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Power Rangers: A Guide to Pewing
 Quetzalcoatl.Valli
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-06-18 09:11:39
2% WS damage hmmm... simple maths...
2% of 1000 = 20 damage,
If you WS do 10000, extra damage would be 200.
To be honest, don't find it that amazing. I will probably get STP so can play with my sets..
Coronoch usually does 2k (AA's) to 5k~ Delve and 10k on weakness stuff Colibri, Cherti etc...
2% damage on 5k might beat Prester, if you can make the Xhit work with the new delay calculation. I'm not an ffximaffmaster though.
+ Atoyac has DEX and AGI on it <.<;; minor coronoch mod boost go!
By kenshynofshiva 2014-06-18 09:23:42
Does the Critical hit rate+4% on a atoyac not effect range?
 Quetzalcoatl.Waffless
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By Quetzalcoatl.Waffless 2014-06-18 10:33:28
Quetzalcoatl.Waffless said: »If you shot in 1 more stp you would be in a 2/4 recycle 4-hit.
You might want to consider dropping a lot of stp instead, and hitting the minimum stp values for a 3/4 recycle 4-hit, using 31 stp to shoot and 21 stp to ws.
So I'm finally diving back into trying to gear rng for 4 hit. I can hit 42 stp but I would have to get a mekki shakki, or would using 31 stp tp/ 21 stp ws be more practical?
Bump. Looks like anni tp barely changed, still looking for an answer for this, thanks.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2014-06-18 12:10:42
Does the Critical hit rate+4% on a atoyac not effect range?
No, or jupiter staff would be amazing
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2014-06-18 12:42:52
Did the testing myself for atoyac
Target: wild rabbit
weaponskill: coronach
@15 distance
atoyac equiped both occasions, otherwise naked.
No augment:
4498
4498
4498
4498
WS damage augment:
4587
4587
4587
4587
(4587-4498)=89
(89/4498)*100%=1.978%
Concerning prester comparison, coronach ftp is 3.0 unless changed this patch, prester adds .1 ftp meaning a ((.1/3)*100%)=3.33% damage increase. However it does not work for last stand. Atoyac works for both, and has the stat mods for both. Also fencer bonus is even more relevant now with last stand.
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By fractalvoid 2014-06-18 13:03:28
Cerberus.Maeldiar said: »Did the testing myself for atoyac
Target: wild rabbit
weaponskill: coronach
@15 distance
atoyac equiped both occasions, otherwise naked.
No augment:
4498
4498
4498
4498
WS damage augment:
4587
4587
4587
4587
(4587-4498)=89
(89/4498)*100%=1.978%
Concerning prester comparison, coronach ftp is 3.0 unless changed this patch, prester adds .1 ftp meaning a ((.1/3)*100%)=3.33% damage increase. However it does not work for last stand. Atoyac works for both, and has the stat mods for both. Also fencer bonus is even more relevant now with last stand.
Nice, thanks for this. Kinda sucks the wsd only works for first hit of last stand, but I think I'd rather use this regardless. Especially since we can 4hit anni using /WAR now!
On an unrelated note; has anyone tested Trueflight now? If not I will get the WS tonight and do some testing myself. Will likely take me a day or 2 to do it, but definitely worth trying.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2014-06-18 13:15:59
I've tried using trueflight against the gnole in Kamihr drifts and got horrible numbers (150~). I think it's still mainly physical because once blue was procced just before I weaponskilled and it ended up doing 1800. But who knows maybe I suck lol.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-06-18 13:15:59
Nice, thanks for this. Kinda sucks the wsd only works for first hit of last stand, but I think I'd rather use this regardless. Especially since we can 4hit anni using /WAR now!
What's the 4 hit /war w/ dagger set look like?
With 12 dex 12agi and WSD 2% that should easily beat presters 3.33%, 12 dex 12 agi has to beat 1.33% wsd, right? So time to drop prester?
By fractalvoid 2014-06-18 13:19:10
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »Nice, thanks for this. Kinda sucks the wsd only works for first hit of last stand, but I think I'd rather use this regardless. Especially since we can 4hit anni using /WAR now!
