[dev1151] Job Adjustments: Rune Fencer

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 Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-07-10 10:49:15  
If the situation doesn't exist the job is useless lol. I don't even...
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By Phoenix.Thorbean 2013-07-10 10:52:00  
Asura.Ccl said: »
How about run in the sch instead of the pld! Inspiration is better than anything pld give to that pt :P

But yeah if it can survive them, run best use def seems those <25% colonization rate WKR since I believe they hold hate better than pld with spell/ja!



edit: so zelus+orvail > athos +w/e legs ? Also I can't get that 10% haste legs yet D:

Zelus is > Athos as long as you are 2% or less over capped gear haste with zelus.
If you have 25% haste with athos, the 2%FC is giving you an extra 1% reduction over the gear cap.

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By Siren.Kyte 2013-07-10 10:52:47  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
(can you even block with 0?)

I want to say I have before, but I can't say 100% that I was using a subjob without any shield skill. I'm pretty sure when I was BLU/NIN or something when I made the mental note though.

That's not to say it's useful either way.
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By Heimdel 2013-07-10 10:53:29  
Yes can block with 0 and you can get skill for subjobs.
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By Enuyasha 2013-07-10 10:55:21  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
If the situation doesn't exist the job is useless lol. I don't even...
Situations do exist. The job is only "useless" for Delve Bosses and content of its ilk [Legion,maybe Einherjar II] (which is[are] the only group event[s] right?). Continue down the lazy argument path instead of furthering the job by actually researching what it has and can do. "LOLIDONTEVENYOUDONTUNDERSTANDLOLIMJUSTGOINGTODETERTODRKANDSAMLOL" .
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-07-10 10:56:21  
In my world where that pika belt doesn't exist I use thaumas body and twilight belt for capped haste <.< (and also can't change my mirke cause cor is main!)
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-07-10 10:57:17  
Enuyasha, just so you don't bother quoting my posts anymore know that I blocked you to make my forum experience more enjoyable.
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By Enuyasha 2013-07-10 10:58:04  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Enuyasha, just so you don't bother quoting my posts anymore know that I blocked you to make my forum experience more enjoyable.
Thats cool<3 Now i dont have to respond to your DDbox comments and how you dont understand RUN as a job and refuse to work to find out how it fits :)

and have you respond to anything said with "you just dont understand" or "But DRK and SAM!"
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By Asura.Ccl 2013-07-10 11:15:11  
Phoenix.Thorbean said: »


thx, time to skill up my cc till I make +1 feet!


Need also to unlazy and farm bayld for Hurkan - run/nin test!


edit: nvm feet are leather!
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By Phoenix.Thorbean 2013-07-10 11:21:39  
Np, lets see those max emnity sets!!! My inv isn't nearly stretched enough to be happy I have all I need.
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By Enuyasha 2013-07-10 11:25:26  
Do you really want any quickmagic pieces in your precast set :<

I would definitely like to see more optimal sets than have everyone "give up" and just have meh Lunge,WS,and TP sets up.
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By kenshynofshiva 2013-07-10 11:26:56  
For us runs on a budget this baby looks cheap to make:

Voay Sword 99 Great Sword DMG:189 Delay:504 Attack+20 Enmity+15 PLD / DRK / RUN
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-07-10 11:32:59  
Technically Bereaver is cheaper(and better).
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By kenshynofshiva 2013-07-10 11:37:13  
Nah I wouldnt say cheaper opportunity cost or I can spend plasm better elsewhere unless you get the actual GS drop I say better for sure but its for a budget cause the drop was cake and other items look easy as heck.

Phasm farming on my server has died way way way down well I think the server on na side has pretty much died.
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By Phoenix.Thorbean 2013-07-10 11:51:46  
Enuyasha said: »
Do you really want any quickmagic pieces in your precast set :<

That's for recast but also works as precast too. (Stuff you don't need potency/whatever for). I'd worry about missing midcast swaps with 80%FC, 73% is already crazy fast for most stuff you would want to be casting mid fight.
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By kenshynofshiva 2013-07-10 12:00:40  
It really just hit me with the super fast cast merits RUN really is the rebirth of rdm/nin tank just without the heals. How fast can it toss stoneskin now....
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By Phoenix.Brixy 2013-07-10 13:04:18  
Takes about 2 seconds to cast stoneskin on run lol. Don't need cures if you never take damage!

Edit: Some of the recasts to show rdm 2.0. sorry rdms :/
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By Asura.Ccl 2013-07-10 13:13:11  
Max enmity set:

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By Sylph.Organic 2013-07-12 22:22:33  
Asura.Ccl said: »
Max enmity set:

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doesnt enmity cap at +50?
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2013-07-12 22:26:04  
No, -enmity caps at 50. +100% enmity isn't the same as -100% enmity.
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By Sylph.Organic 2013-07-12 22:27:28  
Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
No, -enmity caps at 50. +100% enmity isn't the same as -100% enmity.


thats good to know...learn something new every day

thanks!
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2013-07-12 22:34:54  
kenshynofshiva said: »
I really want to try a low man shin with a run/nin and whm for fun.
This is late but are you serious? Lowman shin? You can already solo it without brew, and any DD+WHM will kill it easily.
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By kenshynofshiva 2013-07-16 15:39:56  
Phoenix.Brixy said: »
Takes about 2 seconds to cast stoneskin on run lol. Don't need cures if you never take damage!

Edit: Some of the recasts to show rdm 2.0. sorry rdms :/

Sweet.....
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-07-16 15:47:49  
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Enuyasha, just so you don't bother quoting my posts anymore know that I blocked you to make my forum experience more enjoyable.
Thats cool<3 Now i dont have to respond to your DDbox comments and how you dont understand RUN as a job and refuse to work to find out how it fits :)

and have you respond to anything said with "you just dont understand" or "But DRK and SAM!"


Enuy is right... In a sense, RUN is not useless, it's so far only a very small Niche of events, I'm sure SE will add something rediculous that is only weakened by RUN JA or something.

I mean Hey once upon a time, everyone said LOL SCH. Now look at the job.
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