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 Sylph.Mirvana
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2012-10-26 19:56:28  
I'm just glad I'm only losing 1 gold astraria (2/25 atm). Will probably still try to do runs before this comes into play as I would still like to get Thaumas Feet snagged IMMEDIATELY!! Dey Soz Sexies! @o@
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2012-10-26 20:16:28  
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Now all the peasants will have NNI gear :(


well... at least you'd see less gimps by then :p


Right because no one with epic could possibly be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE..........
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2012-10-26 20:51:24  
Well looks like it'll be a bit more balanced now. These adjustments will make getting floor 80 not nearly as *random* (difficult isn't really applicable here). You'll still get screwed on the 70~80 just like many people were on 90~100, but that's old news. The removal of the long a$$ wait timers make order lamps less of a problem, though a five order will still kill your run if your not lucky. All in all a decent upgrade to make the gear from the event obtainable to those not using secret ninja magic or using friends with secret ninja magic.

Most of us who know about the ninja magic got 15/15 a long time ago. Sad part is this is how NNI SHOULD of been released.
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By Enuyasha 2012-10-26 20:55:03  
Sylph.Mirvana said: »
I'm just glad I'm only losing 1 gold astraria (2/25 atm). Will probably still try to do runs before this comes into play as I would still like to get Thaumas Feet snagged IMMEDIATELY!! Dey Soz Sexies! @o@

I would hoard my astraria and get a set immediately after the update :< but that'd be way too much work and i dont have a jesus SCH geared up.
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By Jassik 2012-10-26 23:03:42  
Nni should have been released without the lamp cooldowns, max number of lamps should be limitted and biased toward same tine and code. The maze walls should never have been updated the way they were, etc. But like everything se has done lately, it needed about 5 updates and exploitation of a single ja/spell to be reliably cleared and still heavily weighted toward dumb luck. So glad to be done with it.
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2012-10-27 13:15:11  
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Now all the peasants will have NNI gear :(
Given how many peasants bought wins/NNI gear from mercs using blinker gils, having NNI gear didnt have much prestige to it in the first place.
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2012-10-27 13:48:18  
What they should have do at start was :

1- remove completely order lamps floors

2- increase floor jumps to 11

The legit base players could have done it then.

Instead of that they decided to make this event relying exclusively on luck.
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By Sylph.Decimus 2012-10-27 13:56:58  
If you're still playing (paying) while not being able to complete worthwhile content then SE succeeded and the longer they can make you wait before reaching the breaking point the better off they are. What they should have done for their own purposes and what you want them to do for your purposes are two completely different things. Welcome to FFXI.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-10-27 14:07:11  
I feel like I woke up and posted a rather long post in this topic and now I can't find it.

I wonder if I said something that was somehow modworthy or if I dreamed that ._.
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By Sylph.Decimus 2012-10-27 14:14:52  
If they deleted it, it will look something like this - http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/30796/woe-h2h-vs-dblatt-ursa/2#1873647 - but it will still be there. You must be dreaming.
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By Siren.Fupafighters 2012-10-27 17:34:07  
Quetzalcoatl.Worlace said: »
Some of us have been 15/15 for months if you ain't by now then i don't know what to say.

That been said some nice adjustments yet some of you little muppets still complain.
Because no matter how hard you try, sometimes you just get players of the lacking skill in your groups....
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By Sylph.Etoilemourante 2012-10-27 17:44:35  
The cheaters ppl cant sell more the gear for high price :)
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-10-27 17:46:53  
what's stopping them
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By Sylph.Decimus 2012-10-27 17:57:23  
I think she's saying they won't be able to as easily without embrava. I think...
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-10-27 18:05:44  
Depends on what context. There'll be plenty of lazy bads who'll still be completely willing to fork over money for some astrariums I'm sure.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dova 2012-10-27 18:59:14  
I'm not sure why people keep saying to remove lamps. It's not like it hinders you that much. Was talking to random people about it one day and a much better thing would be after completing a lamp floor you were guaranteed a 7+ jump after.
People forget that just as much as a 5 lamp order floor hurts you, code right next to the rune helps you.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-10-27 19:05:08  
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I'm not sure why people keep saying to remove lamps. It's not like it hinders you that much. Was talking to random people about it one day and a much better thing would be after completing a lamp floor you were guaranteed a 7+ jump after.
People forget that just as much as a 5 lamp order floor hurts you, code right next to the rune helps you.

