Got no replies on the small question thread, so trying my luck here:
Am I crazy, or did Virelai pets use to be completely passive? They attack mobs if you're on their hate list, now.
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"Completely passive" as in mob did not fight at all regardless of circumstance? Not that I know, as far back as I can remember, pets under Virelai would not attack the enemy until you were at the top of the hate list by an enemy, and then it would auto-attack it. It stays on it after that, regardless of who has hate(meaning you don't have to stay at the top of the list for it to keep attacking), unless you talk to an NPC or something, or it uncharms. Just being on the hate list as you mentioned isn't enough to get it to attack initially though, you've always had to have been at the top before the pet does anything.
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Ah, I was sure they were passive, and I just messed around with it a bit and kinda assumed it was borked >_> thanks!
Honestly, I'm a little disappointed at the amount of Magic Acc on Weatherspoon. It should've been 13~15 to compare/compete with the HQ GS rings.
Also, Highwing helm looks like a good new dd piece :D
Also, Highwing helm looks like a good new dd piece :D
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Ragnarok.Zaenon said: »
Got no replies on the small question thread, so trying my luck here:
Am I crazy, or did Virelai pets use to be completely passive? They attack mobs if you're on their hate list, now.
Am I crazy, or did Virelai pets use to be completely passive? They attack mobs if you're on their hate list, now.
Virelaied mob worked like trust npcs work. The mob would not attack until you attack one mob with your weapon.
Wiki quote : It does not give the same amount of control over the mob as a Beastmaster's Charm does. Charmed enemy will attack anything that attacks the caster.
For the middle precast set, it says it has 79% casting reduction. I'm assuming that's with max (5%) augment on both of the Gende. pieces? Which means it would have 25% Fast Cast and Song spellcasting time -54%. So are Fast Cast and Song spellcasting time additive? (25+54=79)
Also both of the wiki's say that Song spellcasting time caps at -50%, is this true? And if so, would that mean that the precast set has too much Song spellcasting time on it?
Also both of the wiki's say that Song spellcasting time caps at -50%, is this true? And if so, would that mean that the precast set has too much Song spellcasting time on it?
Speaking of which, with Weatherspoon it should be possible to hit cap on song precast without Magian Staff, right?
So, adding to Acacia's question, just to make sure I got it right: the overall cap is 80%, Fast Cast and song spellcasting both cap at 50%, so the goal is to mix the two to reach 80%, correct?
So, adding to Acacia's question, just to make sure I got it right: the overall cap is 80%, Fast Cast and song spellcasting both cap at 50%, so the goal is to mix the two to reach 80%, correct?
FC does not cap at 50%. Otherwise my rdm would really suck.
I've seen notes on wiki about Song spell casting time being capped at 50% but I have never seen that referenced before and I cannot vouch for it being true or not. I'm betting it is not and there is only a global 80% cap.
It'd be fairly easy to test in any case.
I've seen notes on wiki about Song spell casting time being capped at 50% but I have never seen that referenced before and I cannot vouch for it being true or not. I'm betting it is not and there is only a global 80% cap.
It'd be fairly easy to test in any case.
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They upped casting stuff from 50 to 80 a bunch of updates ago.
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my song cast is at cap, and i have about 20% FC gear. so song spell casting time can't be capped at 50%
As the guy above said, it's more than likely that it just have a global cap, regardless of what kind of casting reduction it is.
As the guy above said, it's more than likely that it just have a global cap, regardless of what kind of casting reduction it is.
Cerberus.Spirachub said: »
my song cast is at cap, and i have about 20% FC gear. so song spell casting time can't be capped at 50%
As the guy above said, it's more than likely that it just have a global cap, regardless of what kind of casting reduction it is.
As the guy above said, it's more than likely that it just have a global cap, regardless of what kind of casting reduction it is.
Its been documented for years its 80% now.
It used to be 50%... does no one check BG Wiki, I mean ffxiclopedia is so ridiculously outdated a school child could work out its useless to use it as gospel.
