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By Siren.Kenesu 2014-07-03 13:59:08  
I see better numbers while eating sushi. maybe its because im elvaan lol
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By fractalvoid 2014-07-03 14:00:38  
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This is what I use minus the body. I use orion+1. always us sole+1 or riverfin (if i can find on the ah)

I use Arcadian Bracers +1 for hands now and only swap to Sigyn's when I need acc. That set is fine; like I said I don't have the #s on Arcadian Jerkin+1 vs Orion Jerkin+1 but if you have snapshot merited (which you should) it makes sense that Arcadian would win, unless you really needed the r.acc.

As far as food, I use pot-au-feu, kohlrouladen or riverfin depending on event/set-up and who I'm going with

edit: tried /checkparam with this set on (with arcadian+1 instead of sigyn's) and am at 972 r.acc. Should probably use Kyu for delve2 and D/VD high-tier battlefields regardless of whether it makes a 4hit
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2014-07-03 14:12:42  
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2x Gjallarhorn Prelude and Hunter's Roll (Was enough even before the new rings) with a base of ~990 Ranged Accuracy should be enough accuracy for Delve 2 and Difficult AAs while eating Red Curry.


http://bg-wiki.com/bg/Red_Curry_Bun

This was like this 8 months ago when i left the game, with as much as people use RCB on RNG for non-racc food, if it was incorrect, I would have assumed it would have been fixed by now.

As far as food for RNG, Only good options I see are:

Kohlrouladen +1 or Riverfin Soup if you need R Acc

Dragon Steak or Hydra Kofte if you do not.

Or if you wanna be cheap Pot-a-feu/Sushi lol.
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By fractalvoid 2014-07-03 14:17:09  
I don't understand the first part of your post.

Also, kohlrouladen and pot-au-feu are almost the same.
I'd rather use salisbury steak over kofte as well, but that's just me.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2014-07-03 14:23:02  
fractalvoid said: »
I don't understand the first part of your post.

Also, kohlrouladen and pot-au-feu are almost the same.
I'd rather use salisbury steak over kofte as well, but that's just me.


The link is to BGwiki, and is pertaining to this:

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HP +25
Strength +7
Agility +1
Intelligence -2
Attack +23% (Cap: 150@652 Base Attack)
Ranged Attack +23% (Cap: 75@375 Base Ranged Attack)
Demon Killer +4%

Also I could see Salisbury Steak in place of Hydra Kofte if you felt like gearing for the -Store TP, but that kinda feels like beating a dead horse, Probably just easier to use Dragon Steak/Hydra Kofte but to each their own.
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By Asura.Failaras 2014-07-03 14:31:28  
Quetzalcoatl.Glecent said: »
2x Gjallarhorn Prelude and Hunter's Roll (Was enough even before the new rings) with a base of ~990 Ranged Accuracy should be enough accuracy for Delve 2 and Difficult AAs while eating Red Curry.
So that's 90 from Ghorn Preludes, 40~ from Hunter's Roll, total of 1120. Assuming a pickup setup which is what I am mainly aiming for of no Cor and a +3 Brd I'd need around 1000 accuracy to use Red Curry. Probably more realistic to use Pot-Au-Feu so like 950 Accuracy. Seems like that set I posted earlier is enough.
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-07-03 14:34:15  
Riverfin Soup and Coursers roll instead of Hunter's roll is always the correct choice.

Edit: This is only if you care about the ego stroke/have gil to burn

Realistically there is no content in the game that requires Riverfin Soup and you can easily get by with Pot-Au-Feu or Sushi and still clear.
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By Bahamut.Greyfawkz 2014-07-03 14:36:04  
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Riverfin Soup and Coursers roll instead of Hunter's roll is always the correct choice.

1000 times, this.
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-07-03 14:44:46  
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Bahamut.Baozzer said: »
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Whats your avg EES on relevant content? On AAs I do anywhere from 2.3-3k just stacking RATT on every slot.



Though fully buffed last stands can do a bit more on this Mob.