Yeah. I would rather there be biases and mappings though.

IE:

Single Enemy Floors jump you 1-4 floors (10% chance of occurring)
Ordered Lamps jump you 7-10 (5%)
Code lamps jump you 5-8 (5%)
Kill Family jumps you 4-7 (20%)
Everything has a 5% chance to jump 11
etc etc

Or something.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2012-10-27 19:10:15  
I don't think anyone has an issue with code and same time lamps. It's order that everyone wants to trash.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dova 2012-10-27 19:11:57  
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
Yeah. I would rather there be biases and mappings though.

IE:

Single Enemy Floors jump you 1-4 floors (10% chance of occurring)
Ordered Lamps jump you 7-10 (5%)
Code lamps jump you 5-8 (5%)
Kill Family jumps you 4-7 (20%)
Everything has a 5% chance to jump 11
etc etc

Or something.
Yea exactly! If they did something along these lines I'd let them take away free floors
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By Bismarck.Kelhor 2012-10-27 19:21:55  
Quetzalcoatl.Dova said: »
Yea exactly! If they did something along these lines I'd let them take away free floors

They can't take away something that doesn't exist.

On second thought, it's SE. They might find a way.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-10-27 19:38:25  
Bismarck.Kelhor said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Dova said: »
Yea exactly! If they did something along these lines I'd let them take away free floors

They can't take away something that doesn't exist.

On second thought, it's SE. They might find a way.

hahaha

"In addition to removing the 1% chance of a free floor, there is now a 10% chance of going backwards."
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By Chyula 2012-10-27 20:31:31  
LMAO, they give NNI a small boost and completely killed SCH strategy. hahaha no more regain with embrava.
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2012-10-27 21:11:10  
Dammit Xueye, DONT GIVE THEM IDEAS!!!!
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By Odin.Tsuneo 2012-10-27 21:12:39  
We got back to back free floors one run, and we still lost.
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By Chyula 2012-10-27 21:37:08  
1. making a 10% chance of a big jump to put you at floor 101.
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By Odin.Registry 2012-10-27 21:37:59  
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We got back to back free floors one run, and we still lost.

It always goes:

2
free floor
2
free floor
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stupid as ***weaponskills restricted, kill 5 puddings, oops the drk forgot a twilight scythe
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order lamps
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-10-27 21:54:35  
Wait, am I getting this right?

If I have 6 Gold Astraria now, I will have 1 post update, and I still need 4 more to get a piece of gear?

Damnit, SE!
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By Hyabusa 2012-10-27 22:31:21  
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Sylph.Mirvana said: »
I'm just glad I'm only losing 1 gold astraria (2/25 atm). Will probably still try to do runs before this comes into play as I would still like to get Thaumas Feet snagged IMMEDIATELY!! Dey Soz Sexies! @o@

I would hoard my astraria and get a set immediately after the update :< but that'd be way too much work and i dont have a jesus SCH geared up.

I think you're missing the point. Your astaria are going to be divided by five and then rounded down. If you're 1-4/25 you will have zero after the update. If you're at 24/25 you will have 4 after the update.
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2012-10-27 23:25:27  
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Enuyasha said: »

I think you're missing the point. Your astaria are going to be divided by five and then rounded down. If you're 1-4/25 you will have zero after the update. If you're at 24/25 you will have 4 after the update.

Siren.Kalilla said: »

Unless you already have 0 golds, noone is getting reset to 0.
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