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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-04-29 11:27:17

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Asura.Sechs said: »

Which slip can the new "Arc Shield" be stored in?

I don't think it can yet, they always do it assbackwards and don't allow it to be stored until next month.

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By Asura.Sechs 2022-04-29 13:03:03

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By Asura.Topace 2022-04-30 00:11:28

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I know Elemental MAB is counted separately. But does anyone know how much MAB would equal 1 Elemental MAB?

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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-04-30 07:45:30

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Asura.Topace said: »

I know Elemental MAB is counted separately. But does anyone know how much MAB would equal 1 Elemental MAB?

Depends how much you have of each, because they are seperate multipliers in the same equation. You can't put them in terms of each other without leaving unknowns in the equation or getting exact values for everything you already have.

If you have 200 MAB and 0 elemental MAB, 1 elemental MAB equals 3 MAB. If you have 400 MAB and 0 elemental MAB, 1 elemental MAB equals 5 MAB.

Elemental MAB is almost always worth using, though.

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By Asura.Sechs 2022-04-30 14:35:53

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I wonder... is "Dho Gates" a mistranslation? Or rather a typo during westernization of the JP original name for the zone?

We have:
Woh Gates
Sih Gates
Moh Gates
and then
Dho Gates.

See the position of the "h"? It's at the end for 3 out of 4 zones.
This leads me to believe it should've been "Doh Gates" but because of an error/typo it came out as "Dho Gates".

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By Bismarck.Ringoko 2022-04-30 15:03:15

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Asura.Sechs said: »

I wonder... is "Dho Gates" a mistranslation? Or rather a typo during westernization of the JP original name for the zone?

We have:
Woh Gates
Sih Gates
Moh Gates
and then
Dho Gates.

See the position of the "h"? It's at the end for 3 out of 4 zones.
This leads me to believe it should've been "Doh Gates" but because of an error/typo it came out as "Dho Gates".

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By Asura.Geriond 2022-04-30 15:11:26

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Asura.Sechs said: »

I wonder... is "Dho Gates" a mistranslation? Or rather a typo during westernization of the JP original name for the zone?

We have:
Woh Gates
Sih Gates
Moh Gates
and then
Dho Gates.

See the position of the "h"? It's at the end for 3 out of 4 zones.
This leads me to believe it should've been "Doh Gates" but because of an error/typo it came out as "Dho Gates".

It actually used to be listed as Doh gates on the in-game map, but SE changed it to match the other instances of Dho gates after a while.

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By Asura.Sechs 2022-04-30 16:12:04

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Surprised they fixed the Doh into Dho rather than fixing Dho into Doh.
Oh well.
Not that stuff like this has any sort of relevance but still it pinched my curiosity lol.

Are there official names for these 4 zones in japanese?

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By ryukin182 2022-05-01 19:17:02

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Im not sure if i ask here or blm place but here goes, when you do magic bursts, do you do more dmg on the burst the higher the sc is? Such as will you do more dmg (ongo specifically in my case) if i do a 5 step sc with sch as opposed to a 2 step darkness? I dont play mages and never have so im starting to learn now

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By ryukin182 2022-05-01 20:08:52

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ok so doing 10k on only darkness sc is why my dmg is so low, this helps a lot ty

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By Ragnarok.Martel 2022-05-03 02:38:34

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Following up on my last Aquaveil test post. Also linking Alseyn's post which brought the JP wiki info to us initially.

I retested using blue magic, so each cast actually has closure in the log.

PLD/BLU. 194 Blue magic skill.
I forgot to equip a non-ilvl wep, but it didn't seem to matter as everything landed right as expected anyway.
Test Mob: Lvl 138 Apex Helm Elytra. PLD mob so no DA.
Aquaveil caster: WHM/SCH.

Test #1: 500+ skill(537), no Aquaveil+

3 hits clearly during a cast, and Aquaveil wore on the third. Confirming the 3 interrupt Guards at 500+ skill.