Very nice but I assume that's a crit and not an avg.

try it and see.

Aura down with a decent set and buffs and that is normal, maybe even on the low end depending on how many minuets you're afforded.
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By fractalvoid 2014-07-03 14:48:48  
Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget said: »
Also I could see Salisbury Steak in place of Hydra Kofte if you felt like gearing for the -Store TP, but that kinda feels like beating a dead horse, Probably just easier to use Dragon Steak/Hydra Kofte but to each their own.

There is no -sTP. I did testing (albeit not extensive, but I'd say it was fairly conclusive)
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By Ragnarok.Exavion 2014-07-03 14:49:41  
I thought the -STP on Smoldering salisbury steak was disproven?

It's around 20k cheaper than hydra kofte on my server.
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By fractalvoid 2014-07-03 14:50:40  
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/43628/best-rng-food#2649349
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2014-07-03 14:52:00  
Ragnarok.Exavion said: »
I thought the -STP on Smoldering salisbury steak was disproven?

It's around 20k cheaper than hydra kofte on my server.

Ah, well, if that's true than yeah, Smoldering Salisbury Steak if you can get it, if not Dragon Steak/Hydra Kofte would be second.
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-07-03 14:54:02  
Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget said: »
fractalvoid said: »
I don't understand the first part of your post.

Also, kohlrouladen and pot-au-feu are almost the same.
I'd rather use salisbury steak over kofte as well, but that's just me.


The link is to BGwiki, and is pertaining to this:

Quote:
HP +25
Strength +7
Agility +1
Intelligence -2
Attack +23% (Cap: 150@652 Base Attack)
Ranged Attack +23% (Cap: 75@375 Base Ranged Attack)
Demon Killer +4%

Also I could see Salisbury Steak in place of Hydra Kofte if you felt like gearing for the -Store TP, but that kinda feels like beating a dead horse, Probably just easier to use Dragon Steak/Hydra Kofte but to each their own.


It's a moot point really, as Riverfin Soup is going to give you more RATK/RACC in total with 3 minuets and 1 prelude (or 4 minuets and 1 prelude) Then Double Prelude and 3 minuets with (SV)
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By Quetzalcoatl.Glecent 2014-07-03 14:57:09  
We use 2 CORs. Hunter's/Chaos + Courser's/Rogue's. So Red Curry Bun is still the correct choice for me. I've already been quite sure that the cap of Red Curry Buns is higher than what sites listed. No idea where that lower cap came from however many years ago it showed up. But just to make 100% sure, I logged in and used one. 1010 --> 1165 attack. 150 cap. I was solo so no idea what difference having a party member would have made.
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-07-03 14:57:50  
Quetzalcoatl.Glecent said: »
We use 2 CORs. Hunter's/Chaos + Courser's/Rogue's. So Red Curry Bun is still the correct choice for me. I've already been quite sure that the cap of Red Curry Buns is higher than what sites listed. No idea where that lower cap came from however many years ago it showed up. But just to make 100% sure, I logged in and used one. 1010 --> 1165 attack. 150 cap. I was solo so no idea what difference having a party member would have made.

Could use Riverfin, Get SAM roll. 3 hit. (not being snarky, just saying thats preferable with 2 cor)
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By Quetzalcoatl.Glecent 2014-07-03 15:03:18  
Even 40 Store TP from an XI would only give me 31.4 TP/hit with Recycle. And not building 2 sets for when I have or don't have SAM roll. Also not going to tell the rest of the LS they need to have extra builds for SAM roll up or down.
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By fractalvoid 2014-07-03 15:04:31  
Yeah, with getting 2 COR buffs, I can assume you run with only LS and don't have to worry about someone being a derp and getting everyone killed, thus wasting a 200k+ soup (as often happens in pick-up-groups, which is why I tend to use kohlrouladen/pot-au-feu)

Quetzalcoatl.Glecent said: »
And not building 2 sets for when I have or don't have SAM roll

It's easy to make a GS rule for SAM roll up. I'm not trying to antagonize either so hope you don't take it that way.
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-07-03 15:05:26  
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Even 40 Store TP from an XI would only give me 31.4 TP/hit with Recycle. And not building 2 sets for when I have or don't have SAM roll. Also not going to tell the rest of the LS they need to have extra builds for SAM roll up or down.