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Cerberus.Conagh said: »
Cerberus.Spirachub said: »
my song cast is at cap, and i have about 20% FC gear. so song spell casting time can't be capped at 50%
As the guy above said, it's more than likely that it just have a global cap, regardless of what kind of casting reduction it is.
As the guy above said, it's more than likely that it just have a global cap, regardless of what kind of casting reduction it is.
Its been documented for years its 80% now.
It used to be 50%... does no one check BG Wiki, I mean ffxiclopedia is so ridiculously outdated a school child could work out its useless to use it as gospel.
http://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Song_spellcasting_time
Both Wiki's have their use. Old wiki is still good for many things and while I always check BG first, I often have to go a bit further.
Seems like a lot of the usual editors of the various wikis have quit as well. New content is hard to find on them and I generally end up going diving through AH and BG forum threads looking for things.
Seems like a lot of the usual editors of the various wikis have quit as well. New content is hard to find on them and I generally end up going diving through AH and BG forum threads looking for things.
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So what does everyone use for a cure set for brd now?
Soooo... Song precast, *** Magian staves!
Just swapping Minstrel's for Weatherspoon in the OP set ItemSet 190786
and assuming perfect augments on both Gendewitha pieces, I end up at 84% (30 FC, 54 spellcasting time).
Swapping Swith+1 for Ogapepo+1 leaves us capped, and gives us a free 3% quick magic: ItemSet 330729
Other less optimal options would be to swap Prolix for Lebeche Ring, get 2% Quick Magic and still be 2% over cap, which allows for NQ Sha'ir and/or almost-perfect Gendewitha augments.
ETA: or Marduk+1 instead of the Manteel for inventory I guess
Sorry if I miscounted or overlooked gears or something.
Just swapping Minstrel's for Weatherspoon in the OP set ItemSet 190786
and assuming perfect augments on both Gendewitha pieces, I end up at 84% (30 FC, 54 spellcasting time).
Swapping Swith+1 for Ogapepo+1 leaves us capped, and gives us a free 3% quick magic: ItemSet 330729
Other less optimal options would be to swap Prolix for Lebeche Ring, get 2% Quick Magic and still be 2% over cap, which allows for NQ Sha'ir and/or almost-perfect Gendewitha augments.
ETA: or Marduk+1 instead of the Manteel for inventory I guess
Sorry if I miscounted or overlooked gears or something.
Do you Gearswap users precast songs with Impatiens?
I recently bought it again (sold my previous one eons ago) for other jobs and I've been wondering what to do.
It's technically possible, but if you get a packetloss (they're unavoidable, you can't control them and as rare as they are, they DO happen) you would end up singing with Impatiens.
Imagining that happening during a vital rotation in dangerous moments kinda pulled me off from the idea of using Impatiens while precasting.
What's the general consenus about that?
I recently bought it again (sold my previous one eons ago) for other jobs and I've been wondering what to do.
It's technically possible, but if you get a packetloss (they're unavoidable, you can't control them and as rare as they are, they DO happen) you would end up singing with Impatiens.
Imagining that happening during a vital rotation in dangerous moments kinda pulled me off from the idea of using Impatiens while precasting.
What's the general consenus about that?
I would say, don't bother with impatiens.
In dangerous rotation moments, you should be singing Under troubadour anyway.
In dangerous rotation moments, you should be singing Under troubadour anyway.
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Yeah that's kinda been my stance so far, reason why I never bothered with Impatiens before on BRD =/
Asura.Sechs said: »
Do you Gearswap users precast songs with Impatiens?
I recently bought it again (sold my previous one eons ago) for other jobs and I've been wondering what to do.
It's technically possible, but if you get a packetloss (they're unavoidable, you can't control them and as rare as they are, they DO happen) you would end up singing with Impatiens.
Imagining that happening during a vital rotation in dangerous moments kinda pulled me off from the idea of using Impatiens while precasting.
What's the general consenus about that?
I recently bought it again (sold my previous one eons ago) for other jobs and I've been wondering what to do.
