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By SimonSes 2019-10-10 07:00:00  
I can tell you that Raging fists is brutal af. Need 30 more minutes of testing RR and im gonna make a thread started with intention to test all WSs
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By Asura.Sechs 2019-10-10 07:04:27  
"brutal af" = af stands for?
"testing RR" = you meant RF?
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By SimonSes 2019-10-10 07:07:20  
Asura.Sechs said: »
"brutal af" = af stands for?
"testing RR" = you meant RF?

RF yes and af = "as ***"

Its broken really.
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By Asura.Sechs 2019-10-10 07:08:19  
:O

I guess that greatly benefits Godhands!
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By Asura.Outlawbruce 2019-10-10 07:28:42  
Quetzalcoatl.Wubbabear said: »
So I just started over with 5 boxing was thinking about doing apoc drk for a beginner strong dd since apoc is decent but with the monk update do you think relic monk would be better?

Nothing happened for relic h2h. Besides boosting the other weapon skills listed. Unless you're actually playing monk its not a good mule choice. It requires a lot of job abilities and timers to get the most damage output out if it. I dont suggest using it unless it's your main you can focus on.

But your best bet returning would be Vere and god hands. Maybe sagg if you arent really controlling the character for more survivability?
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By Spaitin 2019-10-10 07:48:11  
are we positive asuran fists is still 8 hits?
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By SimonSes 2019-10-10 07:51:12  
Spaitin said: »
are we positive asuran fists is still 8 hits?

In game description says it is.
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By SimonSes 2019-10-10 08:02:06  
Raging Fists is up in new thread. Doing Shijin now I think
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By Spaitin 2019-10-10 08:04:14  
nvm i was in my WSD set on asuran lol.
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By Asura.Sechs 2019-10-10 08:14:18  
Those new Raging Fists values look awesome.
Think Fotia Gorget is gonna win over JSE+2 neck, unless you need the additional acc or you can exploit the PDL maybe.

I'm a bit more doubtful on Moonbow+1 vs Fotia Belt. Opinions?
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By SimonSes 2019-10-10 08:21:27  
The higher the TP, the less fotia gives. If you can take advantage of PDL (and assuming you dont use any other PDL like Malignance), JSE+2 is better even at 1000TP. If PDL wont give you anything than Fotia is better. Remember that JSE also adds a lot of accuracy, which you might actually need in WS set more than ever now.
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By Asura.Frod 2019-10-10 08:35:45  
So can 3 monks fist schah to death in 30s or less or is mnk still the glue eater in the back of the class?
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By Asura.Outlawbruce 2019-10-10 08:53:35  
Vere r15
Chaos roll, minuet V, IV (no honor). Sylvie Geo I'm getting 67k victory smites in Dho. Vere are probably still reigning champion
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By SimonSes 2019-10-10 09:00:35  
Asura.Outlawbruce said: »
Vere r15
Chaos roll, minuet V, IV (no honor). Sylvie Geo I'm getting 67k victory smites in Dho. Vere are probably still reigning champion

spikes with impetus up or avg from impetus up/down?
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By Asura.Outlawbruce 2019-10-10 09:04:04  
SimonSes said: »
Asura.Outlawbruce said: »
Vere r15
Chaos roll, minuet V, IV (no honor). Sylvie Geo I'm getting 67k victory smites in Dho. Vere are probably still reigning champion

spikes with impetus up or avg from impetus up/down?

This was one spiked damage(the 67k. Also a 58, 62k). I'd say average was 40-50k range.
This is with impetus up. Apologies. I'll edit this post as well with the set I use.

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By Asura.Weinberg 2019-10-10 09:09:34  
I'm seeing similar numbers as Bruce w/ impetus up, capped attack and no cor rolls. My Impetus down VS range is 25-45k (very limited testing).
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By Asura.Sechs 2019-10-10 09:21:01  
Bruce are you using Path D on Ryuo feet? For the high STR and Crit+4%?
Nice option but good Herc with TA+6% are closer than they used to be, given the FTP transfer to multiattack procs.

