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 Leviathan.Andret
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By Leviathan.Andret 2019-10-10 15:13:13  
Wouldn't Bikku Hose +1 make a better choice? It has 20 kicks and 8 store tp.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2019-10-10 15:16:29  
You lose a whole bunch of eva, m.eva, attack, acc, critrate, defense, 9 str. There's probably a situation where buffs would make the Bhikku win, but realistically I can't see people wanting to use them.

Bhikku+3 will likely be a different story.
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By eeternal 2019-10-10 15:19:21  
Tried eyeballing on apex mobs @ DHO Gates for 30 mins.. capped attack vere r15.. VS is 40-55k with impetus up.. RF has noticeably changed tho been getting 45k-70k, but RF sucks with SC..

On another note, TK is devastating with footwork.. had plenty of 99k but average I would say 50k-80k all with 2200tp

I am not expert on DPS simulation, however, this update won't really make mnk top the charts, thats how i feel but nice adjustments.

I hope someone can do a detailed analysis, the above is just rough eyeballing
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-10-10 15:21:00  
Multi attacks on tornado kick are impressive to say the least. Even without footwork.
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2019-10-10 15:53:30  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Multi attacks on tornado kick are impressive to say the least. Even without footwork.





just dicking around...

edit: these are all 2K+ TP obviously.

Just eyeballing samples the difference between 1K and 2K given the dev notes, was expectedly immense.
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By Bahamut.Eternallight 2019-10-10 15:54:10  
Is that a 52k combo? LOL
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 Shiva.Applesmash
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By Shiva.Applesmash 2019-10-10 16:36:37  
RF impetus down, VS impetus up
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By Crossbones 2019-10-10 17:02:06  
It honestly depends on if you think a RF past 2k tp will do more than 2 VS plus SC at 1k TP. Even with impetus down using godhands I'd hit 25k VSs that ended in 35k light or whatever (TY SC bonus). SC property really hurts RF although I did quite a few 2k RF > 2k TK for detonation that absolutely obliterated the mobs butthole.
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By Asura.Outlawbruce 2019-10-10 17:26:15  
Crossbones said: »
It honestly depends on if you think a RF past 2k tp will do more than 2 VS plus SC at 1k TP. Even with impetus down using godhands I'd hit 25k VSs that ended in 35k light or whatever (TY SC bonus). SC property really hurts RF although I did quite a few 2k RF > 2k TK for detonation that absolutely obliterated the mobs butthole.

Edit: Sorry, Cross. I thought you were saying that it did beat it. Which I definitely do not think it does. I miss read. My bad

Are you using R15 vere? Cause 2 VS + SC will beat the 2k RF from what I see. Even throw in the shij>smite>smite will for sure beat someone waiting till 2k.
Godhands are definitely awesome. But only way I see them winning is when impetus is down.
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2019-10-10 17:42:22  


Definitely nothing over powered about that SP2

This one made me chuckle:


Because Screenshots tend to be cherry picked lines from the log, Victory Spam:

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By Nariont 2019-10-10 17:44:42  
Any of the rare glanz mnks give mythic ws a go?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-10-10 17:51:43  
Inner strength only lasts 30 seconds so it’s good for a full cure, osht moment, or when you’ve gotta last minute tank a hundred fists that will kill you otherwise. Wish it was 3 minutes
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By Asura.Outlawbruce 2019-10-10 17:57:49  
So are we needing to adjust our victory smite sets now?
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2019-10-10 17:59:02  
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Inner strength only lasts 30 seconds so it’s good for a full cure, osht moment, or when you’ve gotta last minute tank a hundred fists that will kill you otherwise. Wish it was 3 minutes

Look Galka, you just got an adjustment so you no longer have to multi-step with Godhands to kill things in under a minute. Now you want a SP2 that last 3 minutes like Bolster? Why don't we just merge GEO and MNK and call it SHL for Shaolin and give it a relic called Devil Hands? Miss you mang!
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-10-10 18:02:04  
I have to enjoy this while it lasts because, judging by history, this is going to be rolled back in roughly a month. I gotta take what I can get at this point, first time in years monk has popped up without some “hey big head!!!” commentary.
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By Taint 2019-10-10 19:17:18  
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
I have to enjoy this while it lasts because, judging by history, this is going to be rolled back in roughly a month. I gotta take what I can get at this point, first time in years monk has popped up without some “hey big head!!!” commentary.