It's technically possible, but if you get a packetloss (they're unavoidable, you can't control them and as rare as they are, they DO happen) you would end up singing with Impatiens.
Imagining that happening during a vital rotation in dangerous moments kinda pulled me off from the idea of using Impatiens while precasting.
What's the general consenus about that?
I don't know the details on packet structure, would have to ask Byrth or some other developer.
I've seen all sort of strange things happen with packets loss, so I just assumed this could happen.
I've seen all sort of strange things happen with packets loss, so I just assumed this could happen.
Etude adjustments seem meh. Even if it were +50 per stat i dont think it'd ever overtake marches or minuets unless you had a second bard or something. Int/mnd etudes could be useful for nukers or for rdms trying to land debuffs but the application for etudes are limited. Unless they allowed etuded to break the so g cap or something, they probably wont see much use even with non decaying attributes.
Maybe with a few idris buffs/debuffs, her herculean or the dex etude might have uses, but whens the last time any of us used a vit etude?
Maybe with a few idris buffs/debuffs, her herculean or the dex etude might have uses, but whens the last time any of us used a vit etude?
Asura.Highwynn said: »
Etude adjustments seem meh.
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Even if it were +50 per stat i dont think it'd ever overtake marches or minuets
It doesn't need to overtake anything, it will have the same role Etudes have today, i.e. fillers when you don't have anything else to sing. With these fixes you'd just be using the Tier2 version, which is better, instead of what you'd use currently (the silly Tier1).
There's hoping they will also improve the potency, but even without that it will still be a positive change compared to the current situation.
People have been asking to remove the decay over time aspect of T2 Etudes for ages.
Even if they don't depreciate, tier 2 etudes are really only useful if you have multiple buffers :/
Though sometimes i sing chr etudes on myself with af3 to improve my macc in order to land threnody or elegy on NMs in incursion
Though sometimes i sing chr etudes on myself with af3 to improve my macc in order to land threnody or elegy on NMs in incursion
Or you can read the last line of his post :)
:edit 'or edit your own' :)
:edit 'or edit your own' :)
Asura.Highwynn said: »
Even if they don't depreciate, tier 2 etudes are really only useful if you have multiple buffers :/
Though sometimes i sing chr etudes on myself with af3 to improve my macc in order to land threnody or elegy on NMs in incursion
Though sometimes i sing chr etudes on myself with af3 to improve my macc in order to land threnody or elegy on NMs in incursion
I remember a few times using CHR songs on myself to stick something, but when that happened it's usually because I was bored, doing easy content and pissed that a certain monster dared to resist my debuff! xD
It's clearly not something you're meant to do as a regular strategy >.>''
It's clearly not something you're meant to do as a regular strategy >.>''
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Honestly been farming 130MB for a few weeks and we usually are only able to bring one Geo, so we usually have him do -eva/-def. The pickups that I have been joining on Asura simply use a pld tank and RNGs if there's no sch available, because its suicide to melee MB without stunner. Therefore, most of my incursions have been 1GEO, PLD, and DDs. That being said, we don't get the luxury of -meva bubbles so i end up needing to etude myself and threnody to be able to elegy MB even with a top tier m.acc build :/
Without m.eva down from Geo, 130 gramsk is still damned resistant. My RDM has almost every available piece of m.acc gear except murgleis and yet gramsk resists 95% of all of my Frazzles and probably only land distract about 60%, not having a Geo makes him a chore to debuff :/
Without m.eva down from Geo, 130 gramsk is still damned resistant. My RDM has almost every available piece of m.acc gear except murgleis and yet gramsk resists 95% of all of my Frazzles and probably only land distract about 60%, not having a Geo makes him a chore to debuff :/
129 Incursion as BRD/WHM.
Valefor.Ophannus said: »
129 Incursion as BRD/WHM.
Does the TP Bonus +1000 from Magian Trials work in offhand? If it does, then subbing it would boost your Rudra tremendously. You'd gain TP a bit slower from the misses but your Rudras would be doing more than double at 1000TP.
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