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[Dev] Limbus/Einherjar Adjustments
 Valefor.Prothescar
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-12-09 04:12:17  
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
fly pad







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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-12-09 04:14:05  
You caught me!
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2012-12-09 04:26:46  
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I'd try to figure it out on my own if I had more than like 3 inventory spaces at any given moment

Panetiere

Do you have it?

I even gave up trying to decorate my mog house for the moment but I'm still sitting at maxed out safe/locker/storage. Tends to happen when you try to gear little things on every job you play and SE insists on continuing to add stupid sidegrade gear that's only macro'd in for one action.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-12-09 04:34:40  
You gave up on decorating your moghouse? Shame on *** you.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2012-12-09 04:36:26  
I'm trying to make space for it, I really am. :|
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-12-09 04:39:05  
It's like the one remaining aspect of FFXI that gives me joy.
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By Bismarck.Altar 2012-12-09 11:30:15  
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I'm not telling you peasants my super awesome harvesting secrets.

burdock root
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By Shiva.Paulu 2012-12-09 11:42:54  
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I even gave up trying to decorate my mog house for the moment but I'm still sitting at maxed out safe/locker/storage. Tends to happen when you try to gear little things on every job you play and SE insists on continuing to add stupid sidegrade gear that's only macro'd in for one action.
This.

All I have is a mannequin, Panetiere, crafting stall, and my Windurstian flag.
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By Valefor.Ivaan 2012-12-09 12:09:15  
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20 hour einherjar cooldown means say goodbye to neo salvage making Alexandrite cheaper.

Definately makes it easier to finish a mythic overall, though.


cant make 300k an odin pop either after this most likely lol
 
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By Asura.Kese 2012-12-09 14:38:45  
taking 120+ nyzul runs is a lie, ive been farming tokens with 2 friends, and we get anywhere from 4k-6k tokens a run starting at 81, and usually getting to like 92-96.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-12-09 14:41:16  
People don't seem to understand how little interest it takes to cause alexandrite prices to climb. You can have one new person enter the market and see a 50% increase in average costs.
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By Asura.Azriel 2012-12-09 14:46:22  
Yeah and that one new person sure is 24hrs online ready to buy and hunt all bazaars ... ohwait there are timezones and different play/afk shedules :P
I think saying ONE SINGLE person entring the market is harsh, didnt impact my market when i entered tho.


My 2cent.
 
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By Bahamut.Catlord 2012-12-09 14:56:28  
Nah minjo was correct. It only takes people knowing that 1 person is working on alex for a mythic seriously and they'll jump prices up. Otherwise alex stays in the same bazaars for the same prices day after day. That's how it was on fenrir and not so much different here on bahamut it seems. Also about nyzul tokens. floor 91-104 is about 6k tokens. x7 days = 42k a week. 150k tokens take 1.5 months.
 
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-12-09 15:19:54  
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
It's like the one remaining aspect of FFXI that gives me joy.

Mine has my goldsmithing ***in a corner (my stall and stuff), and the main area is a fight scene between my mannequins + prishe vs the AA's + behemoth and faffy lol. I love my little set up.
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By Sylph.Traxus 2012-12-09 16:27:12  
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You gave up on decorating your moghouse? Shame on *** you.

I finally had to store/mule my furniture this week to make room for haks after getting ebisu. :(

Sylph.Jada said: »
This does not happen on sylph.

On a side note, Do you have to unlock the weaponskill before starting a mythic? I wanna say no.

The price is definitely going up thou, albeit slowly. It wasn't long ago I had them rotting in bazaar at 14.5k, now they get bought out near instantly at 16.5k (standard seems to be 17?), people even travel to nashmau to get them from my bazaar when I'm fishing, lol.

I think the price is going to keep going up as people realize they can charge more. Not to mention lots of people seem to be starting up mythics these days, probably out of lack of anything else left to do.
 
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By Valefor.Philemon 2012-12-09 16:59:06  
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Asura.Kese said: »
taking 120+ nyzul runs is a lie, ive been farming tokens with 2 friends, and we get anywhere from 4k-6k tokens a run starting at 81, and usually getting to like 92-96.

It's not a lie, I forgot that you can enter with less people. I had this done a while ago when it was popular. Also, you're not starting from floor 1. You get less points starting from the bottom. So lets just say you got 4k points every run from 1-100 saving it at every 5 floors, you will obtain 80k points in 20 days. Which means it will take close to 40 days to obtain 150,000 points.

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People don't seem to understand how little interest it takes to cause alexandrite prices to climb. You can have one new person enter the market and see a 50% increase in average costs.

That's not entirely true. The cost will not jump from 20k to 30k because of 1 person. And you are only thinking of one side of the equation. More people are going to be obtaining Alex's as well.
Having made 2 mythics I can say that I definitely notice when there's another person buying. All it takes is one person cleaning out the 15k alex for people to price it at 17k. And then they buy out all the 17k alex and then the new price is 20k.

Also, if you're serious about tokens you would do old Nyzul and get at least 5k tokens per run. You need a runic key to start the quest so yes, you're starting on 91 or 96. And most people will already have a stock of tokens or ampoules just from doing regular endgame activities.
 
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2012-12-09 18:50:20  
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People don't seem to understand how little interest it takes to cause alexandrite prices to climb. You can have one new person enter the market and see a 50% increase in average costs.

Don't forget about the resellers, we've had a couple new ones pop up that add 500g-2k markup per piece which keeps prices up.

Marking up a stack of alex by 1k makes them 99k richer so i can see the appeal, but it also contributes to raising the price since other people look to other bazaars for pricing guidance.
I make it a point to never buy from resellers in the hope it keeps prices down, although I know someone else gives in and encourages them to keep sniping alexandrite that are 1-2k under their own selling price.

I'm very curious if the 'DC Trick' will work for neo salvage, or if they add some 'emergency teleport' if the party size drops under 3, like they do with Odin when you drop under 6 people.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-12-09 21:02:07  
You guys are talking about today's Akexandrite market, where there is very little natural supply and people will only farm it if it's comparable to their dynamis gil/hr. Of course prices don't drop under those conditions.
 
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-12-10 17:44:11  
Asura.Kese said: »
taking 120+ nyzul runs is a lie, ive been farming tokens with 2 friends, and we get anywhere from 4k-6k tokens a run starting at 81, and usually getting to like 92-96.


Why not just start at 96?
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2012-12-11 04:18:58  
Go study up on Nyzul and how tokens get rewarded then you can answer your own question.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-12-11 04:25:51  
There is no reason to not start at 96. The floor 1 afterwards acts as floor 101 as far as tokens rewarded.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2012-12-11 04:39:44  
Does it, really? I seem to recall getting more tokens the last time I did going from 90->~100 than I did 95->~05 the last time I did it. It's been a while since I've run Nyzul though.
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2012-12-11 04:40:57  
Last time I did old Nyzul for tokens was like... 6 months ago, but I remember getting less tokens starting at 96 presumably due to the low token rewards for floors 1-10. Usually started on 81 or 86 for token farming as well.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-12-11 05:19:25  
[22:27:51]’Floor 15 objective complete. Rune of Transfer activated.
[22:27:57]You obtain 7290 tokens!

Four person party gives 7290 for reaching floor 15 from floor 96 (without armband).

390 for 96-100, per floor reward increases by 10 every 5 floors.

390*5+400*5+410*5+420*5=8100

90% reward because four people.

8100*.9=7290
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