Logger was being weird and duplicating every hit from the mob a second later so the logs look kinda odd. But the screenshot verifies that these were all single hits, and again, PLD mob. Doesn't have DA.
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[01:27:15]start 500 skill test
[01:27:17]The Apex・Helm・Elytra misses Martel.
[01:27:18]The Apex Helm Elytra misses Martel.
[01:27:19]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:27:19]Monberaux uses Mix: Dark Potion.The Apex Helm Elytra takes 666 points of damage.
[01:27:21]Arduwyn uses Accession.
[01:27:21]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 47 points of damage.
[01:27:22]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 47 points of damage.
[01:27:22]Arduwyn starts casting Aquaveil on Arduwyn.
[01:27:23]Arduwyn casts Aquaveil.Arduwyn gains the effect of Aquaveil.
[01:27:23]Monberaux gains the effect of Aquaveil.
[01:27:23]Sylvie gains the effect of Aquaveil.
[01:27:23]Martel gains the effect of Aquaveil.
[01:27:26]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 58 points of damage.
[01:27:26]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:27:26]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 58 points of damage.
[01:27:30]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 41 points of damage.
[01:27:30]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 41 points of damage.
[01:27:33]Martel starts casting Geist Wall on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:27:33]The Apex・Helm・Elytra scores a critical hit!Martel takes 75 points of damage.
[01:27:34]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:27:34]The Apex Helm Elytra scores a critical hit!Martel takes 75 points of damage.
[01:27:35]Martel casts Geist Wall.The Apex・Helm・Elytra resists the spell.
[01:27:37]The Apex・Helm・Elytra misses Martel.
[01:27:38]The Apex Helm Elytra misses Martel.
[01:27:40]Martel starts casting Soporific on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:27:41]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:27:42]The Apex・Helm・Elytra misses Martel.
[01:27:42]The Apex Helm Elytra misses Martel.
[01:27:43]Martel casts Soporific.The Apex・Helm・Elytra resists the spell.
[01:27:46]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 23 points of damage.
[01:27:46]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 23 points of damage.
[01:27:47]Martel starts casting Geist Wall on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:27:48]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:27:49]Martel casts Geist Wall.The Apex・Helm・Elytra resists the spell.
[01:27:50]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 28 points of damage.
[01:27:50]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 28 points of damage.
[01:27:54]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 21 points of damage.
[01:27:54]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 21 points of damage.
[01:27:55]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:27:57]Martel starts casting Sheep Song on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:27:58]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 25 points of damage.
[01:27:59]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 25 points of damage.
[01:28:00]Martel casts Sheep Song.The Apex・Helm・Elytra resists the spell.
[01:28:02]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 27 points of damage.
[01:28:02]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:28:02]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 27 points of damage.
[01:28:05]Martel starts casting Geist Wall on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:28:06]Martel's Aquaveil effect wears off.
[01:28:06]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 57 points of damage.
[01:28:06]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 57 points of damage.
[01:28:08]Martel casts Geist Wall.The Apex・Helm・Elytra resists the spell.
[01:28:10]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:28:10]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 42 points of damage.
[01:28:10]The Apex・Helm・Elytra readies Power Attack.
[01:28:10]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 42 points of damage.
[01:28:11]The Apex・Helm・Elytra uses Power Attack.Martel takes 66 points of damage.
[01:28:13]The Apex Helm Elytra uses Power Attack.Martel takes 66 points of damage.
[01:28:17]Monberaux readies Mix: Samson's Strength.