Or next month is SAM update and everything becomes second.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-10-10 19:36:41  
Every dog has his day.
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By SimonSes 2019-10-10 20:28:48  
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
I have to enjoy this while it lasts because, judging by history, this is going to be rolled back in roughly a month. I gotta take what I can get at this point, first time in years monk has popped up without some “hey big head!!!” commentary.

Pretty sure it wont be rolled back. Last time it was an error with WSD working for all hits. Now its a intentional change, that they prepared for. If they start rolling things back they will admit they are "testing" things on real sever instead of on their side and they wont do it. Not with so few ppl to work on game. They wont bother to readjust WSs again and again. Also what is more important there is 0 reason to do it from their perspective. WSing for 50-70k in escha during impetus+cor+brd+geo isnt broken. Sure with monk white damage it might be a new best thing overall but its still very close to SAM spaming fudo for 50+k with way higher WS frequency or spaming 60-80k Impulse while waiting for higher TP like MNK with Tornado or RF.
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By Mrgrim 2019-10-10 20:34:01  
Did ambu earlier, moogle did benediction at 10% (***). Popped every JA including impetus and went to pound town on it. Initial VS was 25k-35k or so, but oce impetus hits got stacked VS started doing 45k-65k per WS, with a couple of VS doing 80k dmg. It was amazing watching that dmg being dished out so fast in no time. Took me a 1:30 to bring it back down to 10%.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-10-10 20:51:44  
I thought the sarcasm was obvious, but ok.
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By SimonSes 2019-10-10 21:29:40  
Im really tired and sleepy.

Howling, Tornado, V smite, Shijin, Raging stats are up here

I will do more tomorrow
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-10-10 22:47:39  
Mrgrim said: »
Did ambu earlier, moogle did benediction at 10% (***). Popped every JA including impetus and went to pound town on it. Initial VS was 25k-35k or so, but oce impetus hits got stacked VS started doing 45k-65k per WS, with a couple of VS doing 80k dmg. It was amazing watching that dmg being dished out so fast in no time. Took me a 1:30 to bring it back down to 10%.

What's really fun is if it uses hundred fists. You beat his *** with counters. I did it last year that way.

.... Voidlegs with that 1500% increase.
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By Leviathan.Andret 2019-10-11 00:16:55  
Anyone suggestions for current WS set? I am thinking of swapping Niqmaddu Ring for Epona's because I prefer more chance of DA/TA instead of QA.

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By Ruaumoko 2019-10-11 01:30:16  
Only adjustment I'd make there is to put the +2 Ambuscade legs in for the Kenda for Tornado.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-10-11 01:32:41  
We're back to the classic multi vs wsd(Stat/att) problem.

Windbuffet 2.0

Extra hits worth more than 7%

Spikes make screenshots.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-10-11 02:21:19  
satellites;620367 said:
Hello.
Why isn't there a final heaven even though there is a six-ring zone in the WS adjustment, which is the monk's adjustment month? I want to know why.

Gunisaka;620397 said:
Hello.

When adjusting the final heaven, it is necessary to adjust the entire relic WS.

They might be thinking about/doing a full relic sweep/adjust (they desperately need it) Meleeing Relics being universally "bad" across the board. aside kiko getting some love.

I don't see why they would say they have to adjust "all the relics" they did mercy stroke independently.
 
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By Asura.Outlawbruce 2019-10-11 06:28:12  
Asura.Kusaregedo said: »
this is what i had been using for smite and still produces decent numbers, i'm hesitant to switch away from crit for multi attack

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Prebuff I believe Ken body +1 was better with impetus down (could be wrong there.) Now Ken body definitely should be better with triple attack and crit. Wonder if the same could be said for ken legs and feet now, too? I can test it out little later for sure.
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By Asura.Sechs 2019-10-11 07:45:20  
Pre-buff I was using Rancor Neck and no begrugding, and I think AF+3 body was better, also it's a nice additional +15 acc if you use Regal Ring.

Right now I'm leaning to think Kendatsuba+1 might be a winner in the head, body, legs and feet slot, despite lower STR. Those multiattack procs are hot yo.

Ryou+1 hands still winning probably. Wonder what the next best option after Ryuo+1 would be. Mummu+2? Kendatsuba+1?


Also I guess no more Tonberry items. Other Rings are better than Begrudging and Fotia is quite probably better than Rancor Neck.
Glad to be proven wrong though, hey!
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