I'm still using Rancor Collar for the 5% Crit in my lowacc set °-°
Probably Fotia better than that now...
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By Crossbones 2019-10-10 10:02:03  
Someone tell me wtf gear I'm supposed to use for all these WS now. I'm assuming we don't pretend that RF is just a single hit WS anymore. Can't be out here lookin like a chump.
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2019-10-10 10:08:28  
so, uh. victory smite is basically a 2000 TP resolution that can crit now...? am i reading that right?
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By alamihgo 2019-10-10 10:10:06  
Looks like DA/TA is even more compelling than before (except for AF). Would this hold true for the crit proc WS as well?
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By Asura.Outlawbruce 2019-10-10 10:26:37  
Asura.Sechs said: »
Bruce are you using Path D on Ryuo feet? For the high STR and Crit+4%?
Nice option but good Herc with TA+6% are closer than they used to be, given the FTP transfer to multiattack procs.

I'm still using Rancor Collar for the 5% Crit in my lowacc set °-°
Probably Fotia better than that now...

Yeah, I went with path D. Hmm. I'll have to give that a go
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By Asura.Sechs 2019-10-10 10:28:07  
Crossbones said: »
Someone tell me wtf gear I'm supposed to use for all these WS now. I'm assuming we don't pretend that RF is just a single hit WS anymore. Can't be out here lookin like a chump.
I don't think gear changed THAT MUCH from previous builds.
The only notable swap slots I can think of are Neck and Belt, for Fotia, given how now TP transfers across all hits of most (all?) H2H WSs.

It's not that easy though, because despite that for some WS it's still better to use previous options (JSE+2 neck, Moonbow+1 belt) regardless, kinda depends on the WS and on your set.
Also depends on wether or not you're att-capped (hence can benefit from Neck's 10% PDL) or not.


But yeah other than that I don't think there's a lot of changing swaps? Probably something else I can't think of, but in general it's gonna be small tweaks to old sets rather than completely new ones.
Multiattack is definitely even more efficient now (except Asuran Fists, of course)
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By Asura.Sechs 2019-10-10 10:30:04  
Asura.Outlawbruce said: »
Asura.Sechs said: »
Bruce are you using Path D on Ryuo feet? For the high STR and Crit+4%?
Nice option but good Herc with TA+6% are closer than they used to be, given the FTP transfer to multiattack procs.

I'm still using Rancor Collar for the 5% Crit in my lowacc set °-°
Probably Fotia better than that now...

Yeah, I went with path D. Hmm. I'll have to give that a go
I'm not sure Herc with good aug can beat Ryuo+1 path D now, I just said that for sure it's closer than it used to be, maybe even better who knows, it depends on the aug of course.
Point is that you could get some acc on Herc so, to say the least, they could be a nice piece to swap in your acc sets.
Or they could allow you to use a neck other than JSE+2... granted that JSE+2 is still probably the best when you're att capped.

Damn, I really don't wanna create att capped/uncapped sets, sigh.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2019-10-10 10:35:52  
So heres what I currently have:

R15 Spharai
R0 Godhands
Karambits.

Should I keep using Spharai?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-10-10 10:50:19  
Use Godhands, RF is really, really good. And Shijin made a jump as well. Spharai, you can use when you're tanking, but Final Heaven will fall behind so you won't really be getting much use of the weapon's value. Godhands is gonna beat Spharai in any scenario, with just these changes alone. Especially during Footwork + Impetus (it was already ahead before).
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By SimonSes 2019-10-10 10:57:41  
Shijin stats up in other thread.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2019-10-10 11:10:12  
Thanks for the quick reply.

So for Raging Fists whats our go to as far as gear?

Go for Multi Attack/Attributes now? Stick with the WSDMG+10 pieces where applicable?
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By Nariont 2019-10-10 11:13:52  
Seems like most of the h2h line of ws got replicating ftp sides relic, so MA should win out id think
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By Cerberus.Mrkillface 2019-10-10 11:33:29  
So tornado kick is all over the map for me. Been screwing around on apex bats with geo alt and just did a 90k tornado kick.

next one 20k, 35k, 65k, 25k, 70k, etc.

Seems to even get as high as 70k without footwork.

Using at 2k TP with godhands r0
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By Asura.Sechs 2019-10-10 11:42:43  
20k and 25k were probably with missed hits.
The 90k one was a QA+TA proc maybe?
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