[01:28:17]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:28:17]Monberaux uses Mix: Samson's Strength.All of Monberaux's status parameters are boosted.
[01:28:17]All of Sylvie's status parameters are boosted.
[01:28:17]All of Arduwyn's status parameters are boosted.
[01:28:17]All of Martel's status parameters are boosted.
[01:28:17]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 32 points of damage.
[01:28:18]Martel's Defense Boost effect wears off.
[01:28:18]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 32 points of damage.
[01:28:21]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 65 points of damage.
[01:28:21]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 65 points of damage.
[01:28:22]start 500 skill test, complete. 3 IG[01:27:15]start 500 skill test
[01:27:17]The Apex・Helm・Elytra misses Martel.
[01:27:18]The Apex Helm Elytra misses Martel.
[01:27:19]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:27:19]Monberaux uses Mix: Dark Potion.The Apex Helm Elytra takes 666 points of damage.
[01:27:21]Arduwyn uses Accession.
[01:27:21]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 47 points of damage.
[01:27:22]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 47 points of damage.
[01:27:22]Arduwyn starts casting Aquaveil on Arduwyn.
[01:27:23]Arduwyn casts Aquaveil.Arduwyn gains the effect of Aquaveil.
[01:27:23]Monberaux gains the effect of Aquaveil.
[01:27:23]Sylvie gains the effect of Aquaveil.
[01:27:23]Martel gains the effect of Aquaveil.
[01:27:26]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 58 points of damage.
[01:27:26]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:27:26]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 58 points of damage.
[01:27:30]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 41 points of damage.
[01:27:30]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 41 points of damage.
[01:27:33]Martel starts casting Geist Wall on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:27:33]The Apex・Helm・Elytra scores a critical hit!Martel takes 75 points of damage.
[01:27:34]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:27:34]The Apex Helm Elytra scores a critical hit!Martel takes 75 points of damage.
[01:27:35]Martel casts Geist Wall.The Apex・Helm・Elytra resists the spell.
[01:27:37]The Apex・Helm・Elytra misses Martel.
[01:27:38]The Apex Helm Elytra misses Martel.
[01:27:40]Martel starts casting Soporific on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:27:41]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:27:42]The Apex・Helm・Elytra misses Martel.
[01:27:42]The Apex Helm Elytra misses Martel.
[01:27:43]Martel casts Soporific.The Apex・Helm・Elytra resists the spell.
[01:27:46]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 23 points of damage.
[01:27:46]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 23 points of damage.
[01:27:47]Martel starts casting Geist Wall on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:27:48]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:27:49]Martel casts Geist Wall.The Apex・Helm・Elytra resists the spell.
[01:27:50]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 28 points of damage.
[01:27:50]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 28 points of damage.
[01:27:54]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 21 points of damage.
[01:27:54]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 21 points of damage.
[01:27:55]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:27:57]Martel starts casting Sheep Song on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:27:58]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 25 points of damage.
[01:27:59]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 25 points of damage.
[01:28:00]Martel casts Sheep Song.The Apex・Helm・Elytra resists the spell.
[01:28:02]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 27 points of damage.
[01:28:02]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:28:02]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 27 points of damage.
[01:28:05]Martel starts casting Geist Wall on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:28:06]Martel's Aquaveil effect wears off.
[01:28:06]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 57 points of damage.
[01:28:06]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 57 points of damage.
[01:28:08]Martel casts Geist Wall.The Apex・Helm・Elytra resists the spell.

