ItemSet 349276ItemSet 349277ItemSet 349278

Bump for updated sets, I realize I am very over in STP, but all of the pieces are BiS regardless of that due to other stat pairings and TP overflow being good. You have the option of swapping out STP mantle for DA in a lot of cases, but for the slight DPS increase I don't see it being worthwhile. I'll do Dagon sets soon, maybe today.

Also, the new Nodowa opens up some flexibility on needing +3s vs +2s for STP, so just imagine the NQ nodowa in place of combatants
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2017-03-10 15:51:18  
Dagon sets:


Low Accuracy
Some Accuracy
High Accuracy
Full Accuracy
ItemSet 349907ItemSet 349908ItemSet 349909ItemSet 349910
Low Acc-SamRoll
Some Acc-SamRoll
High Acc-SamRoll
Full Acc-SamRoll
ItemSet 349911ItemSet 349912ItemSet 349913ItemSet 349914


If you have NQ Chirich/Ryuo, just get more STP in your valorous greaves, otherwise 5 STP is fine for greaves.

Also the new 8 STP neck opens up the option to use Wakido Kote +3 w/ some arbitrary high acc feet over Valorous Greaves (like Rao +1, or Wakido +3) for Max Acc 3 hit
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By Ramuh.Austar 2017-03-10 15:53:50  
brutal on the left plz
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2017-03-10 16:13:36  
*sigh*
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By Leviathan.Kingkitt 2017-03-13 14:29:33  
Fenrir.Ramzus said: »
Dagon sets:


Low Accuracy
Some Accuracy
High Accuracy
Full Accuracy
ItemSet 349907ItemSet 349908ItemSet 349909ItemSet 349910
Low Acc-SamRoll
Some Acc-SamRoll
High Acc-SamRoll
Full Acc-SamRoll
ItemSet 349911ItemSet 349912ItemSet 349913ItemSet 349914


If you have NQ Chirich/Ryuo, just get more STP in your valorous greaves, otherwise 5 STP is fine for greaves.

Also the new 8 STP neck opens up the option to use Wakido Kote +3 w/ some arbitrary high acc feet over Valorous Greaves (like Rao +1, or Wakido +3) for Max Acc 3 hit

Which augment path on cape? and augments on Feet?
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-03-13 15:09:29  
I could very well be wrong, but a sam with 5 stp merits has 40 stp base. So if he ws with no additional tp (best sets seem to have none or close to)other than Doji (40+10 = 50 = 190 tp return on ws)- wouldnt they need 73 stp in tp phase (190+[270*3] = 1000)?

Same goes for 3hit w/ lucky roll (2/11) you would have for base (62 roll + 40 + 10 = 112 stp on ws = 269 ws return). This means you need 87 stp on tp pahse for (269 + [367 * 2 ] = 1003)?

I am not a sam main, but I am looking at getting Doji for a side hobby soon Mainly for the 3hit fun, but the numbers seemed off to my understanding. Maybe sam has something I am not aware of.
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2017-03-13 15:55:10  
Fenrir.Ramzus said: »
Things to keep in mind:
57 stp needed to maintain 4-hit w/o SAM roll
66 stp needed to maintain 3-hit w/ SAM roll lucky (128 total needed)

augments are whatever is needed to reach those threshold values. in my examples i use 10 stp cape and 5 stp greaves but that is not always the case.

Asura.Azagarth said: »
I could very well be wrong, but a sam with 5 stp merits has 40 stp base. So if he ws with no additional tp (best sets seem to have none or close to)other than Doji (40+10 = 50 = 190 tp return on ws)- wouldnt they need 73 stp in tp phase (190+[270*3] = 1000)?

Same goes for 3hit w/ lucky roll (2/11) you would have for base (62 roll + 40 + 10 = 112 stp on ws = 269 ws return). This means you need 87 stp on tp pahse for (269 + [367 * 2 ] = 1003)?

I am not a sam main, but I am looking at getting Doji for a side hobby soon Mainly for the 3hit fun, but the numbers seemed off to my understanding. Maybe sam has something I am not aware of.