Was assuming Anni. With Anni and the new COR ring it's very very easy to 3 Hit (and you should be any time you have 2 cors.)
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By Quetzalcoatl.Glecent 2014-07-03 15:10:27  
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Quetzalcoatl.Glecent said: »
Even 40 Store TP from an XI would only give me 31.4 TP/hit with Recycle. And not building 2 sets for when I have or don't have SAM roll. Also not going to tell the rest of the LS they need to have extra builds for SAM roll up or down.

Was assuming Anni. With Anni and the new COR ring it's very very easy to 3 Hit (and you should be any time you have 2 cors.)
Nah, Yoichinoyumi.

fractalvoid said: »
Yeah, with getting 2 COR buffs, I can assume you run with only LS and don't have to worry about someone being a derp and getting everyone killed, thus wasting a 200k+ soup (as often happens in pick-up-groups, which is why I tend to use kohlrouladen/pot-au-feu)

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And not building 2 sets for when I have or don't have SAM roll

It's easy to make a GS rule for SAM roll up. I'm not trying to antagonize either so hope you don't take it that way.
The rule is easy yeah, but I have 4 TP sets already for varying accuracy. Don't really want to have to deal with varying Store TP now too. I guess only 1 set is a 4-hit so I could use if SAM roll and if that TP set then equip a couple extra Store TP pieces but then I'd still have to assume it's at least 40 Store TP from the roll. And if it wasn't I'd be wasting slots on Store TP for no reason.
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-07-03 15:16:33  
Quetzalcoatl.Glecent said: »
Carbuncle.Dagget said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Glecent said: »
Even 40 Store TP from an XI would only give me 31.4 TP/hit with Recycle. And not building 2 sets for when I have or don't have SAM roll. Also not going to tell the rest of the LS they need to have extra builds for SAM roll up or down.

Was assuming Anni. With Anni and the new COR ring it's very very easy to 3 Hit (and you should be any time you have 2 cors.)
Nah, Yoichinoyumi.

fractalvoid said: »
Yeah, with getting 2 COR buffs, I can assume you run with only LS and don't have to worry about someone being a derp and getting everyone killed, thus wasting a 200k+ soup (as often happens in pick-up-groups, which is why I tend to use kohlrouladen/pot-au-feu)

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And not building 2 sets for when I have or don't have SAM roll

It's easy to make a GS rule for SAM roll up. I'm not trying to antagonize either so hope you don't take it that way.
The rule is easy yeah, but I have 4 TP sets already for varying accuracy. Don't really want to have to deal with varying Store TP now too. I guess only 1 set is a 4-hit so I could use if SAM roll and if that TP set then equip a couple extra Store TP pieces but then I'd still have to assume it's at least 40 Store TP from the roll. And if it wasn't I'd be wasting slots on Store TP for no reason.

Might not be 100% worth it for Yoichi (it could be depending on how much STP you could swap out, but who has time for yoichi maths).

With 2 CORs and Annihilator, if you're not 3 hitting you're missing out.
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By Sylph.Talon 2014-07-03 15:22:14  
Siren.Kenesu said: »
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This is what I use minus the body. I use orion+1. always us sole+1 or riverfin (if i can find on the ah)

Add Kyujutsugi and Tripudio Earring and you have yourself a 4 hit build for anyone who is wondering.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Glecent 2014-07-03 15:51:46  
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Might not be 100% worth it for Yoichi (it could be depending on how much STP you could swap out, but who has time for yoichi maths).

With 2 CORs and Annihilator, if you're not 3 hitting you're missing out.