What's the 4 hit /war w/ dagger set look like?
With 12 dex 12agi and WSD 2% that should easily beat presters 3.33%, 12 dex 12 agi has to beat 1.33% wsd, right? So time to drop prester?
This was posted on the last page:
Cerberus.Maeldiar said: »too lazy to make a nice equip grid so:
tp:
hurlbat legion anni achi
arcadian ocachi tripudio volley
kyu mani bellona hadjuk
sylvan eliand aeto +1 orion
coronach:
arcadian ocachi vulcan vulcan
kyu arcadian rajas pryo
buqu ele-belt nahirtah arcadian
Depending on if ws-damage works on atoyac or not, an option I will take is to put stp+5 on that and change out the back piece to jse cape. I think i'm over tp anyways but this works for me.
I have yet to test it myself... Still missing Kyu and Tripudio. Still unsure why Bellona's and Mani hands are in there but I think that's just that specific user's set. Would personally use Sigyn's and Rajas, and switch out Sylvan Chalmys.
edit: switch out Chalmys for Lutian is what I meant.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2014-06-18 13:20:02
4 hit /war 1 handed posted last page, it depends on recycle but its like 90% consistant
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2014-06-18 13:23:16
Would personally use Sigyn's and Rajas, and switch out Sylvan Chalmys. I'll agree with the back and ring swaps, I don't have lutian yet. I like mani gloves because my acc is fine and they offer 18 more rattk
By fractalvoid 2014-06-18 13:32:35
No worries. Thanks a bunch for posting that set.
I should make a pair of Mani Hands as well, but am trying to wait til I finish my Yoichi as they're more useful for bow, but I'm just attached to my Sigyn's lol
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-06-18 13:37:46
So basically it's the exact same set, only doesn't require Bloodrain strap's STP to make it work anymore.
Didn't the tp per shot go up by 20+? to like 270 (in that set) /w recycle making even less STP needed?
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2014-06-18 13:41:53
With no gear, I only saw it go from 16.6 TP per shot, to 167 per shot.
I did do a mistype on the BG forums, saying it went to 187, but I corrected it on here.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-06-18 13:56:18
Ah that' what I saw, the 187 on bg, didn't know it was a mistake, thanks for clearing that up. Hadn't been on rng since the update.
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By Sylph.Talon 2014-06-18 13:59:05
ItemSet 319602
This is what i'm personally running with at the moment. 4 hit for rng/war.
I've modified Last stand + Coronach to give me 23-24 tp on return so I can maintain 4 hit.
Always riverfin soup.
Example: Marjani Ravine Delve
Mythic BRD will give me 1 prelude, 4 minuets. They have clarion call 10/10 on job points and keep it up the whole time.
racc = 95% on average
I used to put a Bellona's Ring in for the ranged attack + 8 but switched for hajduk ring
Please critique.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2014-06-18 14:28:38
If racc is capped, then I can't think of anything better, maybe atoyac with wsd but I havn't tried it in delve yet.
But you could use a little more racc and gear then you wont have to use riverfin all the time. #$
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By Sylph.Talon 2014-06-18 14:41:41
Cerberus.Maeldiar said: »If racc is capped, then I can't think of anything better, maybe atoyac with wsd but I havn't tried it in delve yet.
But you could use a little more racc and gear then you wont have to use riverfin all the time. #$
Amen to that brother but at this stage in the game, go hard or go home. Riverfin Soup is just way to sexy to pass up and its only gil at this point.
I could change to aetosaur +1 legs to make up for losing Ocachi Gorget or Arcadian Braccae +1.
For feet, I could switch to Orion Socks +1. I start messing with Store TP at that point though.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Glecent 2014-06-18 15:07:49
Example: Marjani Ravine Delve
Mythic BRD will give me 1 prelude, 4 minuets. They have clarion call 10/10 on job points and keep it up the whole time.
racc = 95% on average
I used to put a Bellona's Ring in for the ranged attack + 8 but switched for hajduk ring
Please critique.