Next up, the JP wiki info states that Accession'd Aquaveil uses the caster's Aquaveil+ stat, rather than the recipient's, like Stoneskin and Phalanx. Testing.

Had to edit multiple screenshots together cause the log on this one was too long.

In retrospect, I really shouldn't have used all my Aquaveil+ gear to test this. It made the test entirely too long. But it does show a great difference between the two tests. To a degree that's hard to wave away claiming a hit or two just happened to not be a interrupt.

Logs. Again, there was some weirdness in the logs, and it was making it hard to count the interrupts here so these logs ave been trimmed. I've also marked each line where as interrupt guard should have been used.

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[01:30:02]Start Aquaveil+4 test, 500+ skill.
[01:30:07]Arduwyn uses Accession.
[01:30:08]Arduwyn starts casting Aquaveil on Arduwyn.
[01:30:09]Arduwyn casts Aquaveil.Arduwyn gains the effect of Aquaveil.
[01:30:09]Monberaux gains the effect of Aquaveil.
[01:30:09]Sylvie gains the effect of Aquaveil.
[01:30:09]Martel gains the effect of Aquaveil.
[01:30:13]Martel starts casting Geist Wall on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:30:15]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 64 points of damage. [IG #1]
[01:30:16]Martel casts Geist Wall.The Apex・Helm・Elytra resists the spell.
[01:30:18]Martel's Magic Def. Boost effect wears off.
[01:30:18]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 35 points of damage.
[01:30:18](Martel) 1
[01:30:19]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 35 points of damage.
[01:30:20]Monberaux readies Mix: Dark Potion.
[01:30:20]Monberaux uses Mix: Dark Potion.The Apex・Helm・Elytra takes 666 points of damage.
[01:30:20]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:30:22]Martel starts casting Soporific on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:30:23]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 62 points of damage. [IG #2]
[01:30:24]Monberaux uses Mix: Dark Potion.The Apex Helm Elytra takes 666 points of damage.
[01:30:25]Martel casts Soporific.The Apex・Helm・Elytra resists the spell.
[01:30:26](Martel) 2
[01:30:27]The Apex・Helm・Elytra scores a critical hit!Martel takes 67 points of damage.
[01:30:27]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:30:27]The Apex Helm Elytra scores a critical hit!Martel takes 67 points of damage.
[01:30:30]Martel starts casting Sheep Song on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:30:31]The Apex Helm Elytra misses Martel.
[01:30:31]Martel's Regen effect wears off.
[01:30:33]Martel casts Sheep Song.The Apex・Helm・Elytra resists the spell.
[01:30:34]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:30:35]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 29 points of damage.
[01:30:35]The Apex・Helm・Elytra readies Rhino Attack.
[01:30:35]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 29 points of damage.
[01:30:36]The Apex・Helm・Elytra uses Rhino Attack, but misses Martel.
[01:30:39]The Apex Helm Elytra uses Rhino Attack, but misses Martel.
[01:30:46]Martel starts casting Geist Wall on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:30:46]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 41 points of damage. [IG #3]
[01:30:48]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:30:48]Martel casts Geist Wall.The Apex・Helm・Elytra resists the spell.
[01:30:50]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 52 points of damage.
[01:30:50](Martel) 3
[01:30:51]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 52 points of damage.
[01:30:54]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 45 points of damage.
[01:30:55]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 45 points of damage.
[01:30:56]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:30:57]Martel's Defense Boost effect wears off.
[01:30:57]Martel starts casting Soporific on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:30:59]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 72 points of damage. [IG #4]
[01:31:00]Martel casts Soporific.The Apex・Helm・Elytra resists the spell.
[01:31:01](Martel) 4
[01:31:02]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 57 points of damage.
[01:31:03]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 57 points of damage.
[01:31:03]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:31:06]Martel starts casting Geist Wall on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:31:07]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 72 points of damage. [IG #5]
[01:31:08]Martel's Geist Wall has no effect on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:31:09](Martel) 5
[01:31:10]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 49 points of damage.
[01:31:11]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:31:11]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 49 points of damage.
[01:31:13]Martel starts casting Sheep Song on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:31:15]The Apex Helm Elytra misses Martel.
[01:31:16]Martel casts Sheep Song.The Apex・Helm・Elytra resists the spell.
[01:31:18]Unable to see the Apex Helm Elytra.
[01:31:19]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 46 points of damage.
[01:31:21]Monberaux readies Mix: Samson's Strength.
[01:31:21]Monberaux uses Mix: Samson's Strength.All of Monberaux's status parameters are boosted.
[01:31:21]All of Sylvie's status parameters are boosted.
[01:31:21]All of Arduwyn's status parameters are boosted.
[01:31:21]All of Martel's status parameters are boosted.
[01:31:21]Martel starts casting Geist Wall on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:31:23]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 51 points of damage. [IG #6]
[01:31:24]Martel casts Geist Wall.The Apex・Helm・Elytra resists the spell.
[01:31:25](Martel) 6
[01:31:27]The Apex・Helm・Elytra hits Martel for 39 points of damage.
[01:31:27]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 39 points of damage.
[01:31:30]Martel starts casting Soporific on the Apex・Helm・Elytra.
[01:31:31]Martel's Aquaveil effect wears off.
[01:31:31]The Apex Helm Elytra hits Martel for 56 points of damage. [IG #7]
[01:31:33]Martel casts Soporific.The Apex・Helm・Elytra resists the spell.
[01:31:53]complete

TLDR. 500+ skill Aquaveil yields 3 interrupt guards. Accession'd Aquaveil uses the Caster's Aquaveil+ rather than the recipient's. So Aquaveil+ gear is useful for AoE'ing Aquaveil.