If I take my current set posted on the last page, add 40 STP from Samurai roll, add 15 more STP to my TP set which would be back, waist, and legs, and then further modify my Jishnu's set to make sure I get back 33 TP from that it would work. Still have to land Recycle on WS and both shots after. Not sure if it's worth the effort lol. After they give us Empyrean 119 it'd be better. Need the STP from the legs and hands back.
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By Carbuncle.Yellowman 2014-07-03 16:43:16  
Sylph.Talon said: »
Siren.Kenesu said: »
ItemSet 325510

This is what I use minus the body. I use orion+1. always us sole+1 or riverfin (if i can find on the ah)

Add Kyujutsugi and Tripudio Earring and you have yourself a 4 hit build for anyone who is wondering.

So there's really no need to get them HQ +1 pants that's going for around 4mill? sorry dont know the name of it but i know it starts with the letter A i think.
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-07-03 16:44:28  
Quetzalcoatl.Glecent said: »
Carbuncle.Dagget said: »
Might not be 100% worth it for Yoichi (it could be depending on how much STP you could swap out, but who has time for yoichi maths).

With 2 CORs and Annihilator, if you're not 3 hitting you're missing out.

If I take my current set posted on the last page, add 40 STP from Samurai roll, add 15 more STP to my TP set which would be back, waist, and legs, and then further modify my Jishnu's set to make sure I get back 33 TP from that it would work. Still have to land Recycle on WS and both shots after. Not sure if it's worth the effort lol. After they give us Empyrean 119 it'd be better. Need the STP from the legs and hands back.
It's worth it. (pretty sure all 3 hits are 3/3 recycle mandatory)
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-07-03 16:45:37  
Carbuncle.Yellowman said: »
Sylph.Talon said: »
Siren.Kenesu said: »
ItemSet 325510

This is what I use minus the body. I use orion+1. always us sole+1 or riverfin (if i can find on the ah)

Add Kyujutsugi and Tripudio Earring and you have yourself a 4 hit build for anyone who is wondering.

So there's really no need to get them HQ +1 pants that's going for around 4mill? sorry dont know the name of it but i know it starts with the letter A i think.

You need them to 3 hit Annihilator and 4 hit Yoichi. ( i think?)

So they are worth it when you're using 2 corsairs.
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By Carbuncle.Yellowman 2014-07-03 16:49:50  
Carbuncle.Dagget said: »
Carbuncle.Yellowman said: »
Sylph.Talon said: »
Siren.Kenesu said: »
ItemSet 325510

This is what I use minus the body. I use orion+1. always us sole+1 or riverfin (if i can find on the ah)

Add Kyujutsugi and Tripudio Earring and you have yourself a 4 hit build for anyone who is wondering.

So there's really no need to get them HQ +1 pants that's going for around 4mill? sorry dont know the name of it but i know it starts with the letter A i think.

You need them to 3 hit Annihilator and 4 hit Yoichi. ( i think?)

hmmmmm well that's the thing i'm just in a social LS and rarely do any kind of events that involved so much folks, i usually join shout events more often if anything that's why i'm trying to see if they are really worth getting or not which i wont mind if i'm going to be putting them into good use most of the time but if not i'll probably just pass on them.
So they are worth it when you're using 2 corsairs.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-07-03 16:52:51  
I wish there was just a chart, one that shows what you need to xhit
Kinda like what Kincard did for the nin forum, having 6 different sets at varying states of haste/dw.

IE;
Anni; stp tp/ws 4hit 4/4 recycles
Anni; stp tp/ws 4hit 3/4 recycles

Yoichi; stp tp/ws 5hit 5/5 recycles

etc etc, that'd be really awesome if someone added that, then there wouldn't be a thousand of the same question.
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By Ragnarok.Exavion 2014-07-03 17:05:21  
Something like this?

http://www.heckdesigns.com/demos/ffxi-calculators/stp.php

Still need to calculate how many recycles you would need but its been pretty helpful to me.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-07-03 17:13:52  
Yeah, like that, but it's inaccurate, it's from 2012, it's only slightly inaccurate but nevertheless.

And no recycles, you have to add it up manually etc. I'd rather one guy just make a sweet chart for references.
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