SAM also gets STP gifts, but no those TP returns are not correct. The spreadsheet automatically detects when you roll over on an xhit, which is what my sets are based off of, this is accounting for WS sets as well.
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By Asura.Ramsy 2017-03-13 18:04:54  
Wondering if anyone would mind sharing their WS sets with me or are the WS sets on the first page still what I should aim for?
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By Phoenix.Cyrinn 2017-03-13 20:56:46  
I've been slowly gearing SAM since I finished Afterglow Yoichinoyumi, and I'd like some advice on my current gearsets. I have 100ish Job Points, so I know I have a long way to go.

Low Acc TP:
ItemSet 349771
I only have one Ambuscade Cape, and it's set up for WS Damage now. I'm working on getting Ambuscade Tokens and Vouchers this month to get the Flamma and Hizamaru that I'm missing. Valorous Greaves have Acc+24 Att+24 Store TP+4. This set is roughly 1080 accuracy without Hasso or buffs.

Higer Acc TP:
ItemSet 349772
Valorous Mail has Acc+28 Store TP+7. Cacoethic Ring+1 can probably be swapped with another Chirich Ring to keep Store TP where I need it. Can also use Kentarch Belt+1 over Iosheka if necessary.

Fudo/Shoha/Gekko/Kasha:
ItemSet 349773
Valorous Mail is STR+13 Accuracy+11 Attack+24 WS Damage+3%, Valorous Greaves have STR+8 Acc+18 Att+18 WS Damage+4%. Cape is STR+30 Acc+20 Att+20 WS Damage+10%. I have a second Ifrit Ring+1 if it's better than Karieyh Ring.
Will probably eventually break Shoha off into it's own set to accommodate the two hits.

Rana:
ItemSet 349774
Uses my Accuracy/Store TP Valorous pieces. Using my WS Damage cape until I can get one with DA or Store TP.

Namas:
ItemSet 349775
I can't get a Ranged Accuracy augment on Valorous to save my life, and I've been lowmanning Divine Might for the body, but no luck so far. I have two Garuda Rings+1 if I need more ranged accuracy, and I could always make a ranged acc cape just for Namas, but it seems unnecessary since Knobkerrie seems to replace everything for ws sets.


I'm working on getting a couple Valorous Masks, and Valorous Gauntlets, as well as starting Omen to work on my AF head, hands, and legs. Is there anything in the meantime I can focus on?
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2017-03-14 10:51:59  
You're not at the haste cap, you need either Acro Helm w/ 3 Haste aug or Ioskeha Belt, I'd personally go with the later cause Acro suxXx. You may want to potentially skip Hizamaru as well since Wakido Haidate +2 have similar stats (but are slightly worse.) I don't know what your Omen standing is so you might be waiting a long *** time.

You'll also want Combatant's Torque until you can get Moonbeam Nodowa since it's good for every job that can use it, and Ryuo head over Rao head for high acc since Path A offers way more accuracy than anything Rao has to offer. You should also look into Wakido Kote +1 and Flamma Dirs +1 for your high acc set.

Your physical WS sets look fine once you swap in the corresponding Valorous pieces so I don't think they need much work there. I can't help w/ Namas though since I don't use bow.
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By Leviathan.Kingkitt 2017-03-14 12:01:51  
Does HQ Ryou have a place in TP/WS sets anymore?
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2017-03-14 12:29:06  
you're going to have to be specific as to which piece you're referring to. the sets i posted not even 5 posts ago show 3 different pieces of HQ ryuo being used
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By Leviathan.Kingkitt 2017-03-14 12:31:07  
Sorry, was referring to body. Currently have the hands/legs.
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2017-03-14 12:34:21  
You could, but you get similar acc from a high acc Valorous Mail with better additional stats (DA/STP) or Wakido Domaru +3 with a ton of STP which frees up other slots.
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By Leviathan.Kingkitt 2017-03-14 12:46:50  
Fenrir.Ramzus said: »
You could, but you get similar acc from a high acc Valorous Mail with better additional stats (DA/STP) or Wakido Domaru +3 with a ton of STP which frees up other slots.

Yeah, true. currently trying to work on 2 different builds. 1 for Masa, and 1 for Doji.
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2017-03-14 13:51:27  
Regardless of the weapon, you still get better stats from the non-Ryuo bodies. You can still technically aim for 3 hit Masamune but it's a bit more difficult, 4 hit is still doable no problem, you just need a bit more STP compared to Dojikiri sets
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