You don't use a COR? I'm used to 3-song BRD and a COR, Prelude x2, Minuet x1, Hunter's/Chaos giving me capped accuracy using Red Curry Bun with ~990 base ranged accuracy.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2014-06-18 15:19:02
dont forget hunter's caps at 78 acc now!
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By Bahamut.Greyfawkz 2014-06-18 16:22:16
ItemSet 319855
Ok, so I'm gonna start using this set.. I've been using it on a few random things, and so far it's still a 4hit if 2/4 recycle proc as far as I can tell.
sidenote, I just augmented ajjub with occ. attacks twice.. and it's frickin badass for lower content XD
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2014-06-18 16:25:33
Crossposting from COR thread, comparing the WSD+2 on the WKR dagger, vs Prester
Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »Cerberus.Maeldiar said: »just tested it myself, thank god ranged damage is so consistent so I didnt need a large sample size:
Target: wild rabbit
weaponskill: coronach
@15 distance
atoyac equiped both occasions, otherwise naked.
No augment:
4498
4498
4498
4498
WS damage augment:
4587
4587
4587
4587
(4587-4498)=89
(89/4498)*100%=1.978
what ammo were you using?
naked, rng/war, 99 anni, using Prester
Adliviun Bullet - 5632
Achi Bullet - 6140
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2014-06-18 16:36:28
i was /blm using adaman bullets if it matters.
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2014-06-18 16:38:28
It does. I'll copy that and retest in a few
By fractalvoid 2014-06-18 16:51:15
Hmmmm I just bought Aetosaur Trousers +1 - not sure if they're worth keeping now since it seems we can 4hit without them :<
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By Sylph.Talon 2014-06-18 16:51:21
Quetzalcoatl.Glecent said: »Example: Marjani Ravine Delve
Mythic BRD will give me 1 prelude, 4 minuets. They have clarion call 10/10 on job points and keep it up the whole time.
racc = 95% on average
I used to put a Bellona's Ring in for the ranged attack + 8 but switched for hajduk ring
Please critique.
You don't use a COR? I'm used to 3-song BRD and a COR, Prelude x2, Minuet x1, Hunter's/Chaos giving me capped accuracy using Red Curry Bun with ~990 base ranged accuracy.
Great point. I failed to mention that. Bellona's Ring would work then or I just use the Digaz Ring from Odin 2.0 which is +10 ranged attack.
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By Sylph.Talon 2014-06-18 16:52:33
Bahamut.Greyfawkz said: »ItemSet 319855
Ok, so I'm gonna start using this set.. I've been using it on a few random things, and so far it's still a 4hit if 2/4 recycle proc as far as I can tell.
sidenote, I just augmented ajjub with occ. attacks twice.. and it's frickin badass for lower content XD
Have you tried using Kyujutsugi + Arcadian Bracers +1 with this build?
Type of food used?
Hunter/chaos from cor with what type of songs?
Thanks kind sir.
By fractalvoid 2014-06-18 17:04:37
Would the +r.atk rings beat out Pyrosoul now? (For the people talking about Dagaz and Bellona's) Figure it's harder to cap fstr2 now thus the STR rings would be of greater benefit but not sure.
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2014-06-18 17:12:35
Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »It does. I'll copy that and retest in a few
no Adaman Bullets for sale, can you retest using Adliviun?
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By Bahamut.Greyfawkz 2014-06-18 17:36:50
Bahamut.Greyfawkz said: »ItemSet 319855
Ok, so I'm gonna start using this set.. I've been using it on a few random things, and so far it's still a 4hit if 2/4 recycle proc as far as I can tell.
sidenote, I just augmented ajjub with occ. attacks twice.. and it's frickin badass for lower content XD
Have you tried using Kyujutsugi + Arcadian Bracers +1 with this build?
Type of food used?
Hunter/chaos from cor with what type of songs?
Thanks kind sir.
No, I wanted to make use of Arcadian's 5% double shot, food is always Riverfin. I only use Arcadian hands for weapons skills.
Haven't gotten to take the set to an event yet, I believe the Racc was 1005 without buffs or food, can't check now I'm not at home.
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