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By Asura.Sechs 2022-05-03 03:14:11

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We need to add these info to BG-wiki!
Thanks Martel for testing it.

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By Ragnarok.Martel 2022-05-03 12:17:39

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I updated the aquaveil page and added references.

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By Asura.Sechs 2022-05-03 14:42:29

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You are pure bliss to this community Martel <3

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By Asura.Alseyn 2022-05-03 17:28:42

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Ragnarok.Martel said: »

I updated the aquaveil page and added references.

Thank you for testing this and updating the wiki! I hope people can make good use of this information now that we better understand how Aquaveil works.

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By Cerberus.Echohawk 2022-05-04 21:51:55

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IGDC said: »

XIView for buffs, PartyBuffs for ... well... party buffs.

So dumb question . . .
I got XIVIew and it seems to work. But for party buffs to work I have to download the icons in the icons folder, which makes sense. But how do I download these in bulk? There's no way I should need to do this one at a time . . . right?

Update: got it

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By Asura.Aldolol 2022-05-09 07:45:21

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Can anyone explain to me what i am doing wrong with my Vagary pops to not be able to spawn Pluoton and Perf in the same run?

I do the following route

Previous run kill Putraxia
New runs do Brash Gate and Palloritus to get their ki
Trade in for Ashen Wings, this it the point i get stuck, i've seen runs that seem to have the KI from killing Perf before killing Perf but this doesn't happen to me? I thought keeping the KI from the week before would work but that didn't seem to work either. So a bit lost, it's not the end of the world just means 4 befouled waters instead of 3?

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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-05-10 01:13:41

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Asura.Sechs said: »

Which slip can the new "Arc Shield" be stored in?

Storage Slip 22

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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-05-13 10:49:25

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Different colors. You need to go to bastok and start indigo, and go to windurst and start jade.

When you finish Crimson IV Jade IV and Indigo IV those colors are done and you start White I

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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-05-13 12:08:03

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The Officer, not refiner

You click start or participate or whatever the option is

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By Kasaioni 2022-05-14 05:16:06

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So I'm trying to remember if I started Voracious Resurgence already or not.

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By Asura.Ccl 2022-05-15 08:24:20

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best way to farm escha bead now ?

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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-05-15 09:18:04

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Asura.Ccl said: »

best way to farm escha bead now ?

depends on resources, with the domain invasion blessings always active you get 180-191 per kill for t3 or helm, so demolishing T3s can get pretty good numbers (zitah are weaker, but if party is very strong you can go to reisenjima and spam neak to be able to utilize 2 ???s at #9 and not wait on respawns)

a strong and well coordinated group can break 10k beads/hour doing neak

doing domain invasion with enough people present to cut spawn times and wearing critrate gear to cap your result maxes around 5-6k/hr

obviously as the group gets weaker, output of t3s will drop while output of domain invasion won't drop as quickly, soloer also can't hold multiple triggers so that will hurt time on t3s

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By Starbucks 2022-05-15 09:21:35

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Did M levels really make anything significantly easier than before, or barely change anything? Tumult with SAM? HELMs or Omen boss soloing? Has anything changed significantly?

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By Asura.Geriond 2022-05-15 09:30:25

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For some of the jobs, the new bonuses from subs are enough to change playstyle, especially /drg getting Super Jump, /sch getting faster/more strategems and Stona, and /whm getting Curaga III. When in a fight that calls for them, it opens up entirely new options.

As for the stats, I don't know about significantly easier, but it's noticeable in some areas. Going from 0 to 30 ML is a difference of about 240 max HP, and on my V20 Ongo win the the ML30 tank got to about 150 HP left at one point, meaning he'd have died without the extra HP.

The ~50 accuracy also helps you need less accuracy investment on the likes of Xevioso and Bumba (if going without madrigal), and 30 INT is pretty significant on Ongo since its INT is so high and the time limit is strict. It can also be enough to let you offhand a TP bonus weapon when you couldn't normally. With ML30, I can use meat on Sheol C floor 4 even without madrigal or swapping in accuracy, for example.

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By Starbucks 2022-05-15 09:32:32

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What do you get stat wise? Like STR? The HP would